Herald Sun (28/4/2016)
Today, somber services were held in memory of the victims of the massacre and their grieving families. That is as it should be. But there have been complaints that the mainstream media — specifically Channel 7 — have focused too much attention on Martin Bryant.
This morning, I decided to glance through Andrew MacGregor’s DVD Deceit and Deception. It contains an official transcript of the several phone conversations between the police negotiator Sgt Terry McCarthy and Martin Bryant.
Martin was inside Seascape cottage; McCarthy was in a police office in Hobart. The calls went on intermittently from 6pm to 10pm. It’s hard to know if Bryant was in some way play-acting, but the discussion is very convoluted and rambling. Had it been a script, I think Bryant would have talked about the killings at Port Arthur. But he seems completely ignorant of what went down that day.
The whole discussion is so “out there,” and so bizarre. Bryant admits to kidnapped a man and to having a grudge against the Martins (David and Sally Martin, the owners of Seascape which was operated as a B&B). He voices hatred for “the Jews” who, he says, mistreated him in Miami. But he says he feels like he is on “a Hawaiian holiday”, and is really looking forward to his ‘promised’ helicopter ride.
I offer this excerpt to Gumshoe readers. You can find more here:
On hostage participation:
McCarthy: Now you were talking just a little bit about the um Rick having come from
Fortescue Bay. Can you just enlighten me as to what happened there?
Jamie: Yeah yeah, I got him and managed to get him his wife she he wanted to participate um in the kidnapping in instead of his wife, I thought alright quick
Jamie: get in get into the car and I’ve got him as a hostage.
On everyone is okay:
McCarthy: I want to assure myself that everybody in there is okay. Are they all okay at the moment?
Jamie: Yeah there all well I’ve been giving them a cuppa tea and
McCarthy: You you gave them a cup of tea? Where are they at the moment?
Jamie: Inaudible… orange juice. I can’t tell you that inaudible
McCarthy: Well okay, are they they’re okay I take it
Jamie: They’re okay…
McCarthy: Okay, and there’s nobody hurt at this stage?
Jamie: Um none at all, no.
Jamie: Um I can’t tell that you you’ll get all that information not um um you’ll in the helicopter.
McCarthy: Well right.
Jamie: But I’ve got your number here and I’ll phone you back in an hour.
McCarthy: Well okay before you do that before you do that can you tell me what you’re going to do with this helicopter? Now I know you want to go to ah
Jamie: Hobart airport
McCarthy: Hobart airport, right
Jamie: then to Adelaide.
McCarthy: Then to Adelaide now do you realise just how difficult that is to organise?
Jamie: Oh do your best for me.
McCarthy: Well I don’t think anybody’s going to lash out with you if you’ve got all those guns you’ve got.
Jamie: W er, they’re not all mine a lot of them I found them upstairs here so
Jamie: I’ve got some explosives um it’s actually not nitroglycerine um what’s that other one round plastic um gelignite is it? With wicks on it that floats
McCarthy: Where did you, can I ask you where you got that from Jamie?
Jamie: Under the bed upstairs here um
McCarthy: Well you didn’t actually have it before?
Jamie: No. w I’ve
McCarthy: It was there.
Jamie: I’ve only owned a couple of guns yeah and all these other guns are here and everythink.
McCarthy: Well okay, ya you’re talking about a lot of guns it it would be it would be good if I could find out what sort of guns you’ve got.
Jamie: Oh yeah yeah yeah I’ll phone you back up ………..Inaudible
On Hawaiian holiday and helicopters:
McCarthy: How’s things going in there mate?
Jamie: Fine couldn’t be better just like on a Hawaiian holiday
McCarthy: Hawaiian holiday?
Jamie: Yes that’s correct sir.
McCarthy: Oh, sorry I don’t understand what you mean by that.
Jamie: Uh I don’t know myself no.
McCarthy: You’ve. You’re still firing a few er er
McCarthy: odd shots out the
Jamie: Well I’m looking forward to my helicopter ride man. When are you gonna to tee up this helicopter ride?
Jamie: I love helicopters all always been in helicopters in ah I mean I’ve always been interested in helicopters
On Port Arthur:
McCarthy: I want to talk to you cause I’m here devoted to talk to you and um that’s
McCarthy: all I want to do.
Jamie: Yeah what what went on at Port Arthur?
McCarthy: Well I was hoping that you might be able to tell me a little bit about what happened at Port Arthur you being down there.
Jamie: Was there anyone hurt?
McCarthy: Well, I understand there’s been er er a number of people hurt at Port Arthur.
Jamie: Yeah. Oh they weren’t killed?
McCarthy: Well, I don’t know what, I don’t know the full details I know that er er somebody’s been shooting at people down at Port Arthur and er in the meantime ah we’ve also encountered the problem that we have with you, you sort of er want a helicopter and all these things and we’re trying to establish whether
McCarthy: that’s er you know the same incidents are related in any way
Jamie: No no they’re not at all.
McCarthy: They’re not.
Jamie: No no I don’t know who that person was no. But um, what I can guarantee you that um I’m looking forward to my helicopter ride
Jamie: but you reckon it’s gonna be a a army one
McCarthy: Well, no I no
Jamie: be fun
On making sandwiches:
Jamie: I’ve got twenty to seven cause of I’m making up some sandwiches
McCarthy: Cough [gunshot?]
Jamie: these people have got um salad and some bacon in the fridge
Jamie: and eggs I’m gonna fry up some bacon and eggs for them
McCarthy: Uh uh.
Jamie: Uh that’s all they seem to have in the that I can find that’s nutritious.
McCarthy: Ah I, I see well is there anything we can get for you perhaps ah perhaps we can get something for you that ah
McCarthy: that can help out as far as feeding and giving you drinks and what have you.
Jamie: Ah well helic um launching down in a box with a helicopter or what
McCarthy: Ah well no, no we we’d
Jamie: I mean that you’d be frightened that I’d shoot out at you but I wouldn’t I love helicopter,