Introduction by Dee McLachlan
Rachel’s article today is about tunnels under Adelaide, and specifically about pedophiles (and her father) using tunnels under Edwardstown. On researching this topic, I suggest any visitors to Adelaide to go on a tunnel tour. Yes, “Journey underground with us to explore the secrets of one of Adelaide’s most fascinating colonial buildings” on the Old Adelaide Treasury and Tunnel Tour.
The ABC ran a two part series (Part 1, and Part 2) on drains, tunnels, and wartime bunkers that later became venues for sex workers. On SA History Hub, one can learn that construction on the Treasury tunnel started in 1839; with the history of the King William Street Tunnel being re-filled (1928), and rediscovered (1973). A sales ad boasts a secret bunker under a house, and cafe owner Daniel Milky, whilst renovating, found an “underground gem” (45m tunnel). On a reddit post, one person wrote: “There’s a secret tunnel that goes from Holden Elizabeth Plant to Edinburgh Raaf base. It’s large enough to fit a plane with it wing folded. Source: I’ve been in there.”
This article writes about gold storage, and that one underground space was used for “a rather nasty thing called an initiation ceremony for new public servants. Young male recruits would be dragged down here, undressed and hit with wet towels.”
Well, now for Rachel’s article:
by Rachel Vaughn
Adelaide is a terrifying place. Especially as a child.
My childhood in Adelaide is the stuff of nightmares.
The most disturbing aspect of being sexually, emotionally and ritually abused in Adelaide during my youth is the fact that I was only one of many children who were also being abused in Adelaide whether at home or in institutions. Much of this abuse is proven to have occurred under the full knowledge of the Australian government and the Catholic Church hierarchy.
Many children didn’t survive that abuse.
I believe the sort of abuse I was subjected to in Adelaide in the 1970s and 1980s still exists today.
My father Allan Maxwell McIntyre sexually abused my half sibling Andrew McIntyre (born 1953) and myself (born 1973) and several other children between the 1950s and late 1980s. Allan Maxwell also shared my brother Andrew and myself with members of his ‘Family’.
I was witness to my father murdering children in the late 1970s and 1980s.
My two siblings and myself made a statutory declaration in 2012 stating that, when we were children, our father involved us in the disposal of his victims. Not one of us has ever been questioned by SAPOL about this disclosure.
My futile attempts to have the historical crimes my father perpetrated investigated by South Australian police (SAPOL) were touched upon in Part 1 of Mary Maxwell’s ‘Here Comes the Avalanche’ series.
As discussed in Mary Maxwell’s ‘Here Comes the Avalanche Part 2’, my brother Andrew’s victim testimony was instrumental in having now twice-convicted pedophile Anthony Munro, a close friend of our father since the 1960s, charged and sentenced to imprisonment for child sex abuse.
Anthony Munro was such a close friend that my father professed to journalist Bryan Littlely on camera in 2015 that he ‘didn’t make a scene’ when he found Munro, ‘bundled and naked’ in bed with his young son Andrew.
Andrew has also assisted in having another of our father’s former lifetime friends John Pike jailed. John Pike has also been a close long-time friend of Anthony Munro. John Pike is facing 80 charges of child sex abuse (video here).
I allege that the South Australian police and other statutory bodies responsible for the discipline of police in Australia have been criminally negligent in their dealings with my allegations and those of my family members. I can’t say that I’ve been surprised by the stance of SA police in regards to my allegations.
I was sexually abused by an officer of the South Australian police as a child. My father told me then that if I told anyone about what he and his friends were doing to me, no-one in the police force would listen.
The former chief inspector of police who abused me as a child was convicted of child sex abuses in 2009. The crimes for which he was convicted occurred during the same time period that I allege he abused me. One of the two victims to secure that officer’s conviction was allegedly nine years old when he sexually assaulted her.
I was also nine years old when this officer perpetrated sex crimes against me in 1983.
I have identified this former chief inspector of police to detectives at the Adelaide major crime and sex crimes investigation bureaus; as well as officers at the Independent Commission against Corruption in SA (ICAC); the Police Ombudsman’s Office; the Office of Public Integrity; and the Australian Federal Police. I have diligently tried to communicate with these departments regarding this former police officer for the past six years (since January 2012.)
Just as the allegations against my father have been ignored by south Australian police (SAPOL) this convicted pedophile and former chief inspector of police has never been investigated by SAPOL regarding my allegations against him.
During my childhood I was trafficked to various abusers by my father through a tunnel system which still exists under the Edwardstown area. I saw this particular former chief inspector of police bring an incapacitated missing child into the cavity under my father’s home in 1983.
My half-brother Andrew McIntyre first found evidence five years ago of the existence of a cavity under our former Edwardstown home which allows access to these tunnels. This is evidence comprised of an aerial photograph from the 1940s showing a lighter shaded strip running through the site indicating deep excavation, as well as an access building above what was likely to have been a bomb shelter. This is on the Edwardstown land my father later owned.
I have officially alleged to SAPOL since 2012 that I was sexually, emotionally and sadistically abused by my father and others within the aforementioned cavity under my father’s former home in Edwardstown, South Australia.
I personally told two major crime detectives about the Edwardstown tunnels which led from this underground cavity below my former family home in interviews at the major crime offices in 2012. One of those detectives told me that the tunnels and the cavity under my father’s former Edwardstown home couldn’t possibly exist.
In 2012 this major crime detective used his incorrect assertion as an excuse to denigrate and ignore my claims that I witnessed the murder of Louise Bell within this underground cavity, but I will write about that separately.
As has already been discussed by Gumshoe readers, it would be easy to dismiss the allegations of just one of Allan Maxwell McIntyre’s children. But the corroborating allegations of three children from the same father detailing abuses spanning decades cannot, should never have been ignored by the government bodies entrusted with investigating such crimes.
If Andrew’s allegations against Anthony Munro in the District Court were considered credible enough to convict Munro, then surely Andrew’s allegations against our father alone should have been ample enticement for SAPOL to investigate our claims.
It should also be noted here that not one of Andrew’s allegations against Anthony Munro were contested by Anthony Munro nor Munro’s lawyer Stephen Ey. Legal professionals have instructed me that this is extremely unusual in a case involving allegations of child sex abuse. Andrew and I both allege that Anthony Munro wanted to avoid questioning in court over the fate of the three Beaumont children. Andrew had been vocal about his intention to question Munro in court about the Beaumont abductions.
An acquaintance of Andrew’s, a retired Telstra engineer named Thornton, told Andrew that the day the PMG [Postmaster-General’s Department] changed over to Telstra a person came into his office and removed all of his draughtsman’s maps of the historic bomb shelters and tunnels under Adelaide. Mr Thornton alleged to Andrew that he never saw those maps again.
Those Edwardstown tunnels that I was trafficked through as a child do exist. I have ample proof. I’ve known of them since I was a child. Recently several people furnished me with more evidence than I need to prove they are not a figment of my imagination. Page 72 from this Site Contamination Audit Report:
“AA1 was developed in the 1950s, with the site previously used for furniture
manufacture with a number of underground tunnels understood to be
associated with the activity, fodder production and motor reconditioning
works. The buildings within AA1 have been detailed in Annex E and detailed
in Figure 4 Annex A. This figure includes those buildings/structures in place in
2006 and those understood to have historically existed.”
In July this year I AGAIN gave allegations as well as proof of the Edwardstown tunnels to a Brevet Sergeant of the South Australian police.
I have heard nothing from SAPOL since.
It seems that the books and many articles and interviews naming my two half-siblings and airing their allegations against our father were not enough to get action from authorities to investigate their claims.
Despite further witnesses coming forward and corroborating my two half-siblings allegations that Anthony Munro and our father were involved in the abduction of the three Beaumont children, SAPOL still refuse to excavate my father’s two properties for the remains of the child victims he buried there.
My father’s own admission that he knew what happened to the Beaumont children (filmed interview Bryan Littley 2015) and Anthony Munro’s acceptance of all of Andrew’s allegations against him are still not enough to force SAPOL to do the right thing and investigate thoroughly.
The Castalloy dig early in 2018 was conducted on less convincing allegations.
I have now made my own allegations public to lend credence to my half-siblings who have made their allegations before me. I have done so after 12 years of following protocol and doing what is expected in cases of serious crime.
It’s not something I’ve enjoyed doing.
I would like to send a special message to the major crime detective in Adelaide who told me the Edwardstown tunnels and the edifice under my father former home do not exist.
I would like to ask readers of this article who live near the Edwardstown area to make their own forays into the tunnels and send selfies, photos and film of the explorations to the Adelaide major crime office.
Better yet, upload the images to the net and share. I will make sure the detective in question receives those images.
There are entry points to the Edwardstown tunnels along Railway Terrace Edwardstown. The entry points have been cleverly concealed but they are there. Explorers may need to take a crow bar along to open manhole covers. Just follow the railway track.
But watch out for trains! And please be careful. Anyone you meet in those tunnels could either be a curious truth seeker like yourself, or a person with a vested interest in keeping their tunnel ‘secret’. This should be an adults only foray. Preferably large groups of big strong adults only.
Tunnels exist all over Adelaide — under Parliament House; under Adelaide University; under Goodwood. I’ve also been told that I am not the only child to be trafficked to other houses and sexually abused via the tunnels in Edwardstown.
Since my testimony to the International Tribunal for Natural Justice aired on the 27th of August 2018 many persons have contacted me about being within the Edwardstown tunnels themselves, or having sighted documentation of their existence. I am aware that the online community are now visiting Facebook sites to provide more evidence of those Edwardstown edifices, the existence of which I have been pointing out to unresponsive authorities for six years.
I would love to know the GPS locations of all of the access points to the Edwardstown tunnels. I am even more interested in the locations of the many cellars and other underground edifices which join up with those tunnels, like the ones under my father’s former home on Macklin Street. (I’m not sure if GPS works underground, but if it does, or others know of a manner in which those access points can be mapped, I would be grateful for all information.)
My father’s former home sits by a junction of two of these tunnels.
What REALLY interests me about these Edwardstown tunnels is finding out the names of the past and present owners of homes with underground access. I would like to research how many of them have criminal convictions for child sex abuse… I might even recognize some of them.
Maybe a few pics of people posing in and around the tunnels in the Edwardstown area sent en masse to the major crime department in Adelaide will force them to finally dig at my father’s former home for Louise Bell’s remains, which lie buried there.
My father did not deserve to die a free man.
He was a monster.
Behind him he has left a wake of misery.
[To send information privately, email mclachlandee@gmail.com, and this will be forwarded to Rachel]
“The invention of the cable …This allowed the wires to be placed underground, into tunnels, solving the problems associated with above-ground lines. Most cities have large cable tunnels under the main roads and footpaths, and these cable tunnels are still in use today.
http://www.awesomeadelaide.com/tag/adelaide-underground/
“The Jackson Bunker was built amid the panic; 12 feet underground with 4 breather pipes and electric lighting. In a similar fashion, other air-raid shelters were constructed around Adelaide in their hundreds; most of which still exist today…
“Hidden under carpet conceals a small hatch that gets you into The Clarice Bunker. Descending down a rusted ladder and levering open a small blast door reveals the multi-roomed subterranean space.
Dear Rachel,
At first I felt opposed to your statement “Adelaide is a terrifying place.” We in the leafy suburbs think it is the safest place on Earth. “A great place to bring up children, plenty of netball, beaches, face-painting, etc.”
Well, OK, I capitulate. It is a terrifying place if three members of a family can go to the police to beg that their father be charged with crime and meet only a brick wall.
Or should I say “and meet only the partners-in-crime of the said father.”
Note: Did I just slander Cop A, B, or C, by implying that he’s a pedophile? Nope, that’s not what I mean. To cover up a crime or to be in any way an accessory to it is to be “partner-in-crime.”
They have covered your story up completely. To that extent they are patently criminal.
I apologize to you for the terrible worries you have had to carry alone, both as a little kid and as a grown-up. That’s all so needless, given that we have “institutions” that are supposed to perform the task of protection.
Why no photos of the tunnels in Edwardstown only the former Hills site report showing evidence of tunnel remnants on the actual site. Why no copy of the tunnel blueprints in the State Archives? The stolen blue prints were the only copy? Have you tried contacting the State Library?
All tunnel photos above are in the CBD
Maybe the authorities could find the tunnel blue prints — taking in account that the NBN should be accessing, or already have, these maps. Considering that there’s “A new centralised, 24/7 investigations area will monitor and assess reports of crime, making sure SAPOL’s response is thorough, consistent and appropriate, resulting in better outcomes for victims of crime.” maybe they could provide these.
https://www.police.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/365503/Organisational-Reform-District-Policing-Model.pdf
Well good point about the NBN. Then there should be up to date maps of these tunnels under Edwardstown as I believe that area has already been connected. It shouldn’t be too difficult to get hold of them. I may even know someone involved in that process so will ask later in the week.
Good timing actually it appears that NBN works in that area are currently taking place.
All photos in the article above are in or near Adelaide CBD not Edwardstown.
Yep. If they were, there’d be no need for this article.
So you mean that you’re not sure if they exist and you’re looking for photographic evidence?
Brigalow, Rachel is seeking anyone with photographic evidence of these tunnels…(I digress) like we are seeking CCTV evidence of the plane impacting the pentagon from the many many cameras on the most guarded building in the world… but nadda… not one image of a plane. The FBI confiscated CCTV footage from surrounding businesses. Oh boy where does one start? Take the Blue Pill maybe.
THE POINT OF THE ARTICLE, SHOULD BE TO ALERT READERS OF THE LOCATION OF TUNNELS, IT SEEMS FROM THE ARTICLE THAT THE LOCATION OF TUNNELS IS UNKNOWN, CORRECT?
The point of the article is to request information Des.
It seem that certain institutions in Australia work more for criminals than I realised. I will name some of these institutions that I believe can be put in this category. I am not saying everybody in these groups act criminally, however there is much covering up of crime, both intentionally and unintentionally. I will start with Federal and State parliaments, State Police Forces, the Australian Federal Police, the Australian Crime Commission, ASIO, the various religions, and the Judicial system.
You forgot the DPP, a law unto itself.
Okay. In an article where there are so many claims that appear to lies/delusions, I will focus on just a couple of things that warrant questioning. 1: Rachel has been very active over very many years making all sorts of claims about her father ‘the monster’ yet she has never until very recently claimed anything about these tunnels. I have ready previous stat decs from both herslef and Andrew made for police in the past and none contained any mention whatsoever of these tunnels. Andrew’s also did not mention any trafficking of himself or sharing of himself by his father with other friends. I find that interesting. 2: Next – and this is a biggie. The mention of John Pike (currently going through the criminal process of facing court on several historical sex charges against children – absolutely none of which have anything to do with Andrew McIntyre, it should be noted). Andrew McIntyre had absolutely nothing to do with John Pike’s arrest or conviction. Nothing. In fact, despite his past abuse by Tony Munro, which is a terrible thing to happen to any child, Andrew McIntyre maintained a close friendship with John Pike – even though he was well aware of John Pike’s life. Their friendship was so close that, until around the time Tony Munro was convicted on historical child sex abuse charges against Andrew and another victim, Andrew hosted John Pike as a regular visitor to his house. Andrew lives close to Adelaide Airport and would offer his house to John Pike whenever John left his Streaky Bay home to travel on one of his many trips to Cambodia. Yes, John made many trips back and forth to Cambodia and almost every time, because Streaky Bay is a such a long away from Adelaide, John would stay one or two nights at Andrew’s house before and after his trips. This is a fact. And I have interviewed a friend of John Pike’s (and someone who also travelled to Cambodia and stayed with John Pike in both Streaky Bay and Andrew’s house) who has told me all about it, to confirm it. While on the subject of John Pike, it is extremely interesting that a house bought in country SA in the early 2000s was bought in the name of John Pike, Andrew McIntyre and Andrew McIntyre’s son, Cameron. This is all easily checked by searching house title data. Fact. The address is in Kimbah. The house title was originally in all three men’s names – then transferred solely to the name of Cameron McIntyre and both Andrew McIntyre’s name and John Pike’s name were removed from the title. Again – easily checkable on house title searches. To this day, Cameron McIntyre’s name is still on that title as the owner. John Pike was a long-time confidante of Andrew McIntyre’s and someone he had very regular dealings with, as recently as John Pike’s most recent trip to Cambodia in late 2017 when John stayed at Andrew’s house on his way to the trip (upon his return from that trip, he was arrested and charged). As a journalist, I have been following the Pke case very closely and have personally spoken to the Queensland police officer in charge of the case against Pike. What I have said are all facts that Andrew cannot possibly deny. Again, I repeat, he had nothing at all to do with Pike’s arrest or charges and I am under the impression that SAPOL have been looking into his ongoing friendship with Pike and the house transaction. I do not know what it all means but it is certainly not as you have presented it here, Rachel.
Claire, thank you for your comment.
I note Rachel said “John Pike has also been a close long-time friend of Anthony Munro.” And you truly embellished on her point. So as you say there was an association.
By the way Rachel said Andrew “assisted in” — that could mean as little as answer a question for the police — or as much as going to court as a victim witness. And SO what that Rachel initially never mentioned tunnels. She probably didn’t want to add to the already enormous allegations she was putting forward. When she did, the authorities pooh-poohed it anyway.
I was hoping not to get involved in the tit-for-tat discussions here, but all I can reflect on is that suffering from trauma must be a terrible thing.
I spoke to a victim of child abuse and abandonment the other day. He was around 10, and then was fostered out. It took 40 years to come around and deal with all that past experience. He allowed only little bits of his experience and trauma out over a few (recent) years — then finally gave a submission the the RC — and got the compensation. That pattern seemed to occur in 1000s of people.
There was the case of a father being abused by a priest, then stayed friends with the priest while his children were abused — until he cracked. My guess this could be classified as trauma survival — trying to normalise your life and people around you — which could lead to poor associations.
So my observation is that Rachel and Andrew’s disclosure FOLLOWS the PATTERN — the well trodden path of trauma disclosure.
With regard to tunnels, a Belgium pedo was planning to use tunnels in his ideal underworld.
I also think those who have suffered trauma deal with trauma differently. Take for example: gay bashers are often gay themselves — trying to eliminate that which they despise of themselves. I’d say there might be people who have been abused who discredit abused victims because they are trying to make their world normal — as a means of their survival. I understand that this is possible and sympathize.
There is one person that inspired me to start this site many years ago and that was Bobby McIlvaine. His son was killed by an explosion in the north tower lobby — 93 floors below the impact of the plane (and a second before impact). Not one person from any authoritative body in the US government has bothered about his son’s death — a death that was so obviously not from the plane, or any Arab terrorist. It is nearly 17 years later. He could prove beyond reasonable doubt from the autopsy that his son was killed by an explosion in the lobby. Now 3000 people were killed that day. MURDERED.
So understand that I have little faith in AUTHORITATIVE BODIES.
So when we come to Rachel’s story… well, I say, stop the discussion and investigate what she’s saying. Then let the chips fall as they may.
Brilliant reply Dee Mclachlan in response to Claire …… I watched Rachel’s testimony and this lady has been living in a hell! You can’t make this stuff up! She has been living with this her whole life, discrediting her and picking holes in her story and in her character is nothing short of cruel. She is putting her life on the line and all some people can do is nit-pic.
Goosebump City if you are over age 60:
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Claire Halliday. Whilst you are pontificating about ALL you know on the McIntyre/Pike case – which is all pretty lame by the way – perhaps you will do some actual research and find that you only have what S and D are telling you, and nothing else. All of your long winded arguments are tragic guff. I’m sorry that your Armageddon has finally befallen you, but you were warned. Many times I might add. By several people. As was my family member who now owns the Macklin Street murder house. A house which is currently up for sale…or didn’t anyone bother to tell you? Seems my allegations are credible enough for that family member to be hightailing it out of there in a real hurry. Tenders by 14th September. And whilst you are naming people here, at least have the decency to use your own name. I am obviously Rachel Vaughan. The author.
I see that it is for sale on realestate.com.au being number 8 if im not mistaken , I would get a building inspection done as a buyer and get photos. Perfect opportunity. Couple of us associates would love to go check these tunnels out and perhaps take them over and flush these sick bastards out with a stick, point us in the right direction can ya.
Ummm…I do not know where to begin with your response, Rachel. But there’s this: I did use my name – my name is Claire. None of the stuff I know about Pike case has come from S or D. as you refer to them. As I mentioned, I have been following the case as a journo and have interviewed both one of Pike’s victims and the leading police officer handling the case. Macklin Street is not a murder house but yes, I already knew it was on the market. You do realise that people buy and sell houses as the needs of their family change? Otherwise there would be no real estate market. If you are so serious about your claims to prove Macklin Street has tunnels and bodies of victims, why not create a gofundme page to purchase the house with your brother. You two could buy it and be able to dig it up all you like. Then you could explore all the claims you have made and hand the bodies you claim are there to the families of the people they belong to. The ball’s in your court, Rachel. Finance the purchase of macklin Stree. This is your chance to try to prove everything you have been claiming. In the meantime, ask your brother Andrew about why there was a house title in joint names between him, his son and John pike and why that house title was then transferred solely to Andrew’s son. It seems odd to me. You have not commented at all on the facts that your brother was inviting a known pedo into his family home to stay the night multiple times. None of that makes sense given everything you claim has happened to you both. Perhaps Mary and Dee could support a gofundme promotion for you to buy the property. It seems that would put everything to rest. In the meantime, I will speak to local town planenrs and utility companies about the tunnels you claim exist there and will report back with my findings.
From many witnesses from the gang warfare days at kings Cross decades ago, it was recorded that a woman was killed and buried in the cement under the Sydney Airport runway. Was it the duty of the sibling or friend to go an dig up Sydney Airport? No. The authorities are charged with investigating a crime. It was too expensive to follow that up. But if everyone had to do their own due investigations in all criminal cases — why do we pay for a police investigations?
No one needs to purchase a thing to investigate the property.
the police are not interested, why couldnt she purchase, if they let her, the only other way is if a developer buys it and knocks it down. Forget the police, dont you realise they are not going to do a thing, stand tall and devulged what you know , allegations only go so far.
Claire whoever you your comments suggest to me that you are part of the scumbags that do these evil things ! You will be going down too
But because police have investigated and dismissed the claims, they know there is no crime to investigate any further. In the case of Rachel claiming Louise Bell’s body was under the house in Edwardstown, fact is that someone has already been convicted of that crime, on DNA evidence. There is no connection between him and Max McIntyre whatsoever. The sharing of Rachel’s recent video on this site exposes so much of her claims as outright lies/delusions. In the video, Rachel claimed a victim of the Family murders (to which Max has no ocnnection also) was held capitive, with both herself and Louise Bell for several weeks. Yet this other victim’s body was found in very similar circumstances to other known victims of the Family murders – and nowhere near Edwarstown. There are so very many holes in her stories that anyone with commonsense would understand why police are not exploring the claims any further by digging Edwardstown, instead of bleating on about police conspiracy. It’s true that there are instances of police doing the wrong things – definitely. But all evidence points overwhelmingly, to the fact that this is not one of them. If anyone wants to present solid, irrefutable evidence, I am more than happy to look into it. So far, there is nothing.
I quote Rachel:
“no-one in the police force would listen.” Over and over she claims the police don’t follow up. Have no interest. As does Andrew.
This reminds me of the honest Denis Ryan — gave up his police pension when he chose to resign from the force after being ordered to drop his investigation…
Now Claire, you seem highly invested. There are some obviously very hurt and damaged people. Instead of denigrating Rachel… why not turn it around, and urge the police to REALLY investigate her claims. Urge them to speed up the process — NURTURE the harmed; rather than acerbate the hurt by claiming it nonsense. Imagine going after the 1000s of Royal Commission victims and saying they were delusional. Well, that’s what people did for about 3 decades.
At this stage it does not matter whether Rachels’ sane or delusional. It is the duty of authorities to attend to her claims. I hear or see no evidence of an investigation — or that “SAPOL’s response is thorough, consistent and appropriate, resulting in better outcomes for victims of crime.” (out of their handbook.)
Your actions wave a red flag.
forget the police, Clare has a point in regards to proving irrefutable evidence, there is a red flag in this story that the tunnels have not been located , i did hear Rachel say she has proof, where is it ?
Sounds to me like youve got something to hide Claire, why would you try so hard to discredit her, were you there when these things happened, why are you such a good authority on proving her claims as false, whats your connection and who are you protecting, i can only guess you are a family member in denial, her father admitted to knowing of the beaumonts, what do you rebut to those video facts? Either way i feel for the family as it is in pieces but your not alone, many are in the same position
You need to do some research Claire. My sister once owned a house in Taperoo with a member of the Kelvin family. Did no-one bother to tell you that either? Clare and Richard Kelvin’s family member also owned a business at Port Adelaide during the 1980’s. That’s when Richard went missing you know. It was called Zebra Crossing. I have photos to prove the connection.
I do not understand how what you are saying has anything to do with what I have said about your brother owning property with John Pike, Rachel. The Kelvin family knew some members of your family. Yes, I have known that. Does not change the fact that your father had nothing to do with that poor boy’s murder and makes your claims all the more upsetting – especially to members of the Kelvin family. Dee – I can no longer be bothered replying to anything else on this thread as your bleats about ‘red flags’ are so bizarre. You fail to appreciate the basics of this case. Sometimes police do not investigate because they know there is nothing worth invstigating. No conspiracy at all. You see, police have statements from the McIntyre family detailing so many things that are proven not to be true, they take all their claims with caution and have more information at hand than you do here, simply by taking Rachel’s writing as gospel. I suggest you do your research, Dee. As the publisher of such a publication, that would be the professional and ethical thing to do. If you honestly believe that Rache’s claims about Louise Bell and Richard Kelvin have even a glimmer of truth in them, it shows you have not done any research into these cases.
Nothing worth investigating?
Ditto–why not research into Bobby McIlvaine — and then lets talk about “investigations and authorities”. But I agree our discussion has run its course.
Claire? a Journalist? I don’t think so,that writing seems to be merely the writing of someone with a vendetta against the creator of this webpage
Someone forwarded me this to post: (for Claire)
https://itnjcommittee.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/ITNJ-Commission-Human-Trafficking-Child-Sex-Abuse-Dossier-ver-f.pdf
Claire, I am glad that you informed us that you are journalist. We at Gumshoenews.com have been awaiting for a journalist to do some investigating on the Port Arthur Massacre in which an innocent man, (Martin Bryant) is in jail for the rest of his life, for a crime committed by many people in authority. 35 people died that day and many more have died since, because of that killing spree.
If you are really an investigative journalist, I suggest you line up interviews with Andrew McGregor,
Stewart Beattie, Noel MacDonald (if he is still alive) and others, to get the truth of this story.
Then I challenge you to write reports in the national newspapers so that John Citizen knows that the official story is COMPLETELY false.
You seemed to be very concerned that the proper story should be told, so go to it.
Thanks Mal.
While you Aussies were asleep, the world was finding out about Oz:
Gee, I hope this doesn’t hurt tourism!!
Fiona speaks to the ITNJ:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=106962
Mary, I on the other hand, do hope it hurts tourism and any other industry. Then the sheeple may be awoken and something will be done to arrest these two legged animals. I shouldn’t call them animals. Animals don’t kill their own for the thrill or some crazy religious reason.
I don’t see why anyone would object to a real investigation into Rachel’s claim given the detail she supplies.
Fiona say’s there is a week point to the obstructors. They can dissociate with the right “inputs”.
I can’t help but think Fiona must have value still to the mk perversity studies.
Claire…..just what IS your vested interest in this case? Because you definitely have one. Its not like your family. And please dont say the truth; you dont want to risk that lightning strike.
The more evidence that comes to light – the more you seem to panic and the nastier your comments become. Why is that? You seem to expend so much energy in trying to discredit Rachael, your words virtually spit across the page – yet you say nothing! Nothing of any substance. A saying my Dad used to say ‘baffle them with bullshit’ springs to mind when I read anything from you. It’s all diversion. All I read from you is the same rehashing with the same words moved around. All I see is red flags.
Leah, unrelated to the matter at hand, i think “baffle them with bullshit” is a great phrase. Surely one can put a stop to rational brain activity that way.
If I need to credit anyone for the phrase (original with your father?) I will do so. Otherwise i shall just adopt it.
Baffle then with bullshit. Wow.
Claire, I’d like to point you to a precedent:
McMartin Preschool – 1980s
“In 1990, parents who believed their children had been abused at the preschool hired archeologist E. Gary Stickel to investigate the site. In May 1990, Stickel claimed he found evidence of tunnels, consistent with the children’s accounts, under the McMartin Preschool using ground-penetrating radar… Some of the abuse was alleged to have occurred in secret tunnels beneath the school. (Wikipedia claim no tunnels)
“But as it happens, there were tunnels, confirmed in 1993 by a team of five scientists from leading universities. The unearthing of the tunnels, like much of the critical evidence, never made it to the courtroom. They have been discreetly excluded from newspaper accounts.
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/articles/mcmartin-preschool-case-what-really-happened-and-the-coverup/
Tunnels are there Fred. Police know. A lot of people know. The only red flag in any of this comes from Claire. If you want proof do some research
where are they then?, cause no one i know knows. Whats the location Leah?
It is interesting that whenever you ask a fact-based question that could be easily answered with truth – if it existed – your questions go unanswered. Leah cannot seem to tell you where the tunnels are, Steve. And neither can Rachel.
On the contrary Claire.
But I’ll answer again as I have already answered the question; research it.
If you need me to hand hold and lead as if a child – EPA, SA Gov, the articles that have been written that state where certain entry points are, the tunnel exploring groups in SA. They are just a few and if anyone has a genuine interest they will work out the rest along the way.
Good try Claire but again, a fail
Re:- Baffle with bullshit.
Hi Mary,
Definitely adopt it. I’m sure Dad would be chuffed 😊
Thanks, Leah. Thanks, Leah’s Dad.
I wonder if animals have a way of doing it, too. Leah, you’ve got to read “Animals in Translation” by Temple Grandin. A wonderful book. She even knows how cows think!
Surly the more this hits social media it will have to be investigated. I grew up in the area and have shared your story to all I know who also live or lived in Edwardstown. Justice needs to be served. Thank you for having the courage to share. Hopefully the buyers hear your story and investigate. Are the floor plans of the house the same? If you could pin point the tunnel in your former home maybe someone will investigate.
Rachel, what corroborating allegations have your half brother and sister written?
Your sisters writings have nothing to do with yours, in fact she’s told several people that what you have been saying is simply not true, that she knows nothing about any of it, surely you shared these terrible happenings with her. She has not corroborated with you at all!!
Then we have Andrew, we’ve yet to hear from him, so how on earth do we know what he has said, all we hear are chinese whispers from his camp.
But when this much anticipated story does come out of his, lets hope you and he get your stories straight, in other words, exactly the same, because they are so different to Rs stories..
Then there is this clanger:
‘International Tribunal for Natural Justice’
They arn’t a tribunal, they’re a group of ordinary folks who probably get off on listening to tales like yours, and don’t get me started on Fionas video with them, I thought she knew it all off by heart, but those sun glasses did nothing to hide the fact that she was reading the whole thing.
Have you two got together lately just to mesh your stories together?
Have a read of this folks, not just you Rachel. All of you that want to be properly educated!
https://hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/2018/03/29/international-tribunal-for-natural-justice-will-free-the-paedophiles/
I had a read, and the the comments. Now that i’m educated, I call the site you linked “pedo protectors”. I want to get you started, why no defamation action?. The stories would mesh if the experiences of Rachel and Fiona were part of a formula, that you linked with logic.
I agree the tribunal is lame, the link is also lame. Fiona reading a script, so what, same as a affidavit.
Deni…Rachel is 18 years younger than me. She has a different mother. Rachel’s from Max’s 2nd. family. I no longer lived at that house at the same time as Rachel, thus absent when the things she states took place. Obviously in order to collaborate Rachel’s claims with regard Bell and Kelvin, I’d need to be a witness to the same events (which I’m not). I did return to that house between mid-1976 and mid 79 making us joint witnesses to a very gruesome incident in 1977, when I was then age 22, whereas Rachel was only age 4. I can say that her recall was accurate with regard to what she saw in 1977 (because I was also present). Thus we witnessed different elements of the same incident. I have simply asked that the Beaumont case be kept separate as mistakes have happened in the past, and that misinformation is then repeated and embellished upon via internet chatter, and this can damage any pending Court case and prosecutions. People also tend to confuse us and our witness accounts. Rachel and her 2 older siblings were yet to be born at the time the Beaumont children were abducted, and their bodies later taken to Macklin St. in our father’s car boot. Andrew and I (& our older sister Clare) were joint witnesses to that day’s events. Rachel has told me about her experiences over a number of years. As Max was also my abuser and I was a witness to both my sister Clare’s abuse, and Andrew’s, I’ve no reason to disbelieve what Rachel states happened to her, even if I wasn’t a witness to those incidents. It shouldn’t be too hard for people to understand that our father’s abuse didn’t stop with his first family, if according to Rachel, it continued on with his 2nd. family… I’m sure we won’t be the only example where a paedophile has inflicted abuse upon several family members, over different generations. Although I have no personal recall of sighting or being taken to any room underneath the Macklin St. house, I can add my own observations and experiences during the time I lived there, and these may well support Rachel’s claims regarding a secret room beneath the house. Re- Rachel’s testimony…What I’ve stated is incorrect in Rachel’s testimony relates to my mother’s autopsy. I have my mother’s case notes, including her autopsy results, and Colin Manock had no involvement. It’s also my understanding he didn’t resided in South Australian until after 1966. Re- removal of the ‘1982 Statute of Limitations’…It was a group of dedicated people… abuse victims, their families and advocates that collected up signatures and presented them to Parliament. This eventually resulted in the Statutes removal, allowing historical abuse victims to name their perpetrators and seek prosecution. I did what I could to assist that process via the ‘Mullighan Inquiry’. When it comes to ‘speaking up’, Rachel and I are witnesses from different time-frames, and cases, and we’re free to make our own choices in how we go about it. I’ve simply chosen a different path than Rachel. At this point I’m concentrating on having the Beaumont case resolved, and that’s only due to my being a witness.
Today Tonight once again will be the best avenue for you and siblings, i feel and pray for you all having to deal with this evil. Its not fair to you at all. stay strong, Adelaide is with you, we just need to spread the evidence for the community to be involved in justice.
Deni youre on the wrong side, seek justice
Yes definitely “have a read of this folks” and when you do maybe dig a little bit further. Afterall all you’re referring to is an opinion – an opinion written on wordspress. Theres actually some compelling articles to be found on just what or who is Hoaxstead? Has definitely been reported as fake news numerous times and there are more than just several implications of it being government backed – there’s those diversionary tactics again, guilt the victims, ridicule their experiences; you know what I’m talking about Deni. Then theres the author el coyote also known as karen irvine and who knows what else. One has to wonder why she seems to try to discredit numerous cases of children who have been sexually abused..no knowledge of course just her opinion.
What a strange comment to make “They arn’t a tribunal, they’re a group of ordinary folks who probably get off on listening to tales like yours” Get off on it? Really??
With comments like that things just become more transparent. This tribunal that isnt a tribunal with ordinary folk who probably get off on this, have included and do include among others, the odd Chief Justice and Doctors. You also fail to mention why it was formed; corruption within the systems, within the Governments, within the Courts.
Thought I’d get this in now just in case you remove your posts here as well. Included a write up about the ITNJ from the ITNJ, helps to fill in gaps you left.
“The International Tribunal for Natural Justice (ITNJ) is established to defend humanity against all fictions created by privately owned corporations which serve shareholders at the expense of people and planet.
The ITNJ is constituted to uphold natural justice as the foundational tenet of human expression beyond the artifice of borders and boundaries.
The ITNJ is purposed to apprehend the abuses and tyranny of systems and institutions whose agents act as if they are above the Law. The ITNJ intends to restore the Rule of Law, to restore common dignity and sagacity in jurisprudence, wherever such may be required to uphold the peace.” – itnj.org page
Sacha Stone, Dr. Chris Cleverly, and Rebecca Cope introduce the ITNJ which is ~ Restoring the Rule of Law ~ Where The People of the World Have Created a Truly Independent Tribunal.
“When it is revealed that the courts are not following their own rules and procedures, and the known fraud of the hidden contracts is proven and then confirmed by a higher court, the entrenched systems of domination and control will be exposed for the entire world to see. Unlawful precedents will be overturned and criminal corporations posing as governments will no longer be able to use their for-profit court systems to enforce rules and regulations that have no basis in Natural Law. Then we will begin to see stunning changes sweep our world.” ~ from the ITNJ Committee page
Listen to this message from Dr. John Walsh of Brannagh; the Chief Justice of the ITNJ.
More information can be found on:
http://itnjcommittee.org
http://www.itnj.org
Ruth – where were Danny and Simone and Sue when this event supposedly took place when you were 22 and Rachel was 4? Were they present? Because they lived in the house and say they never saw any of this. Never experienced any of it. They deny any of it ever happened. Clare is no longer here to tell her story but she also denied any abuse from Max and denied being a witness to any of what your claims say she witnessed. She said it didn’t happen. And Rachel claims both her and Andrew were trafficked via these tunnels she says are real but cannot provide any proof of? Yet you say you never saw them or knew of them. Andrew is much older than Rachel, yet she claims to know of his trafficking via this tunnel network, yet you state you have never seen any of these alleged tunnels. There are many things that don’t seem to add up with your stories. What was the gruesome incident you say you both witnessed? Were there other witnesses to it?
Clair Halliday…If Danny and Simone say they had a happy, care free childhood and came to no harm, I couldn’t be happier for them. If they saw nothing, that’s great too. As our laws require that I report the crimes I witnessed to Police, I’ve done my duty. It’s not a requirement that I scout out additional witnesses ….or that I report any incidents to you. If Andrew was trafficked via tunnels, it’s not something I’d heard of before. I’ve only now heard this from you…So you need to ask Andrew. I said to the affect, that although I don’t recall going into any room under the house, there are other things I saw or experienced while living in that house, which could well support Rachel’s claims. I made no previous comment in relation to tunnels. I can’t add any further information about their existence, if I don’t recall ever being in them myself. In my role as a witness I’ve followed all the rules required of me and I won’t be disclosing any other details to you.
Wow and the “writer” does it again. You claim to be a journalist, yet in all of your experience (which I’m not sure what exactly that is, if the one story I read of yours was an example of good,considered, and thought provoking commentary, you missed your mark) you have not gained any insight or compassion.
A parental abuser of a large family of children, will not sexually abused ALL of his children. I have 4 sisters and 1 brother, we have NEVER until in recent times discussed our abuse with each other. Me being the youngest instigated those discussions, with each individually, except one who was also an abuser of me as a very young child.
I only know my eldest sister was sexually abused by our father, as my mother (a horrible narcissist who emotionally and physically her own children). Spent too much time and energy denying her claims. She could deny and blame my sisters drug addiction for such unreal claims. Yet “HELLO!” I am here, no addiction and she and her husband had be grooming and abusing me since I was basically born.
Our entire family is estranged no surprise there, because the abuser/s pit everyone against each other. They are quite brilliant in a sick evil and totally twisted way.because at least 2 of my siblings were not abused and will defend both of those morally bankrupt cretins, because it didn’t happen to them.
Like you they are also cruel victim bashers because they really have no clue. I think you need to just stop with bullshit and come clean on why you are really all over Rachels post with your own ugly brand of venom.
Claire – dont know what it is about you that I find more offensive; your barbed rudeness or your unwarranted arrogance.
Either way it screams out you are not to be trusted
Claire / El coyote or whatever you call yourself these day’s, you seem so intent in discrediting the disturbing childhood memory’s of Rachel , It would appear that you know more about them than you are letting on , If you had any level of intelligence {DEBATABLE } then you would understand if you are hiding these crime’s before or after the fact, then you are ultimately responsible for your blatant attempt’s to hide them . And on reflection that’s the vibe i’m getting what do you think CLAIRE ???
El Coyote? Not sure what you are talking about. Yes. I do know a lot about the family. Much more than you do, having actually met them and interacted with them over many years since childhood. Ruth – if you are going to defend Rachel’s testimony here, it may be prudent to tell the truth about other certain claims she has recently made and how Rachel badgered you to tell police you wtinessed something you say you did not witness – something you say did not happen. I believe you and Rachel were fighting about it very recently, in fact? And you were very upset she was trying to tell what you believed was a lie to the police by trying to get you to say you were a witness to something you did not see. That seems worrying – and seems to support the idea that things that are being claimed did not happen the way that it is being told.
Clair Halliday…I recall you mentioning something about a ‘lie’ being told before, but in reference to a different sibling. I don’t recall exactly where I saw it, only that I didn’t understand your meaning then… and I still don’t. Just to clarify for other readers…You say you know the McIntyre family Clair, but leave out, it’s only the 2 nd. family you’re referring to…thus Max, his new wife and their 3 children. You never knew our mother Margaret & you don’t know me (or Andrew). You, nor the 3 offspring from Max’s 2 nd. family, were born when the Beaumont incident took place Jan/66. It’s the Beaumont matter that I and my brother Andrew are joint witness for, not these other cases Rachel speaks of. Much of Rachel’s witness accounts are from a time when I no longer lived in that house. I’ve explained this to you before Clair, yet you constantly hound me about Rachel’s life. You continually seek to berate, agitate and generate conflict. You create fanciful scenarios in order to divide us as siblings. You use the term ‘defend’ Rachel’s testimony, whereas I can’t add anything to her account, unless I witnessed it myself. So how does that ‘defend’ her. Rachel’s been putting her own experiences forward, and she acts independently. If I was absent from Macklin St. during much of Rachel’s childhood, there’s not really much more I can say. If I’m asked to comment, I can only relate my own experiences or make comparisons, and that’s the best I can do in support. You now make reckless allegations. You’re accusing me of lying. I don’t tell lies, and I’ve not been asked to lie about anything. Apart from the incident in 1977, I’ve no involvement in Rachel’s claims, so what are you talking about. And I haven’t spoken to her for ages, but you’re telling me otherwise. Are you inferring I’ve committed a criminal offence, done something illegal, colluded to make a false statement?
You’ve stated this involves Police, so I’m taking your words as a threat of some sort and interference in a matter I’m unaware of. I’ve no choice now but to report what you alleged of me to Police. I’ll also seek their advise or intervention re-your manipulative allegations, stalking and harassment.
Thanks Ruth.
Claire, your only agenda through this all this seems to be one of discrediting Rachel and Andrew. Now that I have spent several days with Rachel and Andrew, I would caution you to refrain — until their story is told. But maybe that’s your (or whoever’s) problem.
Dee…Thank you! As it turns out, today I did discover a message to contact Police. It was left on my phone a few days ago. I’ll endeavour to assist Police with whatever is ask of me of course. Meanwhile Clair has really stepped over the line here with her accusations, as it could be seen as a serious attempt to intimidate me during a pending criminal matter. That’s why I’ll now need to show Police what she’s published. Clair says that Rachel has badgered me to say I was a witness to something etc.. Rachel’s never done anything of the sort. Clair’s words similarly imply that Rachel’s made untrue claims, then pestered me to back her up, and act as a false witness for her. That Rachel wants me to tell Police I saw something I didn’t, thus instructing me to lie to Police. Clair’s accusations are hard enough to get my head around, but it would be even harder to fake being a witness I’d think, I can only now think Clair’s accusations relate to current Police investigations and their reason for calling me. Does Clair not realise the terrible disservice and problems she’s now created for that ‘other person’ involved, not only by publicly undermining Rachel’s abuse claim, but by threatening me, particularly if it’s discovered that the ‘other person’ involved, asked her to do it.
This is a serious Police matter. I doubt they’ll approve of Clair Halliday interfering with their investigation.
Ruth, I have been shocked by the social media type commentary.
Dee…I agree..and it’s not hard to see how the wrong words can start world wars is it! I’ve had plenty of bother from Ms. Halliday and similar toxic ‘troll’ behaviour before. It puts me off saying too much, and it must be remembered that I’ve no obligation to share details and information. Some people can be very unkind, and you understand why so many choose to remain silent about their abuse. Fearful of other people’s judgements and the risk of being targeted, stalked and bullied across the internet. Some only see a wounded creature, then pursue with an aim to kill (emotionally with their words). There are predatory people lurking on the internet for sure, but there are so many magnificent ones too…Admin must find it sometimes difficult maintaining that balance, but ultimately what get’s published, is down to them. In the end I have to decide how I want to be treated, whether it’s in ‘real life’ terms or in cyber space. My trust has been betrayed so often that I now choose to stick with only those I know and proven themselves trustworthy …and it helps that I can speak to them in person. I / we progress matters quietly behind the scenes these days, and some things are better kept off the Net obviously. Not everything needs to be shared! So in keeping with that spirit of ‘oversharing’, Ms. Halliday should return to ‘Journalist School’, collect the prize for ‘saying dumb things that are sure to wreck your career’ and think before she prints in future.
Oh stop Ruthy You worked on the property but just so happens you forgot about the so called Beaumont’s in the Well ? please spare me the BS WHy don’t you say the truth on who your eldest brother is ?? YOU ALL TELL BED TIME STORIES …… YAWN !!! Your last name s the laughing stock of social media …. Go to cops – try for defaming charges while your at it charge your sister & Andrew perhaps ?? Why don’t you all tell the world what you all really say behind closed doors. What really happened behind closed doors eh ?? Your an appalling pitiful dysfunctional mess of a family. Your lies just drip from your mouths ….
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Ruthy MAX Asked you to stop the nonsense remember ? HE WAS SHATTERED YOU EXPLOITED IT AND LIED !! Fact is you couldn’t handle Max new partner & jealousy struck you down – YOU USED THE PROPERTY WITH NOT A PROBLEM FOR FINANCIAL GAIN ! YOU NEVER ONCE REMEMBERED THE WELL !! The fact is Ruthy YOUR FATHER NEVER HURT YOU !! HOWEVER WE KNOW WHO DID EH ? YOU HAVE RUINED THE NAME AND YOU WILL NEVER BE FORGIVEN BY THE FAMILY !!! YOU , RACHEL , ANDREW !!!
That’s Fine Dee don’t post my comments. I have everything you need to read the truth. From mental health assessments, police reports – stat decs.
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