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Martin Place 70 Years On:  Have We Got World War II Down Pat Now?

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by Mary W Maxwell

A friend of mine has just sent me this photo, dated August 15, 1945, in Martin Place, Sydney, with colorisation added by Benjamin Thomas.  Do you recognize any rellies?  If they were age 25 that day they are 95 now!

That was the good war when we all knew who the baddies were (oh, really?) and we all knew what our troops were doing (oh, really?) and we all know who won the war (oh, really?).

Today there are a few major conspiracy theories of WWII but I won’t cover them here. Instead I will offer, as one-girl’s-experience, three of the bits and pieces that came my way over the years, raising questions as to the Official Story.

  1. Katyn

In the 1980s, when I was a politics student at Adelaide, some Polish friends of mine egged me on to read about “Katyn’, pronounced K’teen. Many Polish military officers (the official count of exhumed bodies: in the thousands) were murdered in 1940, and buried in a forest: The Katyn massacre. I learned that the US position on this was that “the killers were the Krauts, not the Ruski’s.” (I am recalling the lingo used.)

Some Polish Americans tried to complain about the US position (well, you would, wouldn’t you), but not until “glastnost bigtime” was it admitted that the Germans had not done the massacre. On April 13, 1990, Gorbachev’s regime expressed “profound regret.”

I don’t say this event is enough to throw out the standard story of who the WWII’s bad guys were – say, Hitler and Hirohito — but it makes ya wunda why the US did not talk about Soviet participation in Katyn (which FDR was definitely aware of). Why did the Yanks want to protect the Commies?

Note: you can see, in National Archives file of US, at Identifier number 583834, that a House of Representatives committee “heard 81 witnesses, examined 183 exhibits, and took more than 100 depositions” regarding Katyn. This was the Madden Committee. It proposed to put the matter of Soviet guilt before the International Court of Justice. Bit of a joke there?

  1. On the original Pearl Harbor being “like a Pearl Harbor” (if you know what I mean)

In the 1990s, two separate researchers proved that FDR and Churchill were aware of the impending Japanese attack on the American fleet in Hawaii (in which 2,400 died) but bit their tongue. One writer was Robert Stinnett who used military intercepts to prove the point.

His book, Day of Deceit, was published by Simon & Schuster (of all people) in 1990. I have just now glanced at the 211 Amazon reviews it received; most are extremely favorable. I’ll quote the headings of four positives:

“Compelling evidence and very few flaws.” “Excellent but not for the uninitiated.” “We’ve been duped!” “The Ugly Truth about FDR and Pearl Harbor.”

and four nego’s: “Conspiracies are fun but this one’s fake.” “The only deceit here is that of the author.” “More right-wing Roosevelt bashing?” and “Does Not Quite Rise to a High Enough Level of Proof for My Taste.”

The other Pearl Harbor revisionist book I read, in the late 1990s (can’t recall title, I think the author’s surname is Young) is also well documented, this time using declassified diplomatic cables. When I showed it to a friend back then, he went completely ballistic on me. Blaming anyone other than “the Japs” is simply unacceptable in the US.

Anyway, in the post-2001 years, when I thumbed through those two books again, I noticed that both authors had ended with the theme “In any case, the president knew what he had to do.” Apparently they think the public is stupid and so a leader must deceive the public to get the right result for the public!

That quiet message from the two authors gives their work extra credence, IMHO. I surmise their publication was “assisted,” and that it is meant to keep the story, even the revisionist story, rather polite. Don’t upset the troops.

  1. Germany Getting Oil Supplies from Rockefeller

When the US is at war with Germany, you’d have to expect that US businesses would be prevented from helping Germany. (Of course they are ‘prevented’ by Article 3, section 3, of the US Constitution which makes it a crime of treason to give aid and comfort to the enemy.)

Naturally American boys in uniform, and their distraught wives back home would have been appalled to think Standard Oil helped Germans convert coal to synthetic gasoline, and furnished oil to the enemy, but there you are. It happened. It’s not in dispute.

So What?

As a layperson I do not really know how to put the above tidbits together: Katyn, Pearl Harbor, Standard Oil. What does it all mean? What did it mean in February 1945 that the Allied leaders at Yalta handed most of Eastern Europe to the cruel Stalin regime?

What did it mean on February 24, 2003 that John Negroponte could speak at the UN on behalf of America’s proposed invasion of Iraq, saying:

“Under the circumstances and given Iraq’s continued disregard for its obligations [to disarm], we fully support the draft resolution …. We look forward to working with Council colleagues towards the prompt adoption …. Iraq itself must bear the consequences of its continued disregard for the Council’s decisions.”

What does it mean that in the 70th anniversary of the Katyn massacre, in 2010, somebody shot down the plane in which the Polish president and many other leaders were travelling to the memorial ceremony?  And that such a strange plane crash was accepted as an accident?

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Personally I subscribe to some of the major conspiracies about a World Government, but even if I did not (and even before I ever heard of them), the head-scratching items listed above were enough to tell me that all was not according to Hoyle.

Somehow I feel we should apologize to every soldier of the two world wars, on every side. It’s too late now to help them but we don’t really have to get “talked into” the next war based on unproven arguments, do we?

— Mary W Maxwell does her head scratching in Adelaide and would like to hear your similar stories. Please contact her at ProsecutionForTreason.com. Before it’s too late?

 

POSTSCRIPT. There is a marvelous book of “Letters to the Editor” written in the war and postwar period 1941-1965, by Professor App, Head of the English department at University of Scranton, PA. I quote:

To the Editor of the Philadelphia Inquirer:

In your editorial “Keep the Nazi Hunt Going,” you urge the West German Parliament to extend the statute of limitations on trying Nazi murderers for 10 more years”… Would it not be more proper to urge the Reds to make a start on prosecuting their own war criminals?

   …. Who has called for the prosecution of the Russians who murdered 11, 000 Polish officers at Katyn (and at Nuremberg tried to blame the Nazis for it!)?

When will those Czechs be prosecuted who expelled and robbed 3,000,000 Sudetans and murdered some 250,000 of them? [or] Allied airmen who, after razing German cities, went on to snipe to death fleeing German women and children (as at Dresden)?

[What of] the Israeli statesmen, who with those of France and Britain, committed the act of aggression against Egypt in 1956, every bit as criminal as Hitler’s attack on Poland in 1939?

Yours truly, Austin J App, PhD      January 23, 1965

 

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13 COMMENTS

  1. Dalia, good post, there is obviously a lot more shockers that one could ad but just as obvious is it would turn into just another depressing but disturbingly awakening book that would be difficult to find a powerhouse publisher! That typed, i now see WW11 as a prelude, a warm up, a BLOODY PICNIC with regards to whats formulating on this beautiful planet. There is acceleration now, that feels like panic from the money changers, and that may be the clue to putting the ship back on a sane course. If cooler heads prevail we stand half a chance but it would also require a major expose on the stolen sovereignty through the corporate name and all that it entails including all corporate gov’s etc etc.
    Thanks for the article, just another reminder, and by the way is there something symbolic to secret societies regarding “Martin Place”?

      • Dear Rick, Many ideas blooming in your comment!
        Re cooler heads prevailing, that would have to be the cool head of a domestic leader, wouldn’t it? There would never be (I say CAN never be) a caring world leader. We are built to live in tribes. Altruism has to have an emotional connection.

        As for the “stolen sovereignty” isn’t it more like “yielded sovereignty”? I guess there are a few ethnicities that act like they will fight to the death (Kurds take the cake), but Aussies do not seem to be able to react. I did not see much anger about the TPP.
        As of yesterday’s report, Tony Abbott has supposedly rejected the TPP. I hope that is true, but where was his larynx during Gumshoe’s yelling about it. Is it even believable that he has opposed it all along?

        Come on, Tony, all you need to do to spark up some sovereignty-lovin’ is to say “We’re not having this!!!” “Economy manipulators out!” “Pox on NATO” “Red center groovin’!” Love iz all ya need.

        (or something like that).

        • “I did not see much anger about the TPP.”

          Nor reportage, analysis or even awareness let alone understanding. I think the conspicuous lack of the first two led to the last two. Now maybe if the TPP had a big bottom and was credited with “breaking the Internet” for about five minutes more may have noticed.

  2. It’s interesting that the tanks that launched the initial attack on Poland apparently had ‘White Crosses’ on their turrets. Just goes to show you can’t trust anyone, especially the illuminati’s little piggy bank, even if it is or was supposed to be neutral. Switzerland is shaped like a pig and Davos is where the eye is. Highest town in Europe and all seeing? Just a thought.

  3. Conspiracy Café just posted this video.
    ‘Barry McGuire – On The Eve Of Destruction – You Tube’
    Seems pretty apt for our times. Instant Hit 1965. 50 y’rs ago.

  4. A reader phoned me so he could tell his WWII story. He asked me to write it as a Comment since he is too old to type. I said I would do so. However, I tried putting it together and find that I can’t do it, so apologies to that reader. (He wanted me to describe Churchill’s betrayal of Oz re the Fall of Singapore. Perhaps there is good evidence for it – he mentioned a BBC documentary. But I can’t publish it over my name if I don’t sufficiently “own” the material.)

    I tried one googlization and came up with an October 2010 article in Quadrant by Nigel Davies entitled “The Great Myth of Britain’s Great Betrayal.” Here’s an interesting quote:

    “Meaher sees the expediency of Australia’s political elites as the real betrayal. Whereas Australia had compulsory national service, and a powerful and expanding fleet before the Great War, the entire interwar period saw one defence cutback after another. All parties acquiesced, and he notes that “conservative” governments…constantly referred to the Singapore strategy as if it absolved them from the need for greater local expenditure.”

    I don’t mean that to be a put-down of my elderly caller. Would someone else please provide any insight re Singapore in the Forties?

    • Another man sent me a Pearl Harbor comment below. I am not sure if he wants his name used so I have made up the name RRRR and later, if he feels like it, he can come forward to identify himself.

      G’day Mary,
      Regards Pearl Harbour, my old man was the CO of a Squadron stationed at Kota Bharu in Malaysia in WW2, it is the family’s understanding that aircraft from that squadron while on patrol sighted the Japanese fleet heading to Hawaii, on notifying the Poms who were in Singapore at the time they were instructed to leave the fleet alone.

      The yanks had full knowledge the attack was to take place and consequently had moved their more modern vessels out of the harbour leaving the destruction of the rest to be the catalyst to get the dumbed down “exceptional” people hyped up to fall in line with the military industrial complex and banksters and go to war….

      It was the Dutch who shopped the old man and members of his squadron who were retreating as a consequence of the progress of the Japs at the time.

      Some relevant diaries are in the war museum in Canberra with a few pages redacted as some of the accounts don’t reflect well with some of TPTB’s actions/decisions.

      Cheers
      RRRRRRR

  5. Whether this fits the topic I’m not sure, but during our struggle for a foreign ownership register ( Launceston based) we came to know the airstrip at Merredin in WA was sold to China for the princely sum of one dollar I believe, because they needed somewhere to train their pilots. She’ll be right mate, no sweat.

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