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8chan Owner Says Manifesto Was NOT Uploaded By the El Paso Walmart Shooter

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=274&v=yKPdbEAmWGE

This was published by RBN on 6 August 2019.

“The owner of the anonymous message board 8Chan, Jim Watkins, has unequivocally stated that the manifesto which was said to have been posted by the El Paso Walmart shooter on his website was not actually posted by the killer.

“Just moments before the deadly shooting in El Paso on Saturday, a sinister four page long manifesto was posted to 8Chan by someone who claimed to be the shooter.

“However, Watkins, an Army veteran, asserted that the shooter actually posted on Instagram prior to the attack — and whoever uploaded the manifesto to 8Chan was not the person who committed the heinous act.

“First of all, the El Paso shooter posted on Instagram, not 8Chan. Later, someone uploaded a manifesto. However, that manifesto was not uploaded by the Walmart shooter,” Watkins asserted in his video statement. “I don’t know if he wrote it or not, but it was not uploaded by the murderer. That is clear, and law enforcement was made aware of this before most people had even heard the horrific news.”

“Watkins asserted that though his platform is known for being a bastion of free speech, they have never and will never protect illegal speech.

“On Sunday, a campaign went viral to get hosting companies to ditch 8Chan over the manifesto turning up there. Cloudflare, a web security company, also announced that they would be dropping 8Chan. Watkins said that the move to target his website’s hosting is political.”

 

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  1. And the Instagram account had been inactive for about a year! So who posted this ‘manifesto’ on 8Chan just before the massacre? Hellooo, looks like we have a psy-op.

    It seems like someone also wanted to take down 8Chan.

    The killer is also allegedly autistic and had to take special classes in school and people that knew him say that he could have never written the ‘manifesto’.

    The FBI has also taken over the investigation, so I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for any surveillance videos from Walmart (there should be heaps available).

      • Yes, the westminster terrorist attack on 3/22, where all the cameras were turned off to save money! Some of the more famous pictures were taken by a royal photographer for the queen, no less…

    • A place like Walmart is a psy-op of itself
      As is the fact that choosing to hang out in such a joint is a “t r a g e d y”

      As for Jim Watkins I can’t get past the people-pleasing bilge

      • “What a sad weekend ra ra ra………….My thoughts and prayers are for the victims of the violence everywhere”

        But I’m left none the wiser re the U.S. definition of “illegal speech”(what offence was purportedly committed) and why the identity of the circulator would make any difference

        • Protecting free speech means specifically protecting offensive and hateful speech. You don’t make laws to protect speech everyone agrees with.

          • Perhaps but that is not even all of the agenda with PC or Political Correctness which is controlling the masses from genuine dissent, genuine comments against government policies that are unjust, unfair and unsound. It limits freedom of expression in the process. No open debate, discussion or dialogue on vaccinations. Curtailing overseas speakers in not allowing them to have a passport to speak in Australia. No open discussions on the false flag wars with the Fascist Americans.
            No open discussions on a number of topics is not freedom of speech or freedom of expression which has been severed restricted by the Australian government

            We really do not have the protection of free speech it is simply “implied”
            Freedom of Speech so-called is not freedom of consequences

            https://www.humanrights.gov.au/our-work/rights-and-freedoms/freedom-information-opinion-and-expression
            Constitutional law protection. The Australian Constitution does not explicitly protect freedom of expression. However, the High Court has held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an indispensible part of the system of representative and responsible government created by the Constitution.

  2. Hey Aussies, Fiona Barnett’s book has come out. Diane linked it on yesterday’s article. Here is an appetizer:

    Eyes Wide Open is not a biography …. Consider it more a reference book designed to meet three distinct aims:
    1. Provide the relevant historical basis for understanding the existence and coverup of CIA child trafficking, ritual abuse, and mind control.

    Document my personal experience of this abuse in Australia and the USA.
    Offer information for combating the techniques which cults, the military and
    intelligence agencies use to artificially induce dissociation and achieve radical and strategic behaviour modification.

    I explain the nature of Trauma-Based Forced Dissociation including the victim selection process, why most therapy is ineffective, and why a Trauma-Focussed Integration approach is essential.
    My testimony is scaffolded by the extraordinary research of Steve McMurray.

    Go Steve, go Fiona, go Diane. You go God! Everybody, hurry up and help us. The baddies are not petering out. They are getting more numerous and ruthless every day. When they strike en masse you will not have a shield for yourself. Come on, join us. Be brave.

      • Thanks Mary for picking this up.
        At the beginning of your updated book Deliverance Aishe
        the artist of the Mandala on the front cover states:
        It is part of a series of healing mandalas
        paying tribute to Fiona Barnett, Sarah Moore, Reina Michaelson and the hundreds of men, women, and children who have searched for truth.
        Fiona’s story in this book.
        Sarah Moore:
        https://iview.abc.net.au/show/cult-of-the-family
        Episode 1 Unseen Unheard Unknown
        Episode 2 A question of identity
        Episode 3 in search of Justice
        Reina Michaelson
        Australian Angel – Dr Reina Michaelson

        There are hundreds of testimonies.

        • MKULTRA in Australia: We are the headquarters the spider in the middle of the network.

          Everyone needs to read Fiona’s book–a big read-it in my opinion is indisputable.

          Have just re read the introduction of Nick Bryant’s The Franklin Coverup:

          Also Kevin Arnett–the truth seekers.

  3. OFF TOPIC
    Zionist Israel was behind the destruction of Fukushima Daichi
    http://illegalisraeltimeisup.com/zionist-israel-was-behind-the-destruction-of-fukushima-daiichi/
    “In February 2010, Japan offered to enrich uranium for Iran. Soon thereafter, an Israeli firm by the name of Magna BSP secured a contract to run security at the Fukushima Daiichi plant. They installed oversized cameras strongly resembling gun-type nuclear weapons. There is strong evidence that they planted Stuxnet, an Israeli computer virus that attacks Siemens power plant control systems, and which Israel previously used to damage Iran’s nuclear program. Magna BSP also established internet data links in the reactor cores, in blatant violation of international nuclear regulations.”

    THE MOTIVES

    Japan was developing all electric and hydrogen fueled vehicles which posed a threat to the Zionist bankster oil industry.
    Japan offered to enrich Iranian uranium and strayed from the Illuminati bankster dictate
    Japan had become an economic liability

    • Some more Off-Topic:
      How China Tries To Take Its Totalitarian Social Control Tactics Global
      Recent incidents in Australia and New Zealand are a chilling reminder of the long arms of Chinese censorship and its impact on Western institutions.
      https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/02/china-tries-take-totalitarian-social-control-tactics-global/

      Even if Japan is successful with those cars there will still be a big market for oil. But of course that is not how greed works.

      • Thanks Justin
        The Chinese are going to manufacture electric cars in a massive production.
        https://theconversation.com/the-electric-vehicle-revolution-will-come-from-china-not-the-us-116102

        https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&channel=trow&q=Chines+going+to+manufa

        The electric vehicle revolution is coming, but it won’t be driven by the U.S. Instead, China will be at the forefront.

        My research on EVs, dating back a decade, convinces me that this global transformation in mobility, from petroleum-fueled vehicles to electric ones, will come sooner than later. The shift is already happening in China, which is the world’s largest automobile market, with 23 million cars sold in 2018. As Western countries approach peak car ownership, there are still hundreds of millions of Chinese families that don’t own a car at all – much less two or more.

        Many of them are buying electric cars. By 2015, electric vehicle sales in China had surpassed U.S. levels. In 2018, Chinese sales topped 1.1 million cars, more than 55% of all electric vehicles sold in the world, and more than three times as many as Chinese customers had bought two years earlier. U.S. electric vehicle sales that year were just 358,000.

        A key element of an electric vehicle’s price is the cost of its batteries – and China already makes more than half of the world’s electric vehicle batteries. Battery prices continue to fall; industry analysts now suggest that within five years it will be cheaper to buy an electric car than a gas- or diesel-powered one.

        Forecasts predict the Chinese producing as much as 70% of the world’s electric vehicle batteries by 2021, even as the demand for electric car batteries grows.

  4. The Fascist Technocrats are at work once again for this insane “Full spectrum dominance” to control the world. Where are the white hats in combating these regular attacks?

  5. Technocracy Rising: The Trojan Horse Of Global Transformation
    https://www.amazon.com/Technocracy-Rising-Trojan-Global-Transformation/dp/0986373907
    The dark horse of the New World Order is not Communism, Socialism or Fascism. It is Technocracy.

    With meticulous detail and an abundance of original research, Patrick M. Wood uses Technocracy Rising to connect the dots of modern globalization in a way that has never been seen before so that the reader can clearly understand the globalization plan, its perpetrators and its intended endgame.

    In the heat of the Great Depression during the 1930s, prominent scientists and engineers proposed a utopian energy-based economic system called Technocracy that would be run by those same scientists and engineers instead of elected politicians. Although this radical movement lost momentum by 1940, it regained status when it was conceptually adopted by the elitist Trilateral Commission (co-founded by Zbigniew Brzezinski and David Rockefeller) in 1973 to be become its so-called “New International Economic Order.”

  6. Trump visited the WesternWall on August 22 2017. I haven’t counted the time lapse myself, but according to Logic Before Authority, previously The Idaho Picker, it will be 811 days on the 11th of August 2019.

    • So what are you saying Kevin or what is Logic Before Authority trying to imply?

      God did not intend for those who ‘proclaim’ they are Jews (by religion not genetics) to wear all of that outlandish garb on their heads and wrist. They have completely misinterpreted what God meant and of course they reject Jesus and are Judaizers against Christiinaity

      Christians need to wake up out of their slumber and their belief system and understand what Judaism (another ism) is and what it stands for. Despite what the so-called Jews say you have to read their documents or statements of faith to what hey actually believe in

      Judaism’s view of Jesus
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism%27s_view_of_Jesus
      Among followers of Judaism, Jesus is viewed as having been the most influential and, consequently, the most damaging of all false messiahs.[1] However, since the traditional Jewish belief is that the messiah has not yet come and the Messianic Age is not yet present, the total rejection of Jesus as either messiah or deity has never been a central issue for Judaism.https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/judaizers/In Galatians 2:14 it means to “live like Jews” (RSV, neb, NASB, Phillips),”follow Jewish customs” (NIV), or “live by the Jewish law”(Barclay). The context for this reference is the episode in Antioch when Paul condemns Peter’s withdrawal from table fellowship with Gentile Christians. Peter’s actions a reviewed by Paul as a serious compromise of the gospel of salvation by grace through faith alone, lending support to the position that sought to impose Jewish ceremonial law on the Gentiles. Thus, Paul interprets Peter’s withdrawal in terms of its effect in compelling Gentile Christians to live like Jews.
      The sacred Scriptures of Judaism consist of three groups of documents: the Law, the Prophets, and the Writings (such as Psalms and Proverbs). These Scriptures also form the Old Testament of the Christian Bible. Judaism does not accept the inspiration of the New Testament or its account of the fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecies.

      There are many areas of agreement between the two faiths, for Christians also accept the Old Testament and all its teachings as inspired. Among the basic truths accepted by both faiths are the perfect creation of the world out of nothing by an infinite God, the entrance of sin into this world via the temptation of another transcendent being called Satan, the judgement of God on sin, and the necessity of atonement for sin. In Judaism this atonement is accomplished through sacrifices, prayer, righteous acts, and God’s mercy.

      Why did so many Jews reject Jesus?
      https://www.differentspirit.org/posts/why-did-so-many-jews-reject-jesus.php

  7. A Miscellaneous Note

    re a UN Convention to which Oz is a party.
    Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment

    Article 13

    “Each State Party shall ensure that any individual who alleges he has been subjected to torture in any territory under its jurisdiction has the right to complain to, and to have his case promptly and impartially examined by, its competent authorities.

    “Steps shall be taken to ensure that the complainant and witnesses are protected against all ill-treatment or intimidation as a consequence of his complaint or any evidence given.”

    …I’m just sayin’.

  8. The UN is a Communist organisation that is being supported financially and politically. Each country needs to defend and support its national sovereignty and laws instead of referring them to an outside foreign agency or Centralisation of nations.

    The UN is a Communist organisation.
    “Capitalists” and the Communist Dimension
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/un_exposed/un_exposed04.htm

    THE UN IS COMMUNIST
    http://www.unwatch.com/un_communist.shtml

    The UN_American United Nations
    http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/un/unamerican.htm#.VD2jGs015NU
    A. The UN’s Founders were known Communists
    The U.N. Deception 46 min 58 sec://www.crossroad.to/Excerpts/chronologies/un.htm it’s true that the personality, purpose, and accomplishments of an organization are highly affected by its leadership, then membership in the United Nations spelled trouble from the start. Of the 17 individuals identified by the US State Department as having helped shape US policy leading to the creation of the United Nations, all but one were later identified as secret members of the Communist Party USA (3).

    Joining them at the UN’s founding conference were 43 members of the ultra influential, ultra pro-socialist, globalist think-tank the Council On Foreign Relations, (6 of the 43 CFR members having the additional distinction of membership in the Communist Party USA) (4). And, importantly, the UN’s first Secretary General and orchestrator of the San Francisco conference was the man later convicted as a Soviet agent – Alger Hiss (5)

    The UN is a Communist Organisation
    http://therainmanperspective.blogspot.com.au/2012/05/united-nations-is-communist.html

    A Chronology of the UN The Revolutionary Steps to Global Tyranny
    http://www.crossroad.to/Excerpts/chronologies/un.htm

    Habitat II The UN Plan for Global Settlements
    http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/hab2.html

    The Truth About the United Nations
    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/un.htm
    The U.N. Deception 46 min 58 sec

    Remember Kim Beasley in federal parliament saying……….
    “the United Nations has given the federal government a mandate of ownership for housing, property, farms and business to government control once the republic has been proclaimed”. (Edit: Question. Who says the UN has such authority? Not the people of Australia!)
    “I believe these things are done incrementally. You prepare a public mind, a public attitude; you
    create an acceptance of the unacceptable”.
    Now he is the CEO of a company with the same name and emblem as here in Australia, called COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CIK (0000805157)
    Business Address – 1601 MASSACHUSETTS AVE NW WASHINGTON DC 20036
    Is this where our Taxes are going, then borrowed back to say we have a debt?
    How can Australia be in Debt when we have our own system in place to fix any debt in any state of Australia, namely the Commonwealth Constitution 1900 -1901.

  9. We have 4 posts on topic and 9 off topic – and the ones off-topic are MUCH longer than the ones on topic.

    Sometimes I see something I think Dee might want to run with, so I send the information and links to her as a private email. She might run 10-20% of the ‘great ideas’ that I have discovered. It’s her call, I’m not going to clog up her blog with my ramblings.

    If Dee didn’t run with it and I thought my ‘revelations’ were important enough, I’d start my own forum/blog so the world would know that important information. I wouldn’t use Dee’s website as my private blog.

    So, anybody got anything else on the El Paso massacre. There’s heaps out there if you take a look…

      • Trim? Gawd Damn! Arlyn is doing the same thing after your expose’ on the Christchurch shootings. Yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, etc. infinitum. – If he isn’t a government troll, he sure as Hell acts like it. Endless commentary to drag any legitimate discussion off into the moronosphere.

        You’ve got more patience than I would have, I’d have chucked the SOB in the sin bin a long time ago.

        • Terry you are such a whinger concerning myself and my posts. First you want posts with El Paso even though a ‘few’ of us went OFF TOPIC which we can do as I was informed.

          Do you want facts of corroborating evidence to assist the person who posted the article in the first instance or do you want just opinionated opinions from us. I see it as both regardless if many of the opinions do not point to facts or truth.
          The articles provide further insight into what the original post was intended.

          “If he isn’t a government troll, he sure as Hell acts like it.” This is a really silly and ignorant comment Terry and you should know better as you already know my background. You don’t have to read my articles then you won’t have to bitch any more.

          There is still legitimate discussion going on but there is also more of an uncovering of information to help the article that we all contribute in some way or or another.

          Being derogatory and losing your temper about me is fascinating….

          • not that i am a fan of either but Terry does have a point in this case, fascinating that you wont acknowledge it and just take it under advisement!

    • The inability to stay on-topic demonstrates a lack of discipline and restraint and such qualities are critical to countermanding any sort of corruption, cruelty or injustice.

      And as there really is no neutral ground everyone needs to tread very carefully

  10. Give us a break Arlyn.

    The events to which you refer took place long after the UN was designed.

    The UN, including UNESCO, WHO, WTO, IMF, and WB, was designed by Nelson Rockefeller between 1934 and 1938, and its HQ was eventually installed on Rockefeller land in New York.

    Communism, as we witnessed it within the Bolsheviks in 1917, was Zionist-inspired.
    The ‘socialism by stealth’ varient which has emanated from the London School of Economics (ie Hawke and Whitlam) and the Tavistock Institute, flows from the City of London Rothschilds.
    The Bank for International Settlelements, which controls all central banks (ie Reserve Bank of Australia) is entirely Rothschild-owned (Basel Switzerland); and the Jesuit, Assassinni, Opus Dei, and Vatican elements are, of course, in Rome.

    Ergo… the UN is not a plot by a single entity, but by an alliance of the old aristocracy, the investment bankers, the Christian Churches (Catholic, United, Anglican, Baptist), national Law Societies, the Eugenics Society (renamed post WWII Family Planning), American Psychiatry, and a range of NGOs and Corporations invariably owned by the above dynasties; prominently contributed to by former Nazi George Soros. More recently, you can add the Association of University Vice Chancellors and Local Government Association (UN) to this list. And not forgetting the IPCC, which has proved one of the most successful UN strategies and designed by Rothschild protege Maurice Strong. This one sucked in almost the whole of global university science and academic faculties.

    It is an alliance first loosely formed in 1790 in Paris, to counter the French and American Revolutions, and in England to counter the teachings of Thomas Paine (The Rights of Man), and developed its first financial power base under Mayer Rothschild in England three days after the Battle of Waterloo, when Mayer multiplied his wealth by 2000% without investing a cent of his own money.

    All of these interests have been supported by the global Zionist media, coordinated since 1973 by Rupert Murdoch and Frank Lowy.

    When you target a single entity, to the exclusion of other members, you are serving the alliance’s propaganda machine splendidly indeed.

  11. What do you mean give us a break Arlyn?
    I was commenting and posting on Mary comment of the UN
    I’m very aware of all that you have said but it was the UN that was mentioned not any other agency

    • and here is a great example of detracting, the commentator specifically called you out on points in your treatise of the UN. I didnt see any support for your arguments, just justifying why you made the comment. YOU MAY be aware but having the discussion with Tony also informs the blog reader the 2 sides of the discussion. This maybe what Terry is talking about.

  12. American Intelligence Media
    https://aim4truth.org/2019/08/04/cat-report-97/

    Have you ever noticed that the DailyMail UK is always first on the scene to provide extensive photographic coverage of events like these? They post extensive articles even before U.S. based media have time to report on them. The reason is very simple: It is a BRITISH-TAVISTOCK PROPAGANDA outlet. Below is the article that they posted and which will give you an idea of some of the images Thomas describes in the audio.

    AIM Patriot Jim sums it up like this:

    The shooting aspect of the civil struggle has been raised a notch in the past few days. The Deep State Crown Agents are executing their asynchronous destabilization plan across America. All global aspects of this plan are in play, from North Korean rockets, Boris Johnson’s press releases regarding support for Zionism, China’s provocations in the Philippine Sea, press releases about Afghanistan withdrawal, fake tanker provocations in the straits of Hormuz, and now mass shootings by Tavistock zombie’s in the El Paso and Dayton. To the uninitiated, all of these events will appear random and disconnected. I only see a web of the ongoing deceit by the globalist’s agenda to destabilize the world so it can be reformatted according to the UN agenda…which is the British Crown one world agenda.

    • These 3 links here you provide is what I call ‘propaganda’ they all spout leftist narratives (get used to that word, your TV sells you products and narratives)
      They quote the hate group The Southern Poverty Law Centre (I think the FBI has listed them as such) or the ADL a pro Israel or pro Zionist group (I think pro Zionist)
      and the first link is a professor from New York University. Universities are where most of the leftist dogma comes from, of which influence has come from the (mostly jewish founded) School of Frankfurt.

      Ask yourself: what Nazi or white supremacist attacks can you name from 1980-2010?
      With today’s media so hysterical over white supremacism and Nazism don’t you think we would have saturated with coverage of such attacks?

      • Very true Justin. There is a lot of that going on the prostitute propaganda media and press in addition the CIA Mockingbird. Berkeley is renown for that as well a NYU. The media is hysterical over many issues particularly vaccination, gun control, NWO, Brexit, fake news etc etc

    • How to creat white racists:

      1) Constantly and aggressively guilt white people for things done by people hundreds of years ago.
      2) Shame white people for no other reason than how they were born.
      3) Tell white people that they have invisible privilege and they deserve nothing they’ve accomplished even if they grew up in horrible conditions.
      4) Reject any apologetic action or attempts to “be better white people” as racist.
      5) Tell white people they are bland, boring, and have no culture.
      6) Tell them they are racist for dating and marrying within their race.
      7) Tell them they have no right to advocate for their own interests while everyone else does.
      8) Tell them they have no right to their own native countries in Europe.
      9) Call them racist for enjoying the company of their own race.
      10) Call them racist for not having a crippling sense of self loathing and guilt for who they are.
      11) Tell them they deserve to be minorities in their own country.
      12) Tell them they have no right to defend themselves against non-white violence.
      13) Tell them they cannot experience racism.

  13. Jimmy Kimmel on Mass Shootings in El Paso & Dayton

    The US Senate will not allow proper background checks. The gun owners support this by 97%. Only in America

    • Jimmy Kimmel? From Wikipedia:
      James Christian Kimmel (born November 13, 1967)[3] is an American television host, comedian, writer, and producer. He is the host and executive producer of Jimmy Kimmel Live!, a late-night talk show that premiered on ABC on January 26, 2003 at Hollywood Masonic Temple in Hollywood, California. Eyebrow raised at the least.
      ^^^^^^^^
      Jimmy is apparently, a Roman Catholic.

      Most mass shootings in the US have occurred in high gun control areas. Chicago has some of the toughest laws and yet has an annual gun death total of around 700 per year,

      If you are going to do a mass shooting, wouldn’t you pick an area that has high gun control rather than a place where someone is likely to have a gun?

      Gun control boils down to just two things:

      Do you want a high suicide rate? Then you don’t want gun control
      Do you want a high murder rate? Then you do want gun control

      As governments and foreign enemy states would want high gun control, why would any average citizen want this?

    • It’s not generally appreciated that when any government tries to arrogate more control via nefarious means it invariably winds up with less

      As recently aired, gun- restriction was central to the atrocities committed against the Weaver family and the Branch Davidians and said events triggered an unprecedented militia movement within the U. S.

      I saw the same principle played out re home-ed throughout 90s: I would otherwise probably never have taken a second look at Port Arthur

      • It is in the US Constitution in the 2nd Amendment for a well regulated militia. There are some very well armed and disciplined militias in the US. I am not talking about the white supremacy militias compared to the legitimate militias where ex-military personnel have joined for the purpose of defending the US from government tyranny which is a last resort. We can all observe what is happening in the Fascist US Empire

        The Militia Clauses
        https://law.justia.com/constitution/us/article-1/58-the-militia-clauses.html

      • As for the credo that Port Arthur was orchestrated as a means of introducing tighter gun restrictions I’ve yet to see any of the following questions being given due attention:

        1) what legislated restrictions were in place in which States at the time of the event?
        2) what non-legislated restrictions were in place in which States at the time of the event?
        3) how successful was the ‘96 buyback?

        I can vouch safe that the WA Police just continued to turn a blind eye to the type of trafficking that was beyond their control, to do favours for whomever they saw fit, and to be downright obstructive and antagonistic to anyone who didn’t tick certain political boxes whether or not they were fully compliant with the “law”. There was no fundamental change to anything. There might have been a more notable shift in other parts of the Country but the truth is that nothing very drastic took place anywhere: all “big bang” theories are skewed.

  14. The El Paso mass shooting is a far-right terror attack
    ://thinkprogress.org/the-el-paso-mass-shooting-is-a-far-right-terror-attack-d2b86a220a54/
    “This Anglo man came here to kill Hispanics. I’m outraged and you should be too. The entire nation should be outraged,” Wiles said in a statement. “In this day and age, with all the serious issues we face, we are still confronted with people who kill another for the sole reason of the color of their skin.”

    “We are most concerned about lone offenders, primarily using firearms, as [they] represent the dominant trend for lethal domestic terrorists,” Michael McGarrity, the FBI’s assistant director of counterterrorism, told the House Committee on Homeland Security in May. “Frequently, these individuals act without a clear group affiliation or guidance, making them challenging to identify, investigate, and disrupt.” In July, FBI director Christopher Wray told the Senate that the majority of the bureau’s 100 domestic terror arrests since October 2018 have involved white supremacy.

  15. Ya gotta wonder what all these ‘gun control’ psy-ops is leading to. If the PTB are slaughtering people to promote gun control, what the Hell do they have planned in the future that they want to disarm the populace this badly.

    They must be planning on a heck of a big blow-back that they need to commit these atrocities and subsequent MSM propaganda in order to disarm the public well ahead of the time.

      • Disagree. The plan described by Dr Richard Day in 1969 has had almost every iota of it fulfilled. Easiest to see in the breakup of the family such as we are witnessing in the Judicial Kidnap cases.

        • Well I can only go on what I’ve witnessed 1st hand, i. e. the complete lack of consistency or any real resolve. Which kinda suggests that the key players aren’t focused on anything more than the path of least resistance/self-interest

    • Perhaps global famine(with hungry desperate mobs) ensuing from the intensifying Eddy GSM with world wide crop failures etc etc may well be blow-back the PTB are preparing for.

      • Sandra, that was also my first guess. They have led the herd up the path of ‘Global Warming’ to distract them. When the ‘Penny Drops’ about the GSM – it is going to get ugly.

  16. I agree 100% with you Terry. One of their programs that could blow up in their face is the current legislation to protect the Banking Industry, that the idiots in Canberra are attempting to pull off. This supposed law to close down the “black economy” by getting rid of cash transactions, and the previous immoral, unethical Bill voted on by only 8 of the 67 Senators to allow banks to bail-in customers deposits may be the last straw that will awake the Australian public to react.

    This could eventually create a violent response from the public. Hence the need to build a fence around Parliament House, and remove weapons be it guns, knives etc. from the public domain.

    Unfortunately it appears that most politicians don’t even read the legislation that they vote through. They do as they are told by the Party Leaders. This is criminal activity! They are elected to act on behalf of their constituents, not for their Party, big business interests or overseas corporations.

    If they can’t stand up for their constituents they should get their noses out of the trough and return to life as a citizen.

  17. Dear Terry,
    There is no hope. Dee thinks she’s God’s gift to non-censorship. If a monkey started typing the complete works of Shakespeare in this column, and the OPINION EDITOR phoned her to say “Please put a 10,000 word limit on it,” Dee would say “Maybe next time.”

    (and that’s still only a maybe).

    • Charlene Chimpanzee says:

      O Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo?
      Deny thy father and refuse thy name.
      Or if thou wilt not, be but sworn my love
      And I’ll no longer be a Capulet.

      ‘Tis but thy name that is my enemy:
      Thou art thyself, though not a Montague.
      What’s Montague? It is nor hand nor foot
      Nor arm nor face nor any other part
      Belonging to a man. O be some other name.

      What’s in a name? That which we call a rose
      By any other name would smell as sweet;

      So Romeo would, were he not Romeo call’d,
      Retain that dear perfection which he owes
      Without that title. Romeo, doff thy name,
      And for that name, which is no part of thee,
      Take all myself.

      HELP!

    • This is my third attempt to reply to Mary’s “There is no hope” comment. I’ll leave the link out this time, perhaps that is what is blocking the reply.

      Maybe the spooks have realized Dee’s weakness. Every time a troll shows up and starts prattling BS he gets his butt kicked. Since that gambit doesn’t work, they brought in ‘the dumptruck’ to flood the threads with garbage to derail the discussion.

      The ‘Christchurch’ thread was a superb effort to dump load after load of non-sense, you’d have to back and attempt to read it to appreciate the amount of effort that was involved.

      Since the Christchurch thread is unreadable, I’ll clean it up with this post. Max Igan has a new video out where he goes through the killer’s video. The first part deals with all the disinformation about ‘nobody was killed’, ‘CGI’, ‘crisis actors’, etc. If you weren’t swayed by all the disinformation to begin with, just fast forward to 1:20 in the video where he discusses why the video is banned. It clearly shows that the killer is NOT WORKING ALONE. This is not a ‘lone gunman’ scenario.

      He also discusses the parked car that was just outside the entrance of the Mosque. Initially, he points the rifle at the driver, apparently recognizes the driver, doesn’t shoot at him, and then proceeds out front to the street. That car drives off during the massacre and is seen later being flagged through a Police road block.

      I’ll post a link to Igan’s video in my next post.

      • OK, I tried it and the link is the reason I got blocked. Apparently, you can’t link to Igan’s site from Gumshoes. Maybe it is just that video. I’ll try a few other things.

        • Wow, double wow. I tried 5 different ways and couldn’t work a way through the censor. I’ll send an email to Dee and see if she can get it through.

          • Sandra, I don’t understand how you assemble the link. If anyone does get to Max Igan’s ‘Crowhouse’ (perhaps using Duck Duck Go), go to the Bitchute link and find the fourth video down called ‘NZ Analysis’.

        • Terry,just google-Max Igan on the Cxxxxxxxxxx shooting
          I have omitted the NZ city name as this I think triggers the algorithm.

      • Max Igan’s video is indeed an excelllent analysis of the cxxxxxxxxxx video.

        Some of his observations include:
        How he grabbed a fuel container (presumably to burn down the mosque) but runs out to shoot someone running down the street, someone he could not have ‘just seen’

        How he runs out from inside the mosque to shoot at other two or three other people at the back of the mosque grounds.

        How he runs out of the mosque again to shoot at the two women running through the narrow gate at the front of the mosque grounds. Here he pans to the left as he is running out the main gate to try to finish them both off. As he does so, he looks to the left and sees a man in red (who is inside the mosque grounds) but does not shoot him??? This man in red may have been the same person who was walking along the pavement as the shooter initially pulled into the laneway next to the mosque.

        The shooter must have been told that those people were fleeing by someone, and I suspect this is why a different audio stream was streamed to cover up any communication he was being fed at the time.

        Max also shows that there ARE bullet holes in the windscreen of the shooter’s car.

        He even shows that there does look like blood spatter on the wall in one place, but I also see it in other frames.

        Can we also note how a man in black (military?) body armor and a rifle some 70cm long doesn’t frighten the middle eastern looking man and his wife who are standing at the main gate to the mosque (he sees the shooter and just turns away)

        When Max pointed out his observations to Jim Fetzer, Jim really started to lose it.

        • Once you view the video and the help that the killer is obviously getting, you know this is not a ‘lone gunman’ scenario. I hope the Kiwis can bring all this information out at their Royal Commission.

          The El Paso massacre seems to have carried the ‘white supremacy’, anti immigration narrative further with another bogus ‘Manifesto’.

          I read the El Paso manifesto and it sure didn’t read like something a special ed kid could put together. I had to look up the type of ammunition he stated he was going to use. There was a bit of technical information there that I’m not sure an autistic kid could comprehend.

          The manifesto also stated that he wasn’t going to be taken prisoner. If he was captured it was going to be because he was over powered. Then when he was ‘captured’ he walked up to an unsuspecting motorcycle cop with his hands in the air and said he was the shooter. Yeah, sounds like he wrote the manifesto alright.

          Then there is the pictures from the entrance of Walmart with him wearing cargo pants, but taken into custody wearing another type of pants. I suppose he wanted to change into fresh clothes before he surrendered.

          Some people say there were multiple shooters. No problem, all they have to do is release the Walmart surveillance videos and we’ll know the truth – just like at the Pentagon.

          The ‘gun control’ issue is just one aspect of this psy-op. The censorship of alternative media and the false ‘white supremacy’ look to be as big of issues that the MSM is pushing. – Just like after Christchurch.

  18. Wars and Domestic Massacres
    https://www.activistpost.com/2019/08/wars-and-domestic-massacres.html?utm_source=Activist+Post+Subscribers&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=aff69467c1-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_term=0_b0c7fb76bd-aff69467c1-388160085

    If we want to end mass killing, this is what we should be trying to stop. Instead, the military is glorified. Deaths in war are downplayed, but when a mass shooting happens in an American city, the media saturates us with propaganda calling for gun control.

    But one commonality among numerous mass killings in the United States remains absent from these conversations. It is always reported when details of the shooter are published, but the widespread connection is rarely acknowledged: A mounting number of mass shooters have ties to the military. The United States has indulged in a culture of ‘patriotic’ militarism for decades, glorifying this institutionalized violence as a sign of strength and morality.

    Indeed, this glorification of violence bleeds over into the United States’ unique problem of individuals committing acts of mass violence. Here is a brief sampling of perpetrators of some of the most high-profile mass shootings in recent years. Many were either members of the military at some point, were rejected by the military (but clearly wanted to join), or came from a military family:

    Instead of ending foreign wars, the greatest single contribution we could make to ending killing and violence, the power elite plays up mass shootings as part of its dual campaign to take away our guns and impose cultural Marxist mind control on us, in the guise of opposing “racism”.

    As part of this agenda, the FBI and CIA spy on us and plan to ship dissenters to concentration camps.

  19. From what I can gather the respective Walmart was situated in Cielo Vista Mall, a “gun-free” zone.
    Which doesn’t exactly put the prohibitionists in a good position

  20. With sincere apologies to Terry if this seems off topic.

    I thought this little gem was worth sharing – it encompasses and goes to the very heart of so many of the issues and topics that are covered here on Gumshoe – so I am not sure if it is really off topic – it does involve a manifesto after all.

    First a couple of extracts:

    1 “You must work until suicide arising from mental imbalance is common and calls forth no general investigation or remark. With the institutions for the insane you have in your country prisons that can hold a million persons and can hold them without civil rights or any hope of freedom. And upon these people can be practiced shock and surgery so that never again will they draw a sane breath.” {Introduction by Beria]

    “The tenets of rugged individualism, personal determinism, self-will, imagination and personal creativeness held by the masses are equally antipathetic to the good of the Greater State. These wilful and unaligned forces are no more than illnesses which will bring about disaffection, disunity, and at length the collapse of the group to which the individual is attached.” [Chapter 2]
    Look at Earth. We see here one entire organism. The organism of Earth is an individual organism. Earth has as its organs the various races and nations of men. Where one of these is permitted to remain disaffected, Earth itself is threatened with death. The threatened rebellion of one country, no matter how small, against the total organism of Earth, would find Earth sick, and the cultural state of man would suffer in consequence. [Chapter 1]

    The first quote is from the Introduction by none other than Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria –of Gulag and Ketyn Forest notoriety.

    I should point out that according to some reviews this document was circulating in the 1930s so ‘Russian” should really read “Bolshevik” or “Communist”.

    The second quote is just to whet your appetite. This comes from just the second of fifteen chapters of “Brainwashing: A Synthesis of the Russian Textbook on Psychopolitics”. The third (earlier) quote puts #2 in context and explains why Bolshevik/Communist ideology cannot tolerate “rugged individualism, personal determinism, self-will, imagination and personal creativeness”.

    It is cited here
    https://newswithviews.com/pedophilia-needs-a-poster-boy/

    A copy can be downloaded here …
    http://www.pdfarchive.info/index.php?pages/Br

    (enjoy the rest of the tour)

    • “With sincere apologies to Terry if this seems off topic.” – Julius, why would you start your post with that sentence?

      • I do beg your pardon for being so cryptic Terry. I was late to this thread – trying to keep the blinkers on with respect to this latest ?psyop fiasco – real or not. There are no one’s comments I appreciate and respect more on Gumshoe than yours, so in light of your earlier remark about comments being off topic I didn’t want to incur your wrath.

        I thought this ‘Brainwashing’ find was worth sharing as it seemed so relevant to the source of the disease (including the origins of MK Ultra and cultural Marxism in general), rather than just the symptoms that we see every day. There is a topical article on Russia Insider titled “Widespread Mental Illness in the US Is the Reason for All These Mass Shootings” with some interesting discussion including a comment (with link) from Tony Ryan.

        Also, the fact that the Introduction was by Beria is significant, as is its very chilling message (one more brief excerpt below).

        Furthermore, its relevance becomes even more prescient when contemplated alongside the interview with Yuri Bezmenov (a.k.a. “Tomas Schuman”) – for readers, here for example

        That brief excerpt, and to further whet readers’ appetites, a list of the ‘Brainwashing’ chapters below

        “By psychopolitics our chief goals are effectively carried forward. To produce a maximum of chaos in the culture of the enemy is our first most important step. Our fruits are grown in chaos, distrust, economic depression, and scientific turmoil. At last a weary populace can seek peace only in our offered Communist State, at last only communism can resolve the problems of the masses. {Beria – “1930-something”]

        Introduction
        Address by Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria

        Chapters
        1 The History and Definition of Psychopolitical
        2 The Constitution of Man as a Political Organism
        3 Man as an Economic Organism
        4 State Goals for the Individual and the Masses
        5 An Examination of Loyalties
        6 The General Subject of Obedience
        7 Anatomy of Stimulus-Response Mechanisms of Man
        8 Degradation, Shock, and Endurance
        9 The Organization of Mental Health Campaigns
        10 Conduct Under Fire
        11 The Use of Psychopolitics in Spreading Communism
        12 Violent Remedies
        13 The Recruiting of Psycopolitical Dupes
        14 The Smashing of Religious Groups
        15 Proposals That Must be Avoided

      • My view re the latter is that U.S. double-mindedeness is deeply rooted in a faux sense of nationhood. The bar on “coarse language” no doubt goes to a somewhat warped concept of Christianity, an idea about something or other that isn’t actually supported by anything in the Bible.

        Perhaps they should pay more attention to what Jesus’ natural brother said:

        “If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man”
        JAMES 3:1

        The balance of that passage strongly indicates that it’s all about self-censorship & self-improvement: there isn’t, in fact, anything in the New Testament that could possibly justify imposing any sort of personal restrictions on others

  21. “In this day and age, with all the serious issues we face, we are still confronted with people who kill another for the sole reason of the color of their skin.”

    Yep, lets just put it down to (just) skin colour. Never mind that 80% of these illegal immigrants will vote democrat. This is gerrymandering. And labor in australia knows it too.

      • The (hate-filled) things some people will say …

        Why are Jews are pushing for white genocide?

        Rabbi Baruch Efrati:

        “Jews should rejoice at the fact that Christian Europe is losing its identity as a punishment for what it did to us for the hundreds of years we were in exile there. … And now Europe is losing its identity in favour of another people and another religion. … Even if we are in a major war with the region’s Arabs over the land of Israel, Islam is still much better as a gentile culture than Christianity.”

        https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1144088/

        Rabbi Rav Touitou

        “The Messiah will come only when Edom, Europe, Christianity has totally fallen. So I ask you, is it good news that Muslims are invading Europe? It’s excellent news! It means the coming of the Messiah! Excellent news!”

        https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/french-rabbi-rav-touitou-applauds-muslim-invasion-of-europe

        • Jullius thanks for the link
          They rejected Christ the Saviour and they have this insane idea that another messiah will come soon.
          Remember there are Jews by religion not biblical Jews.
          There are Jews who discount and reject Jesus.
          There are the evil Zionists who proclaim they are Jews which is utter nonsense and another lie and deception.

          Revelation 3:9 King James Version (KJV)
          9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

          They are Judasiers as all of this is a spiritual war as well.

          We are simply goyim or cattle in their bigoted eyes to be used and discarded at their will

          Christian-Zionism In America Needs to Be Dismantled
          https://www.abeldanger.org/christian-zionism-in-america-needs-to-be-dismantled/
          There so called “prophecy” is not in line with biblical exegesis and just plain made up. It is another fable affection and a lie. It is actually heresy.

          • Christians need to wake up out of their slumber and their belief system and understand what Judaism (another ism) is and what it stands for. Despite what the so-called Jews say… you have to read their documents or statements of faith to what they actually believe in

            Judaism’s view of Jesus
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism%27s_view_of_Jesus
            Among followers of Judaism, Jesus is viewed as having been the most influential and, consequently, the most damaging of all false messiahs.[1] However, since the traditional Jewish belief is that the messiah has not yet come and the Messianic Age is not yet present, the total rejection of Jesus as either messiah or deity has never been a central issue for Judaism.

            Judaizer
            https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/judaizers/In Galatians 2:14 it means to “live like Jews” (RSV, neb, NASB, Phillips),”follow Jewish customs” (NIV), or “live by the Jewish law”(Barclay). The context for this reference is the episode in Antioch when Paul condemns Peter’s withdrawal from table fellowship with Gentile Christians. Peter’s actions a reviewed by Paul as a serious compromise of the gospel of salvation by grace through faith alone, lending support to the position that sought to impose Jewish ceremonial law on the Gentiles. Thus, Paul interprets Peter’s withdrawal in terms of its effect in compelling Gentile Christians to live like Jews.
            NIV Galatians 1:13-14 New International Version
            13 For you have heard of my previous way of life in Judaism
            how intensely I persecuted the church of God and tried to destroy it.
            NIV <Galatians 1:14 was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people and was extremely zealous for the traditions of my fathers.

            Galatians 2:14
            https://www.biblestudytools.com/galatians/2-14.html
            14 When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel
            I said to Cephas in front of them all “You are a Jew yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it then that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs?

            NIV Acts 26:5 New International Version
            5 They have known me for a long time and can testify if they are willing that I conformed to the strictest sect of our religion living as a Pharisee.

            NIV
            5 circumcised on the eighth day of the people of Israel of the tribe of Benjamin a Hebrew of Hebrews in regard to the law a Pharisee (Notice Paul uses Hebrew not Jew)

            Judaizers… who what and why? 4 min 39
            ***https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8VcBpY0q1o

            Don’t be a Judaizer 18 min 52
            ***https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3k3-qedihk

            Do Jews and Christians basically have the same religion?
            https://www.biblica.com/resources/bible-faqs/do-jews-and-christians-basically-have-the-same-religion/
            The faith of most religious Jews is called Judaism. It is the oldest of the world’s three great monotheis

    • Arlyn, thank you, I was not aware of that, but it does ‘click’ quite nicely. Your postings have reminded me that ‘psy-ops’ etc have been well orchestrated since at least roman times.
      And the current pope is definately totally in bat for immigration.

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