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An International Criminal Court Should Be Run by Laypersons, If at All

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(L) Dr Mohammad Mahathir, (C)  Rev Kevin Annett, (R) ICC Prosecutor Fatou Bensouda

by Mary W Maxwell, LLB

On June 11, 2020, President Trump issued an executive order to interfere with financial transactions by foreigners engaged, for the ICC, in probing US war crimes in Afghanistan. Mark Esper, US Secretary of Defense, has stated: “This administration will not allow American citizens who have served our country to be subjected to illegitimate investigations.”

Part 1 of this article contains a very brief outline of international courts: the ICJ and the ICC, plus tribunals, such as Kevin Annett’s International Tribunal for Crimes of Church and State and the tribunal held in Malaysia over the crimes against Iraq, committed mostly by the US and UK.

Part 2 will list the specific crimes that the ICC is authorized, by its member states, to prosecute. Part 3 contains my commentary.

Part 1 – International Courts

The League of Nations was formed in 1920 after the Treaty of Versailles that disposed of some issues regarding the end of World War I. It had 63 members (states).  The League had no court and mechanism for punishing war crimes (although war crimes were already on the books via the Hague Convention of 1908). When Japan, a member of the League, was criticized by members for invading China in 1934, she simply withdrew from membership.

The UN, formed in 1945, has a judicial adjunct, the ICJ – the International Court of Justice. No one except a state can approach that court as a plaintiff. Some citizens have believed the ICJ could stick up for human rights. No.

In 1989 Nicaragua filed a case against the US for the mining of the harbor in its capital city Managua when these two countries were not at war. The ICJ found in favor of the plaintiff.  The defendant the “did a Japan” and walked out, giving up its membership in this unique court.

In 1998, many countries, including the US, made a treaty, oddly named the Rome Statute, which became the basis of the ICC, International Criminal Court. Its purpose is to police the world for war crimes, as listed below. The US did not ratify the treaty and is not now a member. The UK and Australia are members as are all the EU states.

The ICC came into force on July 1, 2002 and covers only crimes committed after that date. Anyone can approach that court to request that it investigate a war crime. The kicker is that the requests will first be passed on to the UN Security Council for an opinion and this means that the permanent members of the UNSC are effectively protected from being prosecuted.

Kevin Annett, on his own initiative, founded a group, the ITCCs – International Tribunal for Crimes of Church and State. He had learned that many children were killed while in the care of the residential schools for First Nations children. His method consists of holding a grand jury, composed of volunteers, who look into a matter.

If they write up an indictment, they also issue “downloadable” arrest warrants for the accused, and tell the world that if you see one of these persons, you should citizen-arrest them. Annett reports success in at least two cases: he claims that his ITCCS people prevented a ritual murder from taking place by The Ninth Circle in London, and that his issuing of an arrest warrant for Pope Benedict XVI is what caused that pope to resign.

Under Malaysia’s former prime minister Dr Mohammad Mahathir, a private tribunal was formed, and met in November 2011 — the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal, the KLWCT. Having accused George W Bush and Tony Blair of war crimes the tribunal invited those men to defend themselves.  When no reply was received, the KLWCT provided counsel to act as defense.  At trial, both Bush and Blair were found guilty. (Note: the UK is still a member of  the ICC.)

Part 2 — Catalogue of Crimes Used by the ICC

The ICC had now been running for 18 years. When it began, it named three core crimes – genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity. It also said that at a future date it would prosecute the crime of aggression – which is a main crime for which German and Japanese leaders were convicted at the Nuremberg and Tokyo trials that followed World War II. “Aggression” is the crime of starting a war.

I shall now give the official text, verbatim, of the Rome Statute on genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes, and the crime of aggression, as used by the ICC. The person to be indicted is a leader, not the state itself.

Article 6 Genocide

For the purpose of this Statute, “genocide” means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Article 7 Crimes against humanity

  1. For the purpose of this Statute, “crime against humanity” means any of the following acts when committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against any civilian population, with knowledge of the attack:

(a) Murder;

(b) Extermination;

(c) Enslavement;

(d) Deportation or forcible transfer of population;

(e) Imprisonment or other severe deprivation of physical liberty in violation of fundamental rules of international law;

(f) Torture;

(g) Rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, forced pregnancy, enforced sterilization, or any other form of sexual violence of comparable gravity;

(h) Persecution against any identifiable group or collectivity on political, racial, national, ethnic, cultural, religious, gender as defined in paragraph 3, or other grounds that are universally recognized as impermissible under international law, in connection with any act referred to in this paragraph or any crime within the jurisdiction of the Court;

(i) Enforced disappearance of persons;

(j) The crime of apartheid;

(k) Other inhumane acts of a similar character intentionally causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or to mental or physical health.

Article 8 War crimes

  1. The Court shall have jurisdiction in respect of war crimes in particular when committed as part of a plan or policy or as part of a large-scale commission of such crimes.
  2. For the purpose of this Statute, “war crimes” means:

(a) Grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, namely, any of the following acts against persons or property protected under the provisions of the relevant Geneva Convention:

(i) Wilful killing;

(ii) Torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments;

(iii) Wilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health;

(iv) Extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly;

(v) Compelling a prisoner of war or other protected person to serve in the forces of a hostile Power;

(vi) Wilfully depriving a prisoner of war or other protected person of the rights of fair and regular trial;

(vii) Unlawful deportation or transfer or unlawful confinement; (viii) Taking of hostages.

(b) Other serious violations of the laws and customs applicable in international armed conflict, within the established framework of international law, namely, any of the following acts:

(i) Intentionally directing attacks against the civilian population as such or against individual civilians not taking direct part in hostilities;

(ii) Intentionally directing attacks against civilian objects, that is, objects which are not military objectives; …

(iv) Intentionally launching an attack in the knowledge that such attack will cause incidental loss of life or injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects or widespread, long-term and severe damage to the natural environment which would be clearly excessive in relation to the concrete and direct overall military advantage anticipated; …

(ix) Intentionally directing attacks against buildings dedicated to religion, education, art, science or charitable purposes, historic monuments, hospitals and places where the sick and wounded are collected, provided they are not military objectives;

(x) Subjecting persons who are in the power of an adverse party to physical mutilation or to medical or scientific experiments of any kind… , and which cause death to or seriously endanger the health of such person or persons; …

(xii) Declaring that no quarter will be given;

(xiii) Destroying or seizing the enemy’s property unless such destruction or seizure be imperatively demanded by the necessities of war; …

(xvii) Employing poison or poisoned weapons;

(xviii) Employing asphyxiating, poisonous or other gases, and all analogous liquids, materials or devices; Employing bullets which expand or flatten easily in the human body, such as bullets with a hard envelope which does not entirely cover the core or is pierced with incisions; …

(xxi) Committing outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment; (xxii) Committing rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution….

(xxv) Intentionally using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare by depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival, …

(xxvi) Conscripting or enlisting children under the age of fifteen years into the national armed forces or using them to participate actively in hostilities.

Article 8 Crime of aggression

  1. For the purpose of this Statute, “crime of aggression” means the planning, preparation, initiation or execution, by a person in a position effectively to exercise control over or to direct the political or military action of a State, of an act of aggression which, by its character, gravity and scale, constitutes a manifest violation of the Charter of the United Nations.
  2. For the purpose of paragraph 1, “act of aggression” means the use of armed force by a State against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of another State, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Charter of the United Nations….

Part 3 – Comments on the ICC

The International Criminal Court has 18 judges; they sit at The Hague, Netherlands. There are 123 members states at the moment. The US and Israel did not join, not did Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Qatar, and China. Russia signed but never ratified and in 2016, facing criticism about Ukraine, she withdrew. Burundi withdrew from the ICC in 2017 and the Philippines intends to withdraw.

Africans have been the main quarry of the ICC prosecutors.

Louise Mushikiwabo, Foreign Minister of Rwanda, has asked “Where is a white man convicted by the ICC?”

(L) Jean-Pierre Bemba, Democratic Republic of Congo (R) Thomas Lubanga, Head of Forces for the Liberation of Congo

*In 2012 Thomas Lubanga of Congo was convicted of enlisting child soldiers.

*In 2016, Jean-Pierre Bemba, Congo’s former vice-president was convicted by the ICC for failing to keep his forces from raping and killing civilians in Central African Republic in 2002-2003, but this was overturned at appeals. In 2018 Bemba ended up with a one-year suspended sentence and a fine of $350,000) for witness-tampering.

A former president of the Ivory Coast was also tried but was acquitted in 2019.

*In 2016, the ICC sentenced Ahmad al-Faqi al Mahdi of North Africa after he pleaded guilty to the war crime of destruction of cultural heritage (religious and historic monuments) in Mali.

*In 2009, two Congolese were tried. One of them, Germain Katanga was convicted “as an accessory to one count of a crime against humanity, namely murder, plus counts of war crimes — murder, attacking a civilian population, destruction of property and pillaging. His crimes took place in 2003 – the same year as US and Australia invaded Iraq.

In general, I hold the position that law should be enforced — when I hear that high-level people are acting with impunity, I blame us citizens for the fact that we let them get away with it. But that is for domestic law. For so-called “international law,” I have been writing since 1990 that it is not real law. It has no enforcer. Think about it: who could successfully prosecute a powerful nation? Who would wield the handcuffs?

I feel certain that promises to sort out nations’ war crimes internationally can never work. (See my 1990 book, Morality among Nations.) It is well recognized that the trials run by the US and USSR for crimes committed by Germans and Japanese in WWII were “victor’s justice.”

AS it contains no mechanism for dealing with the power relationship among nations, the ICC should be abandoned. The Kevin Annett method or the Mahathir method has much more hope of success.  That is, tribunals for crimes against humanity should be run by laypeople, not by governments.

The United States’ Stance on the ICC

On June 11, 2020 President Trump issued an executive order:

“I therefore determine that any attempt by the ICC to investigate, arrest, detain, or prosecute any United States personnel without the consent of the United States, or of personnel of countries that are United States allies and who are not parties to the Rome Statute or have not otherwise consented to ICC jurisdiction, constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States, and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat. I hereby determine and order:

“Section 1. (a) All property and interests in property that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of any United States person, of the following persons are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in….”

I imagine such a move will make the US look ridiculous (and guilty), but I agree that the ICC has no jurisdiction over the US. I also believe, as an American, that we should enforce, domestically, our laws against war crimes.

The 1996 War Crimes Act is codified at 18 USC 2441.  It holds:

“(a) Offense.—   Whoever, whether inside or outside the United States, commits a war crime, in any of the circumstances described in subsection (b), shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both, and if death results to the victim, shall also be subject to the penalty of death.

(b) Circumstances.—   The circumstances referred to in subsection (a) are that the person committing such war crime or the victim of such war crime is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 101 of the Immigration and Nationality Act).

(c) Definition.—As used in this section the term “war crime” means any conduct—   (1) defined as a grave breach in any of the international conventions signed at Geneva 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party….”

And don’t forget 18 USC 175 regarding bioweapons:

“Whoever knowingly develops, produces, stockpiles, transfers, acquires, retains, or possesses any biological agent, toxin, or delivery system for use as a weapon, or knowingly assists a foreign state or any organization to do so, or attempts, threatens, or conspires to do the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both. There is extraterritorial Federal jurisdiction over an offense under this section committed by or against a national of the United States.”

I ask: What are we waiting for?

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  1. In this video from ten years ago, Julian says that he thinks the Wikileaks documents on the US war in Afghanistan belong to the Afghan people.

    You go, Julian.

    • The history behind the UN and what is really represents is something I’m finding to be unlikable. Its part of everything that’s going on right now in my opinion. I don’t feel that Trump is the hero we’ve been told to believe. Why? First off, this 4th of July is the most depressing day ever. But, lets go to a court case in Australia. It was regarding the Sovereignty of their Country and the coup, contacted to the CYA and her unmajestic Queen Elizabeths MI5. OUR DUMBARSE CYA.. This information came out in an Australian newspaper. Along with it came information on Trump and his investments in UK Tech for track and trace software, etc. So. Someone over here had knowledge about our “corona “. He’s also a 33rd degree Scottish Rite Freemason. Queen Elizabeth gave Trump or Knighted into the Arther Round Table. Considered the highest level of Freemasonary. There’s more than that regarding Trump., but it seems that Pope Francis is a Jesuit. And is guilty of murders during the Argentina Dirty War.. Kevin has talked all about this. See, on the illuminati pyramid, the Pope is the Governor of the world. Per their New World Order. Everything you’ve been watching on the news with BLM, the requirement of a face mask, and the kneeling. Is sigel magic. Pope Francis made a declaration for everyone to get down on bended knee to UN. Nexr couple of weeks, boom, the BLM and Pelosi crew wore their tribal scarves and kneeled. THATwas Francis. Just as the mysterious note was sent out Emmanuela Orlandis family pointing to the the crypts of the two buried princesses, in the Knights Teutonic cemetery in Vatican. Emmanuela had disappeared in 1984 while her family lived in VATICAN. Pope John Paul had somethjng to do with it. Everything Pope Paul did that year, with trying to bring about a one world religion. Look at the coverage and compare it to Francis and his pachamama.. Opening the crypts they found all those CHILDRENS bones. The princess was named Sophia. Which is Baphamets girlfriend or something. Lizzy is a Knight of Malta. Malta is where all the intel agencies are knighted after training. Its a CULT, The dress garb thy wear is EXACTLY like what they wore at Cibolo Creek where Justice Scalia “died of heart attack “. Poindexter who owns the ranch, was involved in the cover up of the Iran Contra and Savings and Loan scandal. Theres just so much. George Bush Sr. Grandfather, ran AUSHWITZ. Its all on legal docs. NO. Do not go Rome. Thats what the UN was established for. To bring back Canon laws. Where you have zero rights. And this evil, rules.
      I’d love to talk to Kevin. There’s alot that might be everyone’s new Exodus. Our children are on their hit list. Prayers to God. Is our most important part of it.

  3. At 1.10 the Prosecutor (in 2016) says the CIA may have tortured detainees in Poland, Romania, and Lithuania (as in rendition).

    To be precise, she did not say Torture, she said cruel methods. Whatever. We know what it is.

  4. I think you are heading in the right direction, Mary, but select groups are without natural balance, civilian or otherwise. A case in point: if Aboriginal groups were permitted to prosecute police and prison guards for deaths in custody, which they claimed were proved by the Royal Commission, there would be multitudinous miscarriages of justice. In all probability, there would be lynch mobs.

    What did the $80 million Royal Commission of Inquiry Commissioners actually find in their judgement?

    I quote verbatim…

    • “The conclusions reached in this report will not accord with the expectations of those who anticipated that the findings of foul play would be inevitable and frequent. That is not the conclusion which the Commissioners reached. As reported in the individual case reports which have been released, Commissioners did not find that deaths were the product of deliberate violence or brutality by the Police or Prison Officers”. (1.2.2)

    • “The work of the Commission has established that Aboriginal people in custody do not die at a greater rate than non-Aboriginal people in custody”.

    Yet not one Aborigine, nor journalist, nor school teacher, nor politician, nor lawyer, nor judge, nor magistrate, has pointed out that the world’s unanimous belief in ‘guilty as charged’, is in fact a monstrous and orchestrated fabrication.

    A primary culprit is Rupert Murdoch. Work out for yourself why he would do such a thing.

    The same applies to the Stolen Generation. In the NT, as far as I am aware, I am the only person who read all welfare intervention files and not in one instance was there a case of intervention that would not have secured public approval under the values of the day. It appears that other state governments also played no active part in unjustified interventions. However, I recently discovered that a convoy of black vehicles, looking very official, but driven by evangelical Christians, would periodically travel from Queensland to the NT and confiscate children. A child of one of those stolen is my best friend.

    Yet a grandstanding Kevin Rudd delivered a Sorry on behalf of the nation. As far as documentary evidence is concerned, the nation played no part in this and the real perpetrators got off Scot free.

    My point is, Mary, that judgement must be formal and be on behalf of the entire nation, as represented by volunteer advisory councils of unlimited membership. That, and only that, can eliminate manipulation, evidence tampering, witness intimidation, and corruption.

    • Tonyyy! I acknowledge that there are many crimes committed by all sorts of perverse people of many and diverse “ethnic” backgrounds but your continued insinuation that such crimes are only crimes if committed, or attributed to, nominally Christian European types that is endorsed by a well known Synagogue. I know very well by the first hand testimony of the “bush people” that rape, murder, child abuse, ritual murder and cannibalism were “culturally acceptable” in the “noble savage” of North Western Australia.

      However, it’s only the “ignoble savages” of the eugenicist Judaeo-Masonic/ Darwinist “enlightenment” that are paraded as the face of Christendom. I will contend that your “humanitarian” rhetoric is only a disguise for your Christophobia and Theophobia.

      If you are a follower of the “Darwinist” notion that Nothing is relentlessly turning itself into Everything then tell us why the Abos should not be exterminated as a useless vestige of the “evolutionary process”.

      • David… Compare your second-hand opinion with my half-century of immersion in that culture; and taking into account that my conversations are in Wangurri and Djambarrpuyngu languages; and notwithstanding the decade of associated research undertaken as an employee of the Commonwealth and NT Governments; I suspect most people would decide my credibility somewhat outdistances yours.

        I can state categorically that no mainland Aboriginal tribe engaged in child abuse or cannibalism. And comparing death sentences of disparate cultures by only one value system is pretty gross, even for you.

        As for your claim I am biased against Christianity; so too I suppose, is Margaret Humphries and her investigations that exposed Anglican, Methodist, and Presbyterian theft of 65,000 English children, selling them into slavery and sexual abuse in Rhodesia, Australia, and Canada. (Read “Empty Cradles”, and update the figure to 53,000).

        And not ignoring the Royal Commission that exposed Catholic priest sexual abuse by the thousands; or the current Pope’s continued protection of perpetrators.

        I bet Pell is happy to have people like you around to paint him white (as in sepulchers).

        Meanwhile, many Christians also are aghast at these discoveries.

        My own personal bitch is that most Christians refuse to believe most of this extends into the future. “That was then”, they cry, “we are not like that now”. This is 100% enabling behavior.

        • My “second hand opinion” was, in fact, the first hand testimonies of the very people involved; both the victims and the perpetrators.

          I admit that my short two year exposure to the “culture” did not make me fluent in the “Kwini” “Kulari” or “Wlaamabi” dialects present in the community but we did make some real friends and enemies that were both very guarded in their comments and descriptions.

          Whatever George Pell may or may not have done (and I think that the likes of you just hate him because he stood up against some “New Age” perversions) he was not promoting the sort of “culture” that could only produce a few hundred warring and impoverished family groups in about 4000 years max.

          One of the first entries in the diaries of the Spaniards that were sent to the end of the Earth to help these “pooer peepel” (my rendition of the Spanish accent) was “where are the children? Why are there almost no children?”.

          Another hundred years of arguments and disputes with the “indigenous culture” left no doubt. They were way ahead of “The New World Order” by making sure that only the useful and convenient subservient survive.

          I remarked back in about 1980 that “these people are just emerging from the darkness that the Western World is descending into”. I was wrong. We’re all farkt if no one cares about truth and virtue.

  5. “What did the $80 million Royal Commission of Inquiry Commissioners actually find in their judgement?”

    Tony, I represented one of the fellows that died in custody. His name was Clary Nean at Walgett. The police had him in custody to work off his time as he had been busted for multiple small crimes before and had been sentenced to two weeks in prison. The police left his cell door unlocked and he worked around the police station. Clary indicated that he needed blood pressure medication, so the police went out to the Namoi reservation to get the medication. The people on the reservation refused to work with the police.

    Clary was washing a police vehicle and suffered a sub-dural hemorrhage (brain hemorrhage from high blood pressure). The police got him to the hospital as quickly as possible, but he died later that day.

    Anyway, after reading all the medical and police reports I cross-examined the Sargent in charge fairly rigorously, which made the Judge (Hal Wootten) and the counsel assisting (Bob Bellear) a bit nervous of where I was going. I then cross-examined the Sargent about his taking of medical particulars and the training he received. At that point Hal figured out where I was going and started taking a bunch of notes. The Sargent figured it out to and smiled at me as he left the witness stand.

    The upshot of it all was that the police are now required to take medical particulars when taking someone into custody. So, the ‘Deaths in Custody’ was not an entire waste of tax-payers money and I admit I did like the pay I received for my short time during that Royal Commission.

    • That bit of commonsense advice cost $80 million. I’m sure we can do better than that, Terry LOL.

      Meanwhile, the BLM activists are now saying that black people should not receive custodial sentences but it is OK that white people do. If this is not racism I dunno what is, yet it was one of the Royal Commission recommendations.

      Personally, I believe no people should serve custodial sentences for failure to pay fines. Why could not the BLM protestors have said that? I am known as a supporter for the Aboriginal cause but I will not tolerate racism by anybody, black, white or yellow.

      • Good for you Tony. When people of all colour realise collectively and unite against those who are behind all this elitism, racial division and historical slavery and human trafficking to this day there will be no place for them to hide.

        Dana Ashlie gives a good, balanced account of real history

        The privilege they erased from history – Dana Ashlie

        and if was ever a colour or racial thing [think Albert Pike] we would not have people like Professor Tony Martin or Louis Farrakhan telling it like it actually was … Or for that matter people like Officer (Brandon) Tatum telling it like it is.

  6. Mary , the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal (KLWCT) was not just about accusations levelled at George W Bush and Tony Blair :

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/kuala-lumpur-tribunal-finds-israel-guilty-of-crimes-against-humanity-genocide/5359404

    And, after the ruling (in November 2013) that the state of Israel / IDF was found guilty of war crimes , the Zio-cabal didn’t take too kindly to that.

    As retribution , what punishment was meted out soon thereafter to make an example of Malaysia for having the audacity to expose the crimes of the Apartheid Israeli state ( and to serve as an example for any other country in future that dared to venture down that path) ?

    You guessed it – MH370 ( March 2014) , and MH17 ( July 2014 ).

    Using its subsidiary organisation (Serco) , the Zio-cabal arranged for MH370 to be commandeered remotely and landed on the U.S military base in Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean .
    Similarly , using their tremendous clout , the Zio-cabal ‘arranged’ it so that Ukrainian Air Traffic Control purposely detoured MH17 into a war zone in eastern Ukraine (in contrast to EVERY other commercial flight either before or after that travelled a different course , well away from this war zone ).

    • Or they just landed at Johns Company, Butterworth. Our radar there, having the first bite so to speak. The conspiracy gets some help in hiding in the folds of description. Get what you say of course but recommend mixing the language so your message does not get bogged down, on their turf. Plenty of people here in Oz to blame too, show us the intel, we paid for it and deserve a refund if it does not exist. Good nite radar suppliers.

    • Thank you for the correction, Troof — although I did not meant to say Bush and Blair were the only ones. I now quote from your link:

      “The Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal (KLWCT) today found former Israeli army general Amos Yaron and the state of Israel guilty of crimes against humanity and genocide stemming from the massacre of Palestinians in Beirut’s Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in 1982.”

      For the record, a find that a state (Israel) was guilty would not work with the ICC. They only go for individuals. Hence maybe they would find Amos Yaron guilty, but since that crime occurred in 1982, it could not be an ICC thing. The cutoff date is 2002, I think.

      Also I forgot to say in my article that 2017 is the earliest year for which the ICC can accuse anyone of the crime of aggression (making war). That crime did not get added to the ICC’s bailiwick until a vote by members in 2017.

      When I heard in 2002 that the signatories to the Rome Statute promised that “someday” they may add the crime of aggression, I said “Oh yeah, and pigs will fly,”

      Pigs flew!

  7. Untruth Veggie, I know that pining for Jennifer Marohasy and Judith Curry is affecting your judgement as various climate time series display values more than 2 standard deviations from historical norms.

    It is called mango madness or going troppo in Katherine NT. Seems to affect you in Sydney too.

    But do not try to second guess MH 370 and MH17 researchers. You have no strong evidence for what you allege.

    If eg the recent Dutch filmmakers who visited Malaysia for their film had had it, they would say so.

    So would other researchers. James O Neill did not come out with your false certainty in his recent Gumshoe article.

    Or have you viewed the US satellite footage which John Kerry admitted to but never released, or where is your smoking gun?

    Personally I find the Diego Garcia story plausible because of the flight route described by the Andaman Island fishermen at dawn, I believe. They described the airline colours on the fuselage too. Their own govt. rapidly disowned their testimony.

    • Of course Scotus , the Dutch film-makers , like the Dutch government that has been so forthcoming in the investigation of MH17 and in its relentless pursuit to expose the truth of the matter , we know for certainty that THEY will always tell it like it is.

  8. I am here to quarrel with Tony’s remark “I can state categorically that no mainland Aboriginal tribe engaged in child abuse.”

    Tony, it is very hard to prove a negative. You don’t know what you don’t know (if you know what I mean). Child abuse could be out there and no one has uncovered it.

    Gumshoe has been astonished at the commonness of child abuse. And at the average citizen’s complete unawareness of it.

    • https://austhrutime.com/aboriginal_mortuary_rites_cannibalism.htm

      Check the above for the falsity of Ryans allegation that no mainland tribe engaged in cannibalism. However Elkin and the Berndts are now dead and the self-styled aborigine Bruce Pascoe lives, and peddles his lies by omission in Dark Emu and on the ABC, shortly.

      10,000 years ago indigenous British whites, – that is, the geographic predecessors of most reading this blog if not their genetic ancestors, given the double population replacement by Anatolian farmers and Yamnaya around 7,000 and 2,000 BC – were also cannibals, as one sees from cut and scraped human bones.

      It is ironic how currently, it is seen to be racist and immoral to state facts about hunter-gathe rer cultures which up till recently were taken to be self-evident.

      • There are of course times of need of circumstance choices made, for food. Ban soccer players on that logic you running and you take the plush stadium. You can then eat human embryonic kidney cause its just a clone of history.
        My secondary schooling postulated the New Guinean laughing sickness halted those tribes progress. Like inbredding, scientific, so the longevity of line has no logic in that context agreed long time span.
        The issue as I see it, were these things endemic. I don’t know what a 10,000 year old British white is. I’m kinda maybe William the Conquer, tad of Celt, who knows a bit of Gaul. By look you would say, to hazard a guess since your them flipping around , yes.
        Our linage is questionable as you say, the people that have stood on this land so very long, more so by reletive time , we agree.

        Human sacrifice, child abuse in this place NOW should outrage any typical human.
        The idea of Terra Nullus should to. Think Twiggy Forest and company would hand up all
        the horrifying evidence before removing these evidence’s, of degeneacy That seems to help him and like make yet another $12.50 Some law thing about the heavier burden on the self evident too.
        My self-evident and yours are clearly different.
        Wanted to genuinely engage with a Duns comment, don’t think anyone asked you to take a knee, did they?

        This what happened here, was a war crime, no way around it.
        Thank-you for contributing to this conversation as/is clearly aways on topic.
        Live by the demonisation sword, and ignore the unbelievable endemic child abuse reality, as volumes reported here.

        I have heard stories too, but they lead me to wonder how the small-pox immunity was so slow on the uptake, chomping away as foolishly, we only wanted the gold. Also seen things conflicting with the very idea of sovereignty, privacy and justice that I’ve heard mentioned, as rights we want, benefit on the doubt.

    • [quote Magnificent Mary] Child abuse could be out there and no one has uncovered it.[/quote]

      Child abuse is presently viewed as a heinous crime. However, it is entirely ethno-specific. Only supposed apparent Catholics, and to a lesser extent other “Christians” are ever presumed guilty of such abominations as other perpetrators are officially, institutionally protected or exempt on cultural or ethnic “customs”.

      Now, I would like that supposed “Catholics” (priests, popes and all) be seriously tested as to whether they are really Christians or Freemasons. The two are mutually exclusive.

      Yair, I know, the blardy Judaeo-Masonic secretocracy holds a stacked deck of “useful idiots” in every level of society. But, but! it’s not the end of the story! I can still vaguely remember the abject arrogance of my “enlightened” adolescence. I still hope that there are many young men out there tossed to and fro on a stormy sea of conflicting opinions that can find that purpose greater than their physical desires; the love of something greater than self.

  9. For humorous relief, no need to hunt flaming crows, I know most have good hearts and motivations in that place. The hand play’s you like everyone else. The Grantham bits are not funny and a tragedy, history I do not want repeated. Even if the guilty are later court.

    This below current link has a requests help for logistical support from the war department(think the acronym ADF)

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-29/victorian-coronavirus-second-peak-melbourne-hotspots/12402126

    Hope they(our saviours) can find their way around, I remember the qld’s floods circa 2011(have to be vague because they were 1 in 500 hundred years so unforeseeable) though Ana Blight just having purchased Siamese bogging(rain) technology, had to leave and not help area’s like Grantham because the GPS was of a military grade and they could not hang around because blackhawks contrary to their name do not operate after dark. They have great landing lights near the capital now, maybe as a result of those shortcomings.
    But at least they are home, and close to barracks. If we can get them there because we are not at war, where they no doubt would find the armoury locked down and still of no utility to our contract(layman’s interpretation of course).

    Bubble bubble toil and trouble from this stirrer. Just pulling the Forsters, Graham Kennedy style.

    • No, Dee. This video is deceptive. Congress often passes a resolution to honor someone, such as “Naming May 22, 2005 “Eagle Scout” education Day.

      It mean nothing. Don’t waste your time on it.

    • Video worthy of the table, it does play on their turf and thought the Noah 7 proceeded the Moses 10, my thoughts only.

      Our laws can not even remove the top of a rice pudding. Everyone gets cognitive disconence. If your free you can choose to retune.

      Don’t think Trump has/or wants choice.
      When in Rome… seems he certainly does not want choice for anyone else. Mud men need the swamp – sorry I’m a simple man.

      Maybe everyone is their own great deceiver, because these clowns don’t go close.

      Congress, now thats a waste of time, for the living.The payola unique/fabulous and they can take it with them.

  11. In the United Nations of Australia, under Khazarian jurisdiction, law only protects the select few.
    Everyone else, be they born here or just got off the plane, are equally in the same boat. We have no bill of rights. Don’t waste your time in courts, they will take everything and more. After leaving you broken and broke, they will part with kindly advice that is usually to “get over it.”
    Here, even if you win you lose, cause the perpetraitors never pay. It’s a gravy train for connected only and if you’re not in you’re out.
    Oz is a communist debt slaves gulag. Will be a relief if someone can prove otherwise.

      • Call me a fuddy-dud but I do not approve of that heavily photo-shopped photo and would not have uploaded the video if I thought it had that cover.

        Sometimes you don’t know what cover it is going to have.

        • You can be surprising but never a dud. First thing I noticed of course, thought I would have gone with black eye ball and some Grecian 2000(purple rinse) for royalty. Is this the true origin of taking the knee. We duds thee Sir above the law.

          Cover checked, 2 seconds, then nearly 22 minutes of on topic.
          Great pick Aunt Fuddy (thats a genuine, great pick) and apt. We will only get the evidence after they fall on their swords. The horse will have to push the cart till then, like 911, a porsche going round the benz, buckle up(the last sentence was self indulgent German thing, like er indoors, just disregard like a Rothschild’s would).

          • Hi Eddy,
            we were all victims, one way or another. I avoided the ped, cause of a 6th sense. He got got me some canings and years of trouble. Later found out he had dinner with classmates family, said I was the most likely pupil to end up in jail. Never new, but I knew something was afoot. Took many years, but it was him in the hole. I knew other teachers were aware, but the cone of silence. No one believes me at first, even family but eventually.
            Private part boarding boys school on the upper north shore of Sydney, happy to name it, but you first. Spelling was important there so of course I could care less, but notice these things.

    • Queen knighted Sir Mick Jagger 2003 not sure why, in the 60’s the band were constantly in trouble for drugs, they were “interested in” satanism, the bass player got dumped in the 90’s for pedophilia, recently Sir Mick got a 20-something wife (he is about 80) and had even more kids added to his virtual harem output, well, strange how Queen knighted this person.
      Obviously not Australian like Rolf Harris or he might have been put in the slammer instead.

      • Yep, connected. Sir Bob Geldof, gets the use of the honour and still pretends to be Irish.
        Another African exploiter, you can connect a lot of these dehuman’s through African helpers. unicef , oxfam , tax free charities. You would think at some point, someone would ask, why is it the more you help Africans the worst their plight becomes.
        One phone call, no Michael Hutchence half a world away.
        The Queen knights them for services to the crown, Sir James Saville also Freeman which is typical also a green beret.
        Seems important they die with honours, Emperor Hirohito was stripped but reallocated before his demise.
        Endless, there is the order colour/sash holders like Ned Kelly who fights in knight armour with green sash. Played in a movie …… by Mick Jagger.
        Its a disturbing rabbit hole, its very deep. I can cut to the chase if you want, but dig around first.
        Do not make a deal, do not yield, do not understand-become aware and be very careful

        • Yes Simon, and not only that BUT ABSOLUTELY;:
          Ephesians 6:
          11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

          AND “having done so to stand” – careful is good Simon – prepared with adequate defenses to reject your REAL attacker is MUCH better. You MUST know who IT actually is and not be drafted by his minions..

  13. “Annett reports success in at least two cases”

    The role of a court In any functional society is arbitration, judgement & sentencing,end of story.
    There’s no scope for the beneficence of such a process to be measured in terms of the success or failure of preventative strategies, in fact the very idea is rooted in the lawlessness of the Age

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