By James O’Neill*
In October 2001 the United States, together with a number of Allied countries including Australia, attacked Afghanistan. The Taliban government of the country was rapidly defeated by the superior military force of the United States and its allies.
The ostensible reason for the invasion was the alleged refusal of the Afghan government to hand over to the United States the Saudi national Osama bin Laden. The Americans accused him of being the organiser of the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington DC that had occurred on 11 September of that year. Bin Laden denied any responsibility for the events of “9/11”.
The Taliban government, not unreasonably, asked for evidence of bin Laden’s culpability. If that was provided they would hand him over to an international body for trial. The evidence was never provided. There are a number of reasons for the absence of evidence, although neither the United States government nor any other organisation has ever provided evidence of bin Laden’s culpability.
The issue was in any case academic. The American decision to invade Afghanistan had in fact been taken months before the events of 9/11. That fully documented fact has never been published in mainstream western media
The real reason for the United States invasion had a series of other motives, the evidence for which has been obvious since the invasion. A glance at a map provides a clue as to one of those motives. Afghanistan shares borders with a number of States, including China, that are either unreliable friends of the United States, indifferent to United States wishes, or actively hostile.
A second major motive was the restoration of the heroin trade that had been virtually eliminated under Taliban rule. Heroin has always played a role in the financing of United States clandestine operations. Its current role is no different, and although the relevant facts are well documented in United Nations reports, the facts rarely if ever gets aired in the western mainstream media.
Bin Laden died from natural causes in late 2001, as reported in the New York Times at that time. There has been an elaborate concoction about his alleged capture years later, murder, and hasty burial at sea. There was no truth in any of that elaborate façade, although again the mainstream media played its role of loyal broadcaster of the official story of the day. There are countless other examples.
Even if one took at face value the official story of overthrowing an unfriending government and killing an alleged terrorist mastermind, it does not provide even the flimsiest façade of a justification for United States and Allied forces presence nearly two decades after the ostensible reason for the invasion.
The truth of the matter in Afghanistan is the same as that found in multiple countries over the post-World War 2 period. The United States and its allies invade, occupy and target countries, and rarely if ever leave voluntarily. Vietnam is an example of where the United States and its allies, including Australia, had an unwelcome presence. Their eventual removal came at huge cost to the Vietnamese people.
Iraq and Syria are two more recent examples of invasion and occupation on false pretences and an unwillingness to leave even where their presence is manifestly unwelcome. In both cases the real motives had more to do with regional hegemony and the theft of oil resources than they did with the manifestly false motives proffered at the time. Any lingering doubts about true American motives should have been dispelled by their behaviour in recent months, representing as they do classic illustrations of imperial bullying and a disregard for either the wishes of the legitimate governments, or international law.
As with Afghanistan, it seems unlikely that the Iraq and Syrian situations will be resolved peacefully by the withdrawal of foreign troops and the cessation of western covert support for sundry terrorist groups. There could be no clearer indication of the Australian government’s attitude than the silence it maintains in respect of Israel’s continued occupation of Syrian territory in defiance of countless United Nations resolutions and the illegal bombing carried out by Israeli forces in Syria on an almost daily basis.
If there is a single geopolitical lesson to be drawn from this brief catalogue of Western geopolitical conduct, it is that (a) one cannot rely on the mainstream media for even a fraction of the true story; and (b) that major geopolitical changes are afoot that will dramatically change our world as it has been in recent centuries.
Australia has reached the point of making a stark choice: to pursue the foreign policies of the post British occupation and colonisation period, or embrace the challenges and opportunities afforded by its geography, resources and long-term interests. It is difficult to be optimistic that the right choices will be made.
*Barrister at Law and geopolitical analyst. He may be contacted at joneill@qldbar.asn.au
I remain convinced that the onus of such choices falls on you and me. The real problem, as I see it, is that most Aussies baulk at the amount of drudgery that entails
“The old crossroad is awaiting
Which one are you going to take……”
Sorry, that was actually supposed to be Carter & Ralph, not some tinny counterfeit.
Important to remember that the “pearly-gate” option isn’t open to anyone caught up in any form of satanicpanic either
“ 5G is necessary to develop health, agriculture and education, as well as smart cities and self-driving cars.”
Masonic ministries agenda for mass murder.
L.O.L. “Self driving cars ????” I’m 70 years of age, and I can categoricly state, before I leave this mortal earth, there will never be such a thing as a Self driving car. You can take that to the bank.
True that MSM never tell the truth. But notice that contrary to the conspiracy-theories of David Icke et al who say President Trump is simply another puppet of the Globalists/Zionists/Rothschilds, he has started no new wars? I think he would pull out of Iraq/Afghanistan if he could but Deep State hold-overs resist and black hats flood the vacuum.
The problem with Australia not following the US in military ops is that the US Deep State does not advertise itself as such but as sweetness and light.
Question for testing how mind-controlled you are:
Would you rather be taken over by China or called a racist?
Richard,
We are truly in dire straits. Xi Jinping and Donald Trump work for the same boss.
“black hats flood the vacuum.” profound
Richard, I have been called a Racist many, many time throughout my life, the label has lost any meaning to me, especially when I see Racisisim practiced nearly every day, by some of these folks who use this term. L.O.L. Your assertion, that somehow we have a choice, of being taken over by Xi Jinping are ludicrous indeed. If it wasn’t for China, Australia’s economy would not be anywhere near where it is today, (nor would YOURS or mine,) living standards be where they are either. That my friend is a FACT. Take note, very quietly, recently the Bauxite mining at WEIPA in N.Q. shut down as the bauxite has been exhausted. Guess which country owned that mine, and benefited handsomely from it since WW 2. ? Ask the Queenslanders how much they benefited from that mine. Ask the QLD Government, how much Royalties they received from it’s life span. Whilst your there, ask them too, who it was who discovered those reserves and what was done, once they were discovered. Why was the Australian Government totally oblivious to the discovery until the U.S. Company submitted their claim for development ? The answer is NO, it was not China, that ripped off all Australians, but none other than our good bestest buddies the Yanks. Treating Australians like idiots. And this is the group you favor ?????????????????? B.T.W. I live in W.A. and I have many stories I can relate to more American and Canadian shenanigans ensuring we get more ripped off every day. IMHO, the biggest is the rip off by ALCOA, which when first established here, was an American company, later bought out by a Canadian company, our Premier at the time, thought he was getting a good deal by allowing them operations WITHOUT EVER paying any royalties whatever. That was way back in the 60’s. Today, in the 20 Century, they are still digging up our old forrests, ripping off the bauxite, and still not paying one cent in royalties. How’s that for great Australian leadership, and good friendly fellowship ? Can you find any such incidences of Chinese rip offs in Australia ??????? Don’t get me started on our Iron ore either, another case of being ripped off royally. Again, not by the Chinese either, and sadly, Australians willingly bending the knee, so they can grab the scabs off the floor. That’s our share.
James is spot on regarding the history and his opinion thereupon.
Now why have those politicians who were responsible for the last 19 years of mass killing in the Middle East not been charged and tried for their crimes and lies?
Ditto; the mass media aiders and abettors so continuing to this day.
Ned, your dead right. Came across this little article today, by none other than Pilger the reknown Australian Journo, who’s based in the U.K. Can he still be called an Australian ???
Anyway, check out his article and the Australian names mentioned in his article. They are an eye opener.
Here’s the article ; Julian Assange Must be Freed, Not Betrayed
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/02/18/julian-assange-must-be-freed-not-betrayed/
the fact that so much of the MSM is so enthusiastically promoting everything “Q” , really makes me suspicious as to how legit/genuine Qanon really is. Since when did MSM tell the truth about anything? I believe if theyre pushing an agenda, its gotta be BS. Its called “healthy scepticism” for a reason I think, but Im happy to be proven wrong.
I dont see them being so enthusiastic is spreading the word about anything else the public should be told about.. including the topics mentioned in James’ article above.. of which there is no such doubt about facts.
Fair Dinkum – please put up which ‘much’ of the MSM (alias Fake News) is actually promoting ‘Q’ instead of labeling the most significant Military Intelligence operation of all time (Q) as the old C_A Chestnut, a ‘conspiracy theory?
Youve obviously mistaken me for someone that gives a fuck about anything you say. what a short memory.
LOL! You took the time to respond with a nasty comment, but you can’t respond to the question?
Ned, re: the media. Yesterday’s q post. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDVQe5iRiPw
Good post, Phil, I hope and others take to looking at it.
Richard, this is not a binary choice . ie: that we have to ally either with the U.S or with China.
There is a third option. Namely, that is to end all foreign alliance entanglements & remove all foreign troops / military & CIA bases / HAARP Ionospheric heater facilities from our territory & pursue a policy of neutrality – like Switzerland.
Since the defeat of the Old Swiss Confederacy over 500 years ago , Switzerland’s neutrality has ensured that it’s blood & treasure has not been dissipated needlessly & they have reaped the benefits with their present day world leading GDP per capita status .
As for Trump starting no new wars , it's not for lack of desire.
Much as he’d like to follow the Zio-script & attack Iran ( & thus remove the last entity preventing Israel’s total hegemony of the region ) , Trump’s military advisers have informed him of the stark reality that defeating Iran would be orders of magnitude more difficult & expensive than the $ 5 – 7 trillion wasted in the Iraq war.
Instead, Trump has escalated the bombing on existing areas of occupation . to levels Obama never dreamed of :
https://www.stripes.com/news/the-us-has-dropped-more-munitions-in-2018-in-afghanistan-than-it-has-in-any-year-in-over-a-decade-1.558577
AND , he’s stooped to the depths of depravity ( risking retaliation that may lead to World War III ) , by utilising bioweapons on America’s leading economic rival :
https://www.unz.com/article/was-the-2020-wuhan-coronavirus-an-engineered-biological-attack-on-china-by-america-for-geopolitical-advantage/
Let’s not mince words here. I’m no fan of Obama or Bush 43 , but Trump’s foreign policy recklessness is orders of magnitude worse than anything we’ve seen in decades .
Truth Vigilante. Spot on words. BUT imagine how much worse the situation could have been with Dillary at the helm, we’d be boot deep in WW 3 right now.
Speaking of such issues, I note they seem to be legitimising Sanders over there, as if somehow, over the years he has changed his spots, L.O.L. they consider him a good bet.
Yet, his past deeds and words belie everything he is saying today. The electorate willingly ignores his past statements as if they never happened, yet clearly, he is of the very same cloth his predicessers in the W.H. have been. He supports all the wars and the subjugation of poorer nations just as much as Obuma and Trump have done/are doing. Clearly, there is no hope at all for Americans of ever seeing the light.
Truth – your first link is to the bombing of tunnels and caves as used by Deep State operatives in drug manufacturing – seems those MOAB (Mother Of All Bombs) put the Afghanistan C_A operation out of business – now Trump is to parly with the Taliban on a peace agreement. You would already know this if you chose better sources for your info.
Too, just days into Trump’ presidency, the Zika Kid from North Korea began issuing threats and launching ICBM (Inter-Continental Ballistic Missiles) into the Sea of Japan and over Japanese territory while threatening America with Nuclear war – so why did Trump not take advantage of that give away and kick off WW3 then and there? And wasn’t Trump seen inside the de-militarized zone between South and North Korea with the Zika Kid in early 2019? Are they buddies or enemies?
Your second link is a scenario based assumption and nothing more – I could put up two of my own just to prove to that no one has a compelling connection on the release of that bio-weapon with any one country. Funny that China’s Bio-weapons lab is just 300 metres from that free fall all meat market though, don’t you think?
It is Israel with American assistance attacking Iranian military facilities in Syria. Iran has been asked by Assad to quit the country, so far Iran is refusing to do so and is continually engaged in deadly terrorist tactics against the state of Israel.
So, I really cannot see how you come to the conclusion that Trump is running a reckless foreign policy when all the evidence points to a de-escalation of most of the world’s hot spots under Trump’s administration.
Truth Vigilante… looks like another keen geopolitical observer has entered our pages. Welcome mate. Good comments.
Thanks very much Eddy / Tony Ryan for your kind words.
Eddy , as to your statement about Weipa & other instances where U.S corporations have been plundering Australia’s wealth , I could not agree more.
Absolutely on the money.
It's not enough that we've been running sizeable trade deficits with the U.S since forever , they compound it further by exploiting us in every other arena & subjugating us into vassalage. .
Nemesis , you state that : ‘ ….all the evidence points to a de-escalation of most of the world’s hotspots under Trump’s administration ‘ .
Really ??
I’ll let the numerous other , more geopolitically savvy Gumshoer’s , have fun ( easily ) dismantling that claim .
Truth – please name just one war that Trump’s Administration has initiated? And inviting ‘others’ to assist you in defending your own post says much to me about your own ability to cope with warranted criticism. I have provided to you my own assertions with which to criticize you with, yet you invite others instead, to go into bat for you?
Also Nemesis , as to your remark that the MOAB’s are being used to target caves & tunnels used by Deep State operatives involved in drug manufacturing , I’m aware of the less-than-objective claims made by the plethora of rabid war mongering hand-picked Trump appointees like Mike Pompeo & others .
However, other sources are saying the bombs are going here :
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-attack/at-least-35-people-at-wedding-party-killed-during-nearby-afghan-army-raid-idUSKBN1W80MI
And here …..
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/afghanistan-dozens-civilians-killed-drone-attack-190919072728303.html
And here ….
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/01/world/asia/drone-civilians-afghanistan.html
Hmmm , I don't believe any of these civilians being killed & dismembered were positioned in caves or tunnels at the time of their demise.
Truth – Those sources are faulty, as they are all part of the Globalist/Deep State. Have you not looked at more reliable sources other than the controlled media? I could give you some pointers if you are willing to look at them?
Thanks Eddy- a must read
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/02/18/julian-assange-must-be-freed-not-betrayed/
also
Cate Blanchett on Australia’s ‘dislocated’ politics: ‘You’re living in a system that’s gone mad’
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/feb/20/cate-blanchett-on-australias-dislocated-politics-youre-living-in-a-system-thats-gone-mad?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Great article James on documenting Australia’s preparedness to fight Cabal wars all over the world.
As to Trumps administration being just the same as every other corrupt U.S.administration since Kennedy’s assassination, I beg to differ. North Korea didn’t end up in war. They look pretty happy to me. https://www.deccanherald.com/international/china-welcomes-trump-kim-meeting-744101.html
As to bombing in Afghanistan, what exactly is Trump bombing? CIA/Taliban drug labs maybe? Cutting off Cabal funding?? https://www.scmp.com/news/world/middle-east/article/2120805/trumps-opium-war-us-begins-bombing-taliban-drug-labs-new. Killing the CIA thru bankruptcy maybe?
Saudi Arabia had a purge of Deep State players in late 2017. Trump visited SA early in 2017. Coincidence? https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-to-visit-saudi-arabia-israel-and-the-vatican-1493914127 And what was the purpose of his visit to Israel & the Vatican? Time will tell.
There are too many dots to connect, and the truth is, we may never know all the details. Suffice to say, big things are afoot, and perhaps the biggest is the exposure and hopefully eradication ofn the Central Banksters. Trump loves bashing the FED.He calls the boneheads and a greater threat than China.https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/01/21/trump-criticizes-federal-reserve-at-davos-for-holding-back-us-economy/#60ade9a219eb
Too funny.
And this was interesting from yesterday.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDVQe5iRiPw
As for Reuters, Al Jazeera and the New York Times today, well what can I say. Fake news.
Yesterdays offering. Too funny.
Phil , you do know that Qanon is a CIA psyop , don’t you ?
I know a few Q-cultists ( because, let\s face it , they are a cult ), & they suggested I watch some Red Pill 78 & Amazing Polly ( as featured in your video above ), & after watching quite a few hours of their stuff , I was less than impressed ( to put it mildly ).
Bottom Line : The host of RedPill 78 , Amazing Polly , Black Conservative Patriot etc are all ‘johnny-come-lately’s ‘ that have NO genuine Intell / Military / Political connections (developed & nurtured over decades like say a Ron Paul would or a Phil Giraldi , Paul Craig Roberts , Ray McGovern etc).
They may well be sincere in their desire to unravel the Deep State but at the end of the day they are just no-nothing dunces as they are NOT privy to the real machinations going down.
No “Truth Vigilante”, I didn’t know the Q Operation is a CIA psyop. Thanks for enlightening me with your boundless and ever-so-deep wisdom. I do, however agree that it IS a psyop, but perhaps a positive one. Perhaps the most sophisticated psyop in history. And why do you use an obvious pseudonym (Truth Vigilante).To emphasise that you are telling the truth?? It makes you sound like such a try hard, and possibly a borderline troll. Just use your first name, if you have one.
gday Phil, ever since i first went online, the most prudent advice was to be careful about how much personal information you share. there are many good reasons for people to not share their real names. me.. i dont want to embarrass my wife + kids. – that advice is as relevant today as it was back then, perhaps even more so.
the substance of what a person posts is not diminished or enhanced by the name it is posted under. Im sure Phil is most likely your true first name, but it wouldnt make any difference if in fact your real first name was mike.
just my unqualified opinion 🙂
some here though, do indeed know my true identity, just I dont wish it to be common knowledge.
“Q” doesnt post under his real name.
It makes Q sound like such a try hard, and possibly a borderline troll.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Fair point, Fair Dinkum. But Q can’t really put all their names down. I’m guessing they’re quite a group. They’d have to be. My barb about the guy who has so much “good info” to enlighten us with is that his info appears 95% correct. It’s just the last 5% that bothers me. Reminds me of a good troll/propaganda. Infiltrate, gain trust, introduce false info, attack other commenters. We’ve seen it all before. Even his pseudonym bothers me and causes my “spider senses” to awaken.
its good that you are bothered i think, i think we should all be. ( sceptics ) still, i need to be at least 55% bothered before I start calling people trolls. 🙂
if youre going to go down the road that if people have a name you dont agree with, that get your senses tingling… then what of all “G5’s” posts here?
What about myself… or nemesis.. or any of the others that post under pseudonyms?
I dont necessarily agree with everything people post on here, but I havnt found a better website where people can discuss such differences – respectfully – despite myself probably being guilty of what im currently complaining about.
despite our individual differences, strengths/failings – most of us here simply want a better world.
I appreciate all the input here – its what I come for, the different opinions. Cheers Phil.
Nemesis, I’m with you on your assessment that The New York Times & Reuters are far from reliable & are tools of the Zio-cabal. ( Different story though about Al Jazeera – refer to Parts 1 , 2 & 3 of The Lobby below ) :
That said, sometimes there is such an overwhelming deluge of proof that Trump’s regime is ordering an escalation of the bombing against innocent CIVILIANS in Afghanistan & elsewhere that even the Deep State controlled MSM has to make some concessions & release some truth – to give the perception of balanced reporting .
( Lest they be more easily exposed to the gullible fools that still listen to them ).
So Nemesis , you will agree with me on the following point I’m sure.
What does the Deep State stand to gain by revealing that a HELL OF A LOT of civilians are being blown up & dismembered under Trump’s tenure ??
Of course, the Deep State’s quest for perpetual; war ( & perpetual profits thus derived from the escalation in the military budget under Trump ) , is not served by printing stories of poor 3rd world villagers being minced up by Trump’s precision guided munitions.
In fact, too many such stories being disseminated could well lead to a change of sentiment in the American public & they'd start mass anti-war demonstrations like in the Vietnam era.
We couldn’t have that , could we now ?
“What does the Deep State stand to gain by revealing that a HELL OF A LOT of civilians are being blown up & dismembered under Trump’s tenure ??”
Well I thought that would be obvious, TV. The same advantage as saying that Ghaddafi was killing his own citizens. The same advantage as when Nurse Nayira told the world at the U.N. that the Iraqi soldiers were throwing the babies out of the incubators and crushing their little heads on the cold floor. The same advantage as initiating The Mueller Witch Hunt on the FAKE pretext that Trump colluded with the Russians to beat Hilderbeast and the same advantage they were hoping to gain by fabricating the Ukrainian Impeachment fiasco over “The Perfect Call.”
The first two resulted in massive wars. The second two were futile attempts to get rid of Trump, which were destined to fail miserably. Right now, Trump is Deep State Priority No.1.
I’m starting to have doubts about you, T.V. I hope I’m wrong.
Truth – you begin your post by acquiescing to two items of ‘fake news’ as I hinted to you, but then you promote an Islamic (Religious Agenda!) T.V. station that is in cahoots with the Globalist/Deep State and has been proven unreliable. Would you watch a Catholic T.V. station for your info? Would you consider that to be religiously tainted?
Just pointing out, that nearly every MSM station is compromised to the C_A Operation Mocking Bird, and for your info, and for that reason,I no longer watch Television and have not done so for nearly two decades.
T.V. is full of propaganda and lies, and I would advise anyone who wishes to remain true to themselves on their road to the truth, to switch it off.
Have you looked up Operation Mocking Bird and the implications to us all, of such an operation?
The only ‘evidence’ that Trump is escalating the Afghan war comes from ‘fake news’ when all the real evidence points to a de-escalation and peace talks with the Taliban.
My offer to you to look at some real sources of info still apply – it is your choice to expand your thinking?
The complications of chaos, in their order expanding seemingly to all ends of earth, are so far removed from His love, that is simply living in this natural paradise. A creative phenomenon only a Heavenly Father can do and control.
Our gut instincts, should be enough to guide us through the maze the unbelievers have set.
If it relies on a plug in the wall, you know it’s man/woman made so use with caution. If good people are in leading positions, then His perfection will enhance and inspire all living.
Sadly, we are herded into cities so as not to see the light of day but instead to be luminated by artificial stupidity. Anyone that propagates nuclear military industrial is a tool of the beast system.
Jesus gave us two commandments simple and true, living by them is another matter.
Nicely said, 56..
56 – God is within all of us. That is what many fail to realize.
Ok. I will have a shot at the two… roughly.
Only do unto Thi neighbours as you would have them done unto you.
Judge not, lest thi be judged.
So what is the world arguing about?
Anyone disagree?
Nemesis , in relation to responding to your obsession with my naming ‘ one new war started under Trump ‘ , I will respond to that later this evening.
In the interim, I have to run – other matters to attend to right now.
Stay posted for some enlightenment all you Trump groupies .
We await with baited breath.
BTW, wasn’t it Al Jazeera (with help from “our” ABC) who stitched up Pauline Hanson about her beliefs on Port Arthur massacre, and based upon the under-cover reporter entrapping the boof-head One Nation underlings about NRA financial support? That Al Jazeera based in Qatar?
If Pauline Pantsdown was ever stitched up by anyone in regard to discrepancies with the official account of PAM, she has an easy way to unravel any stitches by simply referring her detractors to this very website. ( I dare her! double dare her! 🙂 )
she really has no clue if she is coming or going.
apologies for botched link below
Fair Dinkum – It is now a matter of public record that Pauline Hanson was framed. She was stitched up by the coalition who don’t like too much truth getting out into the public arena, especially concerning their own criminal problems.You don’t think this country suffers from its own Deep State and Deep Swamp? Do you honesty believe that our system of justice is not politically controlled?
if i had pantsdowns soapbox… id sort truth from fiction in 5 minutes flat.
when trump locks her up… then i might listen to you..
now – thats the last ill respond to you. – do me the same courtesy, as its obvious, because I have told you repeatedly, you and I are poles apart and our differences are irreconcilable.
Fair Dinkum – this site is an open forum and as such, comments are open to criticism. If you put up comments on subjects that I happen to feel strongly about then you will be criticized.
We all come here to learn things that may slip our normal day to day lives and making oneself open to criticism is another learning process.
It is always your choice to not respond.
And I will hold you to your promise after the Clintons are locked up.
I myself do wait with bated breath to see what TV has regarding Trumps warmongerings,
even though he is one of the <a href = “https://www.theroot.com/we-calculated-how-much-we-pay-trump-to-play-golf-it-tu-1841793634:>top ten paid sportsmen going…
theres never enough reasons to cheer for trump!
hell.. if he locked her up.. youd here me from *here!
*FD fortress of solitude
Thanks for the wing-man cover Dinkum .
Yes, I have my reasons for using an alias but, as Dinkum makes clear , if I used an actual name , how would you know I didn’t make that up ??
As far as being a troll , you’ll have to take my word for it that I’m not .
You may even get a better appreciation of who I am if you live in Sydney ( or immediate surrounds) , & happen to bump in to me at the protest rally in support of Julian Assange early next week. Details as follows :
Venue : U.S Embassy , Level 10 * , MLC Centre , 19-29 Martin Place , Sydney.
Date : 12 noon , Monday Feb. 24 .
( * Don’t go to level 10 – the protest with guest speakers will be at ground level ) .
As for who is or isn't a troll , how do we know you're not one yourself Phil ?
For those who do attend the rally & are unable to distinguish me from the others, you need only ask Phil for assistance & his ‘ Spidey senses ‘ will pinpoint me with precision .
Truth – my name is Terrence John Odgers – I use the alias of Nemesis and have done so since 2008 when i first took up blogging with Islammonitor.org. My first post on that site attracted over a million hits – titled The Big Picture – and you can log onto that post by going to the website – which is for reading only and is now kept within the Australian National Library.
I had no choice in not using my real names as the website controller was adamant that everyone, due to the subject being exposed, should use a non-de- plume. I chose Nemesis because being an ex-cop and someone who is a staunch believer in justice, the name suited what i I believe in.
Now, care to tell us about yourself?
Islammonitor.org – his only source of fair dinkum news – shit he wrote himself… ffs
Terrence John Odgers – seems legit …
do us a favour “Nem” – dont respond to me and Ill ignore you.
Phil , you absolutely lost me with your explanation when I asked you : ‘ What does the Deep State have to gain by revealing ( via their MSM propaganda disseminating assets ) that a hell of a lot of civilians are being blown up on Trump’s orders .
You came back with examples like Ghaddafi killing his own citizens.
Well , YES , I agree that evidence demonstrating deaths at the hands of pro-Ghaddafi forces would undoubtedly tarnish Ghaddafi in the eyes of impartial observers.
BUT, in the case of atrocities against poor 3rd world villagers being blown up by so-called ‘precision guided U.S munitions ‘ ( people who previously had no animosity against the U.S & wouldn’t have the capacity to inflict any harm even if they wanted to ) , WHOSE reputation is being tarnished ?
Well, obviously Trump is – he’s the Commander in Chief & he’s signed off on all of this so he must bear responsibility.. If nothing else, seeing as Trump is losing no sleep over these atrocities , it’s ample evidence that’s he’s a conscience free psychopath .
Also, the Zio-owned Military / Industrial / Security complex must take some responsibility since they manufacture these weapons of death & procure ever increasing funding on the pretext that their new ‘ cutting edge weapons system ‘ is a game changer & will break the deadlock & end the war – which of course it never does.
Now, before we go any further, let’s stop using the ambiguous ‘ Deep State ‘ moniker .
The thing that irks me most about the Qanon & affilitate entities is that they use the term ‘ Deep State ‘ instead of calling it out for what it is.
Let’s call a spade a spade. MORE than half of all acknowledged funding ** for both major political parties in the U.S comes from rabid Zionists.
( ** There’s a lot of under-the-table illicit funding going to the respective parties as well – not to mention the $ 500,000 per speech that ex-Presidents get for being faithful servants during their term in office by implementing pro-Israel wars of aggression etc ) .
AIPAC is the most powerful lobby in the U.S ( there’s blue sky to 2nd place ) .
All Congressmen / Senators have to sign a LOYALTY PLEDGE TO ISRAEL when they enter Congress. Don’t believe it ? Just ask former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney .
The largest individual donor to the Republican party over the last decade or two is casino magnate Sheldon Adelson. There have been many billionaires vying for the honour as far as donations to the Dems but one that stands out was Haim Saban who is on record as saying :
‘ I’m a one-issue guy & my issue is Israel ‘ .
Bottom Line : The Israel Lobby OWNS most of the politicians & thus DICTATES U.S FOREIGN POLICY.
My point about Qanon & it’s cult followers is that they DO NOT HAVE THE GUTS to call the people who rule over us by their rightful name. ie: the Zio-cabal.
They use words like Deep State & Globalists which are PURPOSELY ambiguous so that we might think that perhaps Jesuits or Russian Oligarchs or the Saudi royal family or some such entity is front & centre amongst the world controllers.
This is by design. This is done to muddy the waters & deflect attention away from the true entity running the show.
So, that’s the OBVIOUS red flag when it comes to Qanon & suggestive that they’re a Zio-backed organisation ( no spidey-senses needed to work that obvious one out ) .
Getting back to Phil’s explanation , I think it’s safe to say that we’re ALL in agreement that the Military-Industrial complex is a bedrock of the Zio-cabal. ( They are the major shareholders in the defence contractors like General Dynamics , Raytheon , Lockheed Martin etc ).
So, if one wants to unravel the Zio-cabal & reduce their power , does one INCREASE funding to them or radically reduce funding ( as Ron Paul would’ve done ) ?
No prizes for guessing correctly. Trump MASSIVELY increased funding for his Zio-crony mates.
The election is in November & so far Trump’s first term has been a TOTAL WASTE – as far as Zio-cabal top ranking entities indicted / prosecuted / gaoled.
Not ONE has been brought to account ( further proof that the Qanon prognostications saying : ‘Just wait , it’s going to drop soon & …… it’s going down anytime now ‘ to keep the Q-culters hooked .
But it just never seems to happen , does it ?
It never will .
So let’s look at the implications of the Zio-cabal ( via the MSM ) tarnishing both Trump’s image & the image of the Military-Industrial complex via images of death & destruction initiated by the U.S military .
You need only look at what it did for Lyndon Baines Johnson .
He won the 1964 in a record landslide . Yet , within a few years his popularity was plumbing the lowest of lows from the Vietnam war debacle.
Sufficient saturation of the MSM with stories of Trump initiated atrocities against poor 3rd world villagers threatens to derail Trump’s campaign & thus kill the goose that lays the golden eggs for the Military-Industrial complex.
Should Trump lose there is every possibility that a pacifist like Bernie Sanders will become POTUS & that means the gravy train for the Zio-cabal is threatened.
No, they’re having none of that.
The Zio-cabal is ALL IN with Trump & will do everything they can to make sure he gets a second term .
hypothetical Q: 🙂 – ( where would we be without hypotheticals? ) why was JFK killed ? – why is Trump still alive?
back to the topic of the article.
I hope we can change – because If we continue as we are, Australia has zero opportunities, and countless challenges.
There’s an old Shakespearean saying. “He that protesteth too much”. What’s the weather like in TA??
‘nough said! “Orange Man Bad”
Thanks Ned for the heads upre TA. Never would a thought it. . I think we’ve got ourselves a troll. But wait, I’m a troll. Projection??
I am only posting this because I have been delisted from receiving notifications for this most interesting discussion. (Maybe I was logged out of WordPress.)
$29.95 says Q is a psyop and Trump is not going to drain anything or lock anyone up.
http://www.newswithviewsstore.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=NWVS&Product_Code=TM&Category_Code=TS
But as for “pacifists like Bernie Sanders”
Sanders Says He Would Consider a Pre-emptive Strike on Iran and North Korea
https://www.anti-empire.com/sanders-says-he-would-consider-a-preemptive-strike-on-iran-and-north-korea/
Yee-hah! 😊
If it wasn’t for many good Jewish people, we would have no idea about the Khazar mafia.
They are not our only oppressors, there are many from all races and creeds. Freemasonry is communism is kabala. The good Jews are not allowed membership in this occult that has hyjacked the world.
Nemesis, in relation to Trump starting no new wars, let’s delve into the reasons behind it.
Bush 43 started two wars which Obama inherited.
Obama expanded that to SEVEN (7) wars . ie: the two he inherited plus ( from memory ) Libya , Sudan , Somalia , Syria & Yemen.
Granted, some of these were not spearheaded by the U.S ( French & British forces were the primary belligerents in Libya but with considerable U.S logistical & other assistance ).
Now, for those of you who were not aware of U.S participation in the war in Yemen ( the MSM is saying that Saudi Arabia is responsible for the greatest humanitarian crisis in decades by bombing the poorest country in the middle east ) , consider this .
Whilst it’s true that Saudi pilots are flying Saudi planes that do the actual bombing, the fact is that for every front line combat soldier , there are many more providing logistical support.
Without said logistical backing , there is NO frontline assault.
And the U.S is providing this logistical support. ( U.S air-to-air tanker aircraft are fuelling Saudi strike aircraft , satellite reconnaissance , U.S military personnel actually planning Saudi offensive operations etc ).
As for combat operations in Sudan , Somalia etc, these combat actions are indeed on a limited scale & many wouldn’t call them wars but perhaps skirmishes.
Yes, but that’s how the Vietnam conflict began. It always starts out small & things have a way of escalating.
Anyway, President Trump comes along & inherits Obama’s wars .
Of course, when he was ‘ Candidate Trump ‘ he said all the right things like he’d get out of Afghanistan.
I suppose a politician has got to say what he needs to say to get elected – knowing he has no intention of fulfilling on said promise.
Actual Outcome : Trump ESCALATES the conflict in Afghanistan.
Now, returning back to the seven wars that Obama presided over , let’s be clear , these were the seven wars that the U.S military ADMITTED to having involvement in.
We had no idea the U.S was involved in the war below ( until reports were released that U.S servicemen were killed ) :
https://abcnews.go.com/International/us-soldiers-killed-niger-outgunned-left-hunt-isis/story?id=54909240
Yes, you read right. That was U.S servicemen killed in Niger .
How many other countries are U.S military personnel involved in with comabt operations ( initiating regime change and / or deposing democratically elected rulers for no other reason than that they have an independent foreign policy that does not align with Anglo-Zionist Empire corporate interests ) ?
Then we have this :
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2011/sep/14/ron-paul/ron-paul-says-us-has-military-personnel-130-nation/
Yes, you read right, There are over 900 hundred U.S bases in 130 countries .
So Nemesis , do you understand now why Trump has not initiated any new wars ?
I will spell it out for you .
The U.S Empire is STREEEEEETCHED to breaking point conducting malfeasance in every corner of the globe.
The U.S military just DOES NOT HAVE ANY SPARE CAPACITY to genocide ( either directly or indirectly ) any more poor , (usually) brown skinned people utilising military means.
That’s why they’ve resorted to a biological weapons attack – via the corona virus administered on the hapless Chinese.
In relation to the wars initiated by the U.S Empire, it is important that we scrutinise this from a Qualitative angle ( not just quantitative ).
Let’s suppose , for arguments sake , that Trump got out of one or two of the ‘ minor skirmish ‘ wars.
I can hear the Qanon people now boasting how the U.S is now down to only 5 wars ( as opposed to a predecessor’s 7 for example ) .
But, we should be focusing on the degree of escalation of military action in the 5 remaining wars (by way of bombs dropped / 3rd world villagers being killed, maimed , orphaned , displaced or dispossessed ) .
And, as the evidence suggests , Trump has ratcheted up the misery on the Afghani people.
Now, let’s turn our attention to a GENUINE peace POTUS. ( I’m no fan of his economic agenda but as a bona fide man of peace , he has no equal in the post JFK era ) :
The whole 5 minutes of this video is worth watching but let’s just focus on the 7 seconds from 0:50 to 0:57 .
Listen to it over & over.
Jimmy Carter says : ‘ In my 4 years [as POTUS ] we never dropped a bomb , we never fired a missile , never shot a bullet ‘ .
Those are the words of a POTUS who is not beholden ( at least as far as reckless foreign policy is concerned ), to the Zio-cabal.
A WORTHY recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize that he most assuredly deserves .
Lastly, in relation to the so-called peace overtures to Nth Korea initiated by Trump , it’s all a head fake .
Belligerent & aggressive overtures by previous U.S administrations towards Nth Korea came to nought.
So, they’re taking a different tack – just like they did with Ghaddafi in Libya.
They sweet talked Ghaddafi into abandoning his nuclear ambitions in exchange for a resumption in normal diplomatic relations & trade with the Anglo-Zionist empire & their western vassals.
And …. for quite a few years things seemed to be panning out nicely.
Well, we know how that turned out for Ghaddafi & the Libyan people.
It's not going to work on Nth Korea in my opinion. Give it a few years & when all U.S overtures of ending sanctions / resumption in trade / direct monetary assistance still don't result in abandonment of their WMD's , then it's back to demonisation by the U.S as before.
and speaking of Yemen and the “many more providing logistical support” …
Australia advising, assisting and training [terrorists] in Yemen
• Former Australian soldiers involved in Saudi war against Yemen rebels (Australian ABC Radio AM program January 14, 2016)
• http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-14/former-australian-soldiers-involved-in-saudi-war/7087726
From the transcript:
“Former Australian soldiers are playing a key role in a Saudi-led war against rebel fighters in Yemen. The group includes a one-time special forces commander, who’s in charge of an elite military unit in the United Arab Emirates.
Human rights groups are worried about the growing civilian casualties in the bloody Yemeni conflict, but defence sources say the **Australians are helping to improve the standards of the forces.
[…]
At the top of the UAE’s military is the elite Presidential Guard, created in 2010 and led by former Australian Special Forces Commander Mike Hindmarsh, who reports directly to the Crown Prince.
He’s among a small group of ex-Australian military personnel now inside the UAE defence force.
[…]
Defence force sources have told AM having Australians working for Middle Eastern militaries also has a valuable strategic benefit, because the Gulf States are vital allies in the fight against terrorism.”
Truth – that is quite a lengthy list you have there – but still no Trump initiated war?
What you list is care of the Globalist/Deep State – not care of Trump who has been de-escalating American military involvement since January, 2017. Although you attempt to allude that Trump is doing nothing to de-escalate, but as I have pointed out to you previously, the only rogue state we are still concerned with is Iran whose crazy Garden Gnomes have an obsession with destroying Israel – but I guess that is another story?
It will come to pass that China, North Korea and Iran are all Globalist assets to keep the military industrial complex ‘busy’ – now that Trump has brought China to its knees and offered North Korea a way out of their Globalist fix, only Iran needs to be dealt with and Trump is doing that, and very effectively, through economic sanctions. Are you even aware of the hundreds of thousands throughout Iran who were out in protest against their ‘government’ and supporting the assassination of Soleimani? The thousands killed by the Republican Guard or locked up without trial?
The Rebel Houthi’s in Yemen were armed and supported by Iran – hence the involvement of the Saudis. Iran has vowed to destroy the Saudi Empire – and I have no sympathy for that despotic British installed (re -Lawrence of Arabia) Bedouin Tribe, but the Saudis support the Yemeni regime. And who supports Iran? Well up until Trump got elected, the Globalist/Deep State did via the previous administrations.
Carter lasted four years, two years longer than JFK, and it was on his watch that all those ‘students’ were taken hostage in Iran. Carter was a mixed bag who was not permitted to seek a second term as president. Trump, and his family, have endured at least a dozen assassination attempts against them, and you still believe Trump is part of the Globalist Cabal?
A question to you: What do you believe would have occurred if Trump, on assuming office, stated to arrest and lock up all those who need to be arrested and locked up?
Just read your comment ‘ 56 ‘ about the good Jewish people ( who from my experience are the overwhelming majority ).
We should never conflate Judaism with rabid Zionism.
The fact is, even most Zionists I’ve spoken to although (in my opinion) misguided on some issues , are decent people. I can understand their wanting a Jewish homeland in light of what happened to their ancestors in WWII etc.
It’s only a small sliver of fanatical , Zionist Talmudic Jews ( who incidentally happen to be extremely wealthy & politically well connected ) , that are mostly responsible for the malfeasance .
A good proportion of my sources are Jewish .
Their input in the truth movement is invaluable & I’m grateful for it .
Skoolafish , I just read your posting on the Australian soldiers ( mercenaries ) involved in the Yemen conflict &, as is often the case , some useful stuff that I was not aware of .
You know, I do a fair bit of research & have a few useful sources but I’m not infallible.
I provide my opinions based on the material I’ve had access to & it’s up to others to form their own opinions ( naturally, how things play out over the coming years will determine if the Qanon prognostications were in fact prophetic or not ).
I don’t pretend to have the depth & breadth of facts available that Fish has at his fingertips.
I’ve presented some information to back up my stances & Nemesis instantly dismisses them as fake news.
Well, they might be & then again, they might not.
It’s always best to do some due dligence via independent sources before dismissing some piece of information out of hand.
Meanwhile, Phil resorts to ad hominem attacks by calling me a borderline troll – because I’m saying something that doesn’t fit the Qanon narrative.
Anyway, it’s water off a ducks back – it doesn’t worry me.
Anyone is welcome to say anything about me & I hope that said person is not banned from the comments section because I know things can be said in the heat of the moment .
Have a pleasant evening fellow GumShoer's ( yes, you too Phil & Nemesis as I'm pretty sure you're good blokes ) & I look forward to future conversations.
Once again, you are too kind Truth Vigilante. You (and of course Dee, Mary and others) move the boulders – I merely follow the trodden path and kick over a few stray pebbles.
[When I have time and[ when I am not reading books (tsundoku), I read articles and browse the comments. I especially look for those comments which provide links as sources – end particularly those that say “here, I found this related article of interest and thought you would too”. These allow us to do our own thinking.
I do more listening than talking and I find that ‘truth’ is the only thing that resonates with my being.
“The truth sometimes reminds me of a city buried in sand. As time passes, the sand piles up even thicker, and occasionally it’s blown away and what’s below is revealed.“
[…]
“You can hide memories, but you can’t erase history.“
I was planning on offering a mini-article based on that quote and will reveal the source at that time.
Ad hominum attacks?
plethora of rabid war mongering hand-picked Trump appointees
they are just no-nothing dunces (I think Polly does great research)
are all ‘johnny-come-lately’s….
exposed to the gullible fools that still listen to them….
HELL OF A LOT of civilians are being blown up & dismembered under Trump’s tenure ??…
stories of poor 3rd world villagers being minced up by Trump’s precision guided munitions…..
a conscience free psychopath…. .
Qanon & it’s cult followers…..
“He that protesteth too much??”Just sayin’……..Trump is Cabal enemy No.1 right now. Everything else is secondary. to his removal from office.
Oz is Zionist occupied territory and that is why we are defending Israel’s borders in Afghanistan.
It’s all about drugs oil money. Freemasons are the only winners here. The pencils at all elections, for past 45 years have assured this Liebore deception. Indeed, changing times are here as CCP officials guided us through last election.
Phil, those comments I made were not attacks on you. ie: I wasn’t attacking the messenger .
It was directed at entities that are providing ‘ research ‘ of dubious value (in my opinion) .
And also directed at Trump & his neo-con entourage who, the balance of evidence would suggest are conscience free war mongers .
Nemesis , we see the richest country in the Middle East ( Saudi Arabia ), aided & abetted with massive U.S logistical support , attacking the poorest country in the Middle East ( Yemen ).
If ever there was a textbook case of a cowardly big bully attacking a little kid , this is it.
Yet, you call Iran a ‘ rogue state ‘ . Really ???
They have the guts to come to the aid of their little brother being beaten up in the playground (something all civilised nations should have rallied to in defence of the Yemenis) , & you call them a rogue state ?
What Orwellian world do you live in , where a good Samaritan ( Iran ) that steps in to defend the hapless Yemenis , is criticised for their act of magnanimity & compassion for the oppressed ?
The Iranians should be given a ticker tape parade & the highest of accolades for their efforts.
There is not a shred of exaggeration when I say that the Saudi / U.S joint pre-emptive war of aggression has caused the world’s greatest humanitarian crisis in decades :
https://news.un.org/en/story/2019/02/1032811
In light of that, are you really so surprised that I refer to Trump & his neo-con entourage as being conscience free ?
As I mentioned before , I have a few friends who are into Qanon & they also mentioned the alleged ‘ numerous assassination attempts ‘ against Trump.
I asked them for proof that even ONE attempt had been made on Trump & the best they could do was forward me an article about someone at a Trump rally who was caught with a firearm ( no doubt a minion of the cabal, placed there so a bogus narrative could be concocted about a possible assassination attempt ).
Anyway, that story was easily dismantled so I asked for further proof.
Well, needless to say , I didn’t hear back from them.
I have yet to see, even the remotest sliver of CREDIBLE evidence that there has been an assassination attempt on Trump or his family.
Why would they kill the goose (Trump) that’s laying the golden eggs ( massive increases in defence appropriations ) for them ?
Lastly, if Trump were indeed out to dismantle the Zio-cabal & started to arrest those responsible for 9/11 & the rest , there would undoubtedly be push back.
But, as Commander in Chief , he could marshall the collective effort of the ENTIRE U.S military & large sections of the Intell agencies comprised of genuine patriots.
Of course, he could not do this piecemeal over many months or years.
He would have to institute Martial law & round up all the major players in one fell swoop – akin to what Hitler did in the Night of the Long Knives where ALL the major adversaries of Hitler’s regime were rounded up in a 24 hour period (more or less ).
It could be done – utilising the organisational & logistical abilities of the top military men / special forces loyal to the constitution .
But Trump simply does NOT HAVE THE GUTS to do it.
He’s a worthless & pitiful compliant puppet.
Truth – your understanding of the Yemeni conflict is abysmal, I have given you the reason for the Saudis attacking the Houthi’s – they are Iranian backed rebels attempting to eliminate the Yemeni regime and the Saudis back the Regime.Why do you think Trump’s first country stop was Saudi Arabia – and what occurred in that country shortly thereafter?
Iran has been attacking Saudi Arabia and Israel, via their proxy armies ever since 1979.Iran also provides training, military assistance and money to Hamas and Fatah – did you know that?
To understand any conflict one must always uncover the beginnings. You seem to latch onto whatever suits your own thinking rather than do thorough research – show me I am wrong on that assumption if I am.
Iran is a Globalist/Deep state asset – who do you think set up the first Mad Mullah Khomeni? and why did Obama send over 500 million dollars in 2015 with a promise of two more deliveries every year from then on? Have you forgotten the blowback from the E.U. when Trump tore up the Iranian Nuclear treaty? Some of that money went to the E.U. Have you also forgotten the threats made to the big wigs in the E.U. if they were not forthcoming with the rest of the deal money for Iran – names would be broadcast far and wide by Iran? Lots of E.U. big names on all that free cash!
Your term Iran’s ‘little brothers’ for Houthi Rebels shows me how much you really do not know.
As for those assassination attempts, not only on Trump, but members of his family as well, do you really believe that the Globalist/Deep State controlled media would actually put out for public notice every failed attempt? No, no one can give you ‘proof’ of what you ask, but you could easily inform yourself by simply following ‘Q’ the greatest Military Intelligence operation of our time. If I kept records of attempts, date time and place you would have them in this response.
You ask why would ‘they’ kill the ‘golden goose’? If you really knew what was occurring outside of your limited sources of information you would already know the answer to that question. Why have the Dems and their media arm, fake news, and the alphabet soup of civilian ‘intelligence’ agencies constantly attack every thing that Trump does – do you think that is for show or do they have a vested interested in bringing him or his family down by hook or by crook?
There has already been two coup attempts against Trump, the Russia Interference investigation, and the recent partisan impeachment. You don’t believe that there will be many players about to be locked up for their Treason?
Who do you believe has been controlling ALL the civilian ‘intelligence’ services? And why does Trump use Military Intelligence only and bypass the fake news with his tweets?
If Trump had attempted to lock up those who will be locked up soon, on his first days in office, I have no doubt he would have initiated another civil war. The ‘Q’ Military Intelligence operation was all about waking up the American people to what had, and what was continuing to control the United States. That operation has almost run its course with the ‘great awakening’ having taken place and that can easily be attested to by the huge numbers that turn our to Trump rallies. Why does he hold those rallies do you think?
Nemesis, I have appreciated many of your comments but you are digging a pit for yourself fit for a Sokushinbutsu.
But your latest comment is funny – in a sad sort of way.
“your understanding of the Yemeni conflict is abysmal”
“they are Iranian backed rebels attempting to eliminate the Yemeni regime”
So according to you certain rebels allegedly attempting to topple one ‘regime’ is bad, but you fervently back other groups of ‘rebels’ supported by the Israeli-led + US + Saudi [ete al] ‘coalition’ attempting to topple a popular, democratically government as in Syria. So now they need to import terrorists to fight off only those rebels threatening a given ‘regime’ that they don’t want toppled.
By the way, this headline would interest you …
** Saudis Transfer Hundreds of Al-Qaeda Terrorists To Yemen**
https://www.fort-russ.com/2020/02/major-saudis-transfer-hundreds-of-al-qaeda-terrorists-to-yemen/
So here we have the KSE/UAE redeploying hundreds of their al-Qaeda proxy terrorists to Yemen, just as the US has been redeploying numbers of them to Afghanistan (and Iraq), and just as Turkey has been redeploying theirs to Libya.
And these are the terrorists that you claim committed 9-11, and not a word about that whenever they are mentioned these days.
If only those careless women and children would stop getting in the way of this spreading of freedom and democracy.
At Least 30 Yemeni Civilians Killed in Saudi Airstrikes
https://www.fort-russ.com/2020/02/major-at-least-30-yemeni-civilians-killed-in-saudi-airstrikes
Media Silent as Saudi Arabia Devastates Yemen Into Famine
https://theantimedia.com/media-silent-saudi-yemen-famine/
(My limit is three links unfortunately)
Keep digging … and ringing that bell – Nirvana awaits.
Julius – your criticism is noted.
As for the Syrian conflict which was initiated by the Obama Administration with Secretary of State, Hilary Clinton at the helm. That conflict is no longer in operation since Trump came into office, and it is the presence of Iran on some old Syrian military bases who are goading Israel with constant rocket and various terrorist attacks, while refusing to leave Syria at Assad’s request, that is as usual stirring the unrest between Hamas and Israel.
I could care less what the Arabs do to each other in Yemen, they’ve been killing each other over their ‘religion’ ever since Islam became fashionable to warring desert tribes!
Russia is the nominal air-force in Syria and controls the air-space. So why do you believe the Russians allow Israeli bombers from time to time, to bomb the Iranian controlled military bases without trying to shoot them down?
After the 1967 war, there was stability within the region because Israel held the upper hand, but that all changed with the arrival of the Ayatollah Khomeni and the Islamic Revolution in Iran. The Middle East has never been the same since.
The greatest danger to any peace within the Middle East is Turkey and Iran.
As for my ‘fervor’ in defending Israel. I have made myself aware of the beginnings of how the Middle East conflict came about and will defend the only country that has been under constant attack ever since its formation in 1948 by the Globalist/Deep State actors, and there have been many, but, Israel has not only survived the onslaught, it prospers!
Expand your thinking because the Truth of anything, is not always palatable.
My short response
I appreciate your acknowledgement that the ‘the Syrian conflict’ was initiated by the Obama Administration with Secretary of State, Hilary Clinton at the helm. I would love to get your thoughts on the chemical attacks in the Ghouta area of Damascus (21 August 2013) and Douma on 7 April 2018 – and of the credibility of the OPCW.
The following link is for other readers, since you are no doubt already well briefed on these matters.
Project Balkanisation: Oded Yinon and an Enduring Plank of Israeli Foreign Policy
https://katehon.com/article/project-balkanisation-oded-yinon-and-enduring-plank-israeli-foreign-policy
“Ben-Gurion had wanted Israel’s northern border to extend to the River Litani. This was made clear through the **plans submitted to the Versailles Peace Conference in 1919 by the representatives of the Zionist movement**. The water resources provided by the Litani, the River Jordan, and the **Golan Heights** were considered to be essential prerequisites for the sustenance of the inhabitants of a future Jewish state.”
Hard to know where to begin discussing this stronghold of global terrorism you call a ‘state’, built on lies and hoaxes to the point of profound chutzpah, so to speak. We have previously covered the Balfour Declaration (see Truth Vigilante’s latest reference) , the boastful terrorist bombing of Hotel King David, the murderous strike on the USS Liberty and the declaration by Ehud Barak of the various ‘rogue states’ (quoted later by the Jew, Wesley Clark).
We could go back to the financing of Cromwell and beyond or confine ourselves to pondering the assassination of Russia’s Alexander II in 1881 by the Narodnaya Volya terrorist group which led to the first ‘pogrom’ where some property was “subjected to plunder” (Solzhenitsyn) and a few people suffered scratches, bruises and insults, with one or two – at most several – fatalities. And to think that Alexander II had abolished serfdom in Russia in 1861, two years before the Emancipation Proclamation of 1863. Alexander II was recognised as a great reformer in many other social and judicial areas, and yet he needed to be assassinated. But I digress …
How convenient was it that Ehud Barak was serendipitously seated in the BBC studios to provide commentary on the 9-11 ‘event’ when those 19 ‘Arab’ members of al-Qaeda perpetrated this antihuman atrocity. Barak could not wait to tell us about these ‘rogue states’ – a phrase you seem to like quoting from the approved lexicon.
On that very morning in 2001, as 9-11 was unfolding, Barak was calling for “pre-emptive strikes” against [quoting Barak] “rogue states – there are five of them – Iran, Iraq, Libya, and North Korea [?Syria must have slipped his mind]”.
By the way, I didn’t pick up on your response as to why ‘al-Qaeda’ are now being funded and armed by the very same people who accused them of perpetrating the outrageous atrocity 9-11. Come on – you can say it – “19 Arabs did 9-11!“ And we know that those nice five ‘Dancing Israelis’ were just there “to document the event”.
… and you still haven’t answered me – how was Iran involved in 9-11?
Aah – Hamas! I wonder if you have read “Son of Hamas” by Mosab Hassan Yousef (with ghost writer Ron Brackin). It is called ‘Son of …“ because Mosab introduces himself as the very son of the ‘spiritual leader’ and co-founder of Hamas, Sheikh Hassan Yousef.
At one point he writes … “And the Shin Bet always had my back.“ Quite a statement for the son of the spiritual leader of Hamas.
The book itself is extremely clumsily written – filled with many shoddy anecdotes like cheap brand placements (I wonder what else Ron Brackin has ghost written).
One of the things that stands out in Mosab Hassan Yousef’s story is how horribly the Israelis treat their political detainees – he himself is a victim. But he then goes on to emphasise how ‘his own people’, the Palestinians, are so much, much worse.
In one scene he describes how the Israelis force feed pornography – you know, the very stuff they themselves create in Hollywood – through the Palestinian television networks just to demoralised and add the ultimate insult of depravity to an otherwise relatively austere, god-faring and moral people.
You may know of Mosab as ‘The Green Prince’ – he’s quite a celebrity in Jerusalem.
“Son of Hamas” aka “Green Prince” speaks at Jerusalem Post 2016 Conference
The point is, either Mosab Hassan Yousef (The Green Prince) is a pathetic fraud or Hamas itself is fake (controlled opposition, so to speak) – which do you think?
If you say so…..
Iran should be honoured for providing funds , training & military assistance to Hamas & Fatah.
How else are the Palestinian people able to resist the daily human rights abuses on their countrymen by the IDF & illegal occupation of their country ?
Whatever funding Iran gives these organisations pales in comparison to the huge sums Israel receives courtesy of the U.S taxpayer ( not to mention the subsidised sale of armaments over the years ) .
As for the Saudis , I’m well aware of their disapproval of the Houthis displacing the puppet Saudi aligned regime but they should not be interferring in the internal politics of another country ( let alone launching a war of aggression against them ) .
If the Yemeni people are backing the Houthis ( & the majority are ) , then so be it.
The good news is that the Houthis have made great inroads on the ground – capturing 1000’s of Saudi troops ( many were Pakistani mercenaries ) :
With a little luck , they’ll capitalise on these successes & bring the entire degenerate Saudi regime down with it .
As for ‘ Q ‘ being the greatest military operation of our time , I’ll let others in the forum pass final judgement on that.
( Whatever Mossad operative or group of operatives Q turns out to be , he’s no Erich Von Manstein ) .
speaking of iran..
even though Iran was fully compliant…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_withdrawal_from_the_Joint_Comprehensive_Plan_of_Action
iran pre 1979
https://www.google.com/search?q=iran+pre+1979&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjm3J3Sk-LnAhVNcCsKHdoHBRAQ_AUoAXoECA4QAw&biw=1291&bih=873
post 1979 – thanks USA
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-10/guide-to-us-bases-surrounding-iran-in-the-middle-east/11855542
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/14/trump-administration-justifications-soleimani-killing/4463875002/
its like he is trying to initiate a(nother) war….
i could be wrong… maybe it is his sneaky way of bringing about world peace?
some will say, pronounce, declare… without any further backing… that the sources I cited are not credible, because perhaps they are not filled with rabid Islamophobic rhetoric.. but well…
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. !
another president… dem… republican… same difference..
neither Q or God will save us… pretty well up to us, and if history is any guide..
Truth – to understand the geopolitics involved within the Middle East one needs to thoroughly acquaint themselves with British meddling in that area before, during and after, World War One – hence my reference to Lawrence of Arabia.
And to understand how the British were able set up the Middle East to their own advantage, one needs to thoroughly understand Islam and the many sects within. The age of ‘terrorism’ has resulted in Muslim on Muslim killing that far exceeds anything the Globalist/Deep State controlled American Military or the Soviet Union have ever been guilty of.
Iran has been used as a destabilizing force throughout the Middle East since 1979 through its proxy armies – Hezbollah, Republican Guard. Iran is the driving force that keeps the ‘Palestinians’ baying for Israeli blood. Hezbollah has been listed as a terrorist organization by both the U.K. and the United States and soon to follow Australia.
And you should keep reminding yourself, that the United States has been under New Management since January 20, 2017, and is no longer under the control of the Globalist/Deep State which is the most obvious reason for why Trump is constantly under attack that you seen only too willing to ignore.
There have been four great events over the past 2000 years that has enabled the West to become the most advanced civilization – Jesus Christ, Magna Carta, The English Bill of Rights 1688, and the American Constitution and Bill of Rights. Without those events and the Human Rights that they have endorsed, we would not be having this ‘discussion’.
“neither Q or God will save us… pretty well up to us, and if history is any guide”
On this, I am in perfect agreement with you. Although, any help offered would be greatly appreciated.
I thought other readers may be interested in the following commentary from the ever insightful financial ( & sometimes geopolitical ) commentator Bill Bonner – talking about the Pentagon’s military misadventures in Iraq , Afghanistan & elsewhere in recent decades :
How many ordinary citizens would have been willing to sacrifice their children…or their money…to stomp on the Shiites, or the Sunni, or the Druze, or the Zoroastrians, the Kurds, the Wahabi, the Pashtuns, Punjabis, Balochs, Gilaks, Kawliya, Lurs, Mandeans, Mazanderani, Nawar, Tats, or any of the other strange tribes around the Mideast?
The homeland had no dog in any of those fights. Who were the good guys? Who were the bad guys? Who knew? Nobody…
But the Deep State didn’t need to know. The War on Terror brought the military and its contractors billions of dollars. It brought stock options, consulting gigs, think-tank sinecures, promotions, medals, and fancy houses in Northern Virginia.
To the military/industrial/surveillance chiefs, 56,000 American casualties, including 10,000 dead, and as many as a million deaths among the local people, must have seemed like a small price to pay. Compared to the First World War, Second World War, or Vietnam, it was a bargain.
Absolute priceless pearls of wisdom there .
Truth – Do you understand what occurred in America to turn the country into just another Imperialist Empire ala, the Roman and British Empires? Do you not see many similarities?
So Nemesis , you like to defend the only country ( Israel ) that has been under constant attack since it’s formation .
Perhaps by calling this land by it’s RIGHTFUL NAME ( ie : Occupied Palestine ) , that may give you some idea why the original inhabitants of the region ( the REAL Semites – the Palestinians who have been proven by DNA testing to be descendants of the peoples that occupied this land during Biblical times & beyond ) , are less than happy with the occupation by Ashkenazi Jews .
Yes Nemesis , these Ashkenazi Jews that now reside there have no bloodline relationship to the original inhabitants of ancient Judea. This is well documented.
Of course, one cannot say that about the Jewish communities in Iran , Iraq & elsewhere in other Arabic countries that have had a continuity of residence in that region for millennia .
As for Israel’s surviving & prospering, you would too if you were LARGEST RECIPIENT OF LARGESSE FROM THE U.S TAXPAYER in the last 70 years ( in the form of foreign aid & other perks – Zionist control of U.S Congressman & corporations has ensured a technology transfer to Israel & untold sums of investment ) .
As for the ‘onslaughts ‘ , that have been going on in the Middle East , using ANY metric you choose , it is Israel that has been dishing out said onslaughts on the Palestinians & those Arab neighbours that had the decency to fight the oppressors in the 1967 , 73 wars & subsequent skirmishes .
The Palestinians in Gaza , Hezbollah in southern Lebanon fire a few home made rockets at Israel which are little more than fireworks that have inflicted negligible damage if any.
Nemesis, I’m curious.
Why are you defending the Apartheid state of Israel – the perpetrator ( via the IDF ) , of some of the world’s most heinous human rights abuses post WW II ?
I would be ASHAMED to be putting up a defence for the indefensible.
Aren’t you just a teeny bit ( assuming you have any conscience at all ) embarassed ?
So, some might be asking , where do the Ashkenazi Jews that presently live in Occupied Palestine go ?
Well, that jewel of a woman & multi-decade member of the White House Press corps ( otherwise known as Helen Thomas ), answers that question comprehensively :
Another question Nemesis .
As you admit yourself , the formation of Israel came about due to the machinations of the Deep State actors. This fact is indisputable .
We’re well aware of the Balfour Declaration & Lord Rothschild’s input ( together with other powerful Zionist bankers / financiers to bring about U.S involvement in WW I in exchange for the promise of offering the Palestinian state as a Jewish homeland ).
Turning to the post-JFK era , we have the massive financial incentives from the Jewish lobby that have bought the allegiance of most U.S Senators & Congressman & thus control of U.S foreign policy.
So, even Blind Freddie can ‘ SEE ‘ who the prime entity within Deep State really is. ie: the Zionist banking cartel that controls the entire western financial system & was responsible for the formation of the state of Israel.
That being so, & seeing as Qanon & the Trump groupies are allegedly against the Deep State, HOW , f.f.s , can you support Israel ????
In light of the fact that the rabid Likudnic psychopaths that run Israel & the criminal Rothschild affiliated banking entities behind it are responsible for the bulk of the malfeasance in the world today , does this not disturb you even a little ??
Truth – the name ‘Palestine’ is a corrupted British term of the Roman name, ‘Philisitia’ to describe what was then known as the Roman provinces of Judea and Samaria. The term used by the Romans was in recognition that the land was unfit for Human habitation, or similar meaning.
The Roman General, Titus, who sacked Jerusalem in 70 AD had a Jewish scribe, Josephus, His knowledge is invaluable to enlighten one on those times.
Jews have inhabited the Lands of Judea and Samaria ever since the original Hebrews conquered the inhabitants known as the Canaanites – today’s Syrians, or close relatives of.
The lands of Judea and Samaria have been Jewish for nearly 3,200 years.
Please read my comment to Julius – your information on the Middle East needs to be updated.
Important to get certain facts & figures right
BUT
Just as important to acknowledge that the current State of Israel is intrinsically wicked
Israel has a Deep State too Berry – just like all Western countries.
Truth – More time on my hands today, so here is another response to your previous comment.
I see you drag up the old Chestnut concerning Israel about being an apartheid state. I would offer you the chance to look over the many political parties within the Knesset, and quite a few of those parties are of Arab representation within the Israeli parliament, but I will ask you this, why do you believe that Israel is an apartheid state, when Israel has many cultures within its borders?
And you believe Helen Thomas and of course, given much oxygen by a failing ‘news’ network that gets its ‘talking points’ at 4:00 AM meeting with reps from the Deep State as you would have already understood if you became familiar with the C_A operation, Mocking Bird.
And I thought you were smarter than that?
It is the President who controls Foreign Policy – that has always been the President’s preserve. Your reference to the House of Reps being able to control Foreign Policy comes from refusing to accept that the House is no longer influential in controlling Foreign Policy as it was prior to Trump becoming President. Trump is his own master on Foreign Policy, and that is just another reason the Globalist/Deep State continually attack him.
How many more examples of Globalist/Deep State attacks do you need before you will wake up to what Trump is really about?
You are on the wrong path if you believe what you write about the Globalist/Deep State controllers. Let me add this for your consumption:
There are many entities and connections that add up to the Globalist/Deep State, a term used because there are far too many ‘players’ within that system to list, although ‘Q’ has provided a spread sheet of every connection within the system that is simply, mind boggling! The list is almost endless! But, here’s a hint as to the top of the heap. There is a triad of control that consists within the City of London, The Vatican, and Washington D.C. they are separate entities that are generally in control of what others within the system do. Others within the top echelons of the system are Central Banks, All Corporations and All Western civilian ‘intelligence’ services. Then there is the ‘entertainment’ industry and ‘ballgames’ industry that include nearly all that one is able to watch, listen to, or take part in. As the old saying goes; Everything that is the Globalist/Deep State is hidden in plain sight.
But the real question should be: Who or what controls the top of the heap?
Your knowledge of Israel is counter to my knowledge of Israel. Israel too has its own Deep State, just as every other country has theirs. Israel is supported because Israel is the true path to peace in the Middle East, historically, economically, morally and democratically.
I see they have now even redefined or requalified the word ‘chutzpah’ as “usually used approvingly” so I won’t use it. We can come back to terms such as ‘morality’ another time but for now just a quote:
“The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn’t help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn’t help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. [For he] had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn’t remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.
Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.
I didn’t know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.”
Some reading material while I paraphrase (thanks to Terry Shultze) Will Durant’s perspective on ‘morality’ over the millennia.
Merchants of Sin: Part V – Psychoanalysis, Sexology, the Frankfurt and the “New Left”
https://merchants-of-sin.com/2017/03/01/part-v-psychoanalysis-sexology-and-the-new-left/
You must be familiar with the perverted ‘morality’ of Freud, Kinsey, Hirschfeld et al
Julius – you deflect with philosophical thought that does not address the real issues as being played out on a daily basis between Iran’s proxy irregular state of Gaza, as administered by a terror organization (Hamas and Fatah) and a country that operates under a recognized rule of law, Israel.
There is only one side in that conflict that has repeatedly rejected since 1948 their own recognized state while continually attacking the other, and as Trump’s peace plan still has wet ink on it, the so called ‘Palestinians’ have launched even more attacks against Israel and its people refusing any chance of peace between the two!
Have you not kept up with what is actually occurring over there, or are you gaining just one side of the whole story?
And, there is nothing more immoral and perverted than in perverting TRUTH itself! That you would latch onto a word (morality) used to describe only one side in a long war while ignoring the many recorded atrocities and lies by the other, places you in a position of weakness in being able to differentiate between the simple principles of good and evil regardless of the philosophy employed.
Julius – my time is limited today, so I will give you a short response to your much detailed comment – in general – regarding the Middle East.
You are correct that one needs to go back into history before all that unfolds before us today can be fully understood – so far back in fact that it is kept largely secret from us, and it takes the efforts of those who “‘seek and ye shall find” mentality to uncover.
And there is a very strong pointer in that which Christ warned us about regarding Babylon.
I am not aware that Iran provided any assistance in the 9/11 strike. I have come to learn that it was C_A and Mossad with Deep State assistance, that caused the 21st Century’s ‘Pearl Harbor’.
Obviously, the ‘recruited’ Muslims for that operation were in many ways, the Jews throughout history who have been used as scapegoats by the various megalomaniacs as recorded.
And it can be shown beyond any reasonable doubt, that Pearl Harbor 1941, was indeed a false flag event.
As for the current problems within the Middle East you could grab a good and very informative book that uses remorseful ex – C_A operatives and other reliable sources for its information. It is titled: The Secret War Against the Jews. That book will give you reliable inside info on most of those things you have raised within your comment.
Your reference to Ben Gurion is what he desired but never got. And the forming of the state of Israel was a very close run thing because most South American countries were against it. It took Israel agents with documentary evidence, to ‘persuade’ Nelson Rockefeller to ‘convince’ those South American countries to change their vote from No to Yes.
Nelson Rockefeller was heavily involved, along with the Bush’s and others, in selling much needed war materiel to the Nazis during WW2.
Keep on expanding that thinking.
Nemesis , I just noticed your posting from yesterday a moment ago.
Yes, I’m aware of the token representation of Arabs in the Israeli Knesset that have NO POWER & no ability to enact legislative reform.
Yes, I agree that many cultures are' within ' its borders. But let me define ' within '.
In the case of the Palestinians in Gaza, they are ‘within’ the razor wire tipped high walls of the world’s LARGEST OPEN AIR PRISON .
As to your question asking me : ‘ why I believe Israel is an Apartheid state ‘ I would answer with :
…. ‘ Oh , perhaps because there is a TSUNAMI OF EVIDENCE that Israel commits DAILY acts of human rights abuses against the Palestinians & outright genocide dating back to the Nakba of 1948 ‘ .
The fact that you play innocent by not acknowledging the crimes of the Israeli state (perpetuated via the IDF) tells me you’re likely a Jewish Zionist apologist or, even worse, a deluded Christian Zionist / Evangelist who goes in to bat for Israel at every opportunity & ignores the mass of objective evidence .
The Gumshoe readers are an intelligent lot & are well aware of the human rights abuses of the Israeli state ( which are orders of magnitude WORSE than anything that went on in Apartheid Sth Africa ).
But, for your benefit Nemesis I will include just a few ( of the literally tens of thousands I could inundate the comments section with ) , that I can locate on a few moments notice :
1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxlr_rfeiC0
2) https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/palestinian-genocide-5-100-000-palestinians-have-been-killed-since-1948.416222/
3) https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israeli-t-shirts-joke-about-killing-arabs/
4) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_MDC2Gty4I
The last one , featuring a Jewish lady by the name of Anna Baltzer is well worth your investment of 59 minutes.
She tells of the abuses of Palestinians in the Apartheid state of Israel , that she encountered in her short stay.
Nemesis , if you watch or read nothing else, at least take the time to hear the words of this courageous woman.
Truth – I missed your ‘daily Tsunami of Evidence’ could you please provide just one example of what you have quoted? And I will check on its veracity!
And you don’t seem to realize just how one sided your comment really is – just saying- because for a Truth Vigilante you are not living up to your own title!
Truth – for every Jewish traitor that you put up I can provide ten times that number who would condemn them.
I am now signing off on this thread
Fish , I have to pass comment on your posting on Feb 24 at 11,38pm .
In particular, the passage beginning : ‘ The more I argued with them , the more came to know their dialectic ‘ .
It is a BLOODY BEAUTY that I have copied & pasted it – to be saved in perpetuity .
It is the most profound thing I’ve read in a long while.
It totally encapsulates the dialogue I tend to have with one-eyed apologists for the genocidal state of Israel .
Thank you my friend .
The source – towards the end of Chatper II 😊
https://www.unz.com/book/adolf_hitler__mein-kampf/
Nemesis, as to your comment about Gaza being administered by the ‘ terror organisation ‘ Hamas & Fatah , I really need to ask you what Orwellian world you live in ( where up is down , left is right & good is bad ) ?
The Palestinian people are the descendants of those peoples that lived in these lands since Biblical times & beyond.
We have a foreign backed occupying force that forcibly murders huge swathes of the local population & relocates the rest ( huge numbers of the Palestinian diaspora now reside in Jordan , Lebanon & neighbouring states – not to mention the millions more scattered around the globe )..
Those that remain resists the occupiers .
Hamas & Fatah , judged by any objective criteria are FREEDOM FIGHTERS .
Nemesis, what don't you understand about this simple concept ?
Truth – your knowledge of who the so called ‘Palestinian’ people are is scant. Berry put up a good link that an ‘honest’ Iman is featured in, and who could put you in the ‘picture’ about your so called, ‘Palestinians’, but I guess you have chosen to ignore his historical information in your quest to uphold one side of this conflict that if you have chosen above all the available evidence, to champion.
Do you realize that by championing Gaza, you are dancing to the Globalist/Deep State tune?
I guess you could not be bothered as well in even trying to understand, let alone research, what I have pointed you to in regards the history, and history that you purposefully ignore in order to get your point across.
The so called ‘Palestinians’ are in Gaza of their own choosing from 1948 when they refused their own state, side by side with Israel. Do you deny that? And they have refused their own state since then on four separate occasions – it’s all recorded for you to see.
Here is an analogy of you and Julius on historical Fact. You both take a book that you have not read and allow it to open around the middle. In your eagerness to understand the gist of the book, you then begin reading to the end, ignoring the important information in the first half, while hoping to understand what the whole book is really trying to tell you.
Truth – one must first know history (all of it!) before coming to a conclusion on anything, because everything of importance in this world has a beginning, a middle and an end.
The history of the Middle East goes back thousands of years. The history has been manipulated by many conquerors, but those you champion as the ‘Palestinians’ only ventured into the lands of Judea and Samaria after taking Jerusalem around 980 AD under the conqueror Saladin, whereas the Hebrews aka, Jews, have inhabited various parts of the land continuously for over 3200 years.
Expand your thinking.
Nemesis, looking back at some of your posts , I notice that you use the American spelling for words like … civilisation & Pearl Harbour (you wrote … civilization & harbor ) .
I’m aware that Israeli born English speakers tend to spell the American way & speak with a distinctive seppo twang ( like your good mate Bibi Netanyahu ) .
I think most of the other readers have long suspected you're either a paid troll working out of Mossad H.Q in Herzliya or one of the numerous sayanim automatons scattered around the world ( your defence of Israel & all its atrocities at every opportunity has blown your cover ).
Yes Nemesis , I don’t doubt that you can provide 10 times as many rabid Zionists with a counter argument for every beautiful human being like Anna Baltzer that I put forward ( after all , your peer group in downtown Tel Aviv will no doubt consist of other fanatics like yourself ).
When I say Anna Baltzer is beautiful , I don’t refer to the superficial – although she is decidedly easy on the eye.
She is beautiful on the inside & has real empathy for the downtrodden – something you sadly lack.
Nemesis, when you said : ‘ For every Jewish traitor that I put up , you can provide ten times that number who would condemn them ‘ , everyone in the forum immediately grasped that you’re a Zionist stooge.
No non-partisan individual would FROTH AT THE MOUTH with a response like that .
You do indeed have a dog in the race.
Listening to the words of the Jewish Anna Baltzer, an educated & objective observer telling it like it is , REALLY GOT UNDER YOUR SKIN .
You couldn’t pull out the old ‘ race card ‘ trick & call her an anti-Semite.
OUCH !!
well, hi…?
Hey Justin .
I’m not sure if you’ve been following the interchange I’ve been having with Nemesis in recent times but, if you look at Nemesis’ posts in this article alone , do you notice a commitment from Nemesis to defend ( to the death ) the apartheid state of Israel ?
Why, it appears to me as though he’s acting out of loyalty & patriotism for the motherland.
What’s your two cents on this ?
The short reply would be that Jews seem to be idolised for the very same things that white supremacists are demonised for.
I can’t remember how we arrived at this particular topic (apartheid), but it is very interesting and profoundly important. So further to Truth Vigilante’s links including in particular by Anna Baltzer, here are a few more related articles for the debate and for general consumption. (I think I am only allowed three links so I have split these into a couple of posts and, taking a leaf out of Dee’s playbook, will hide a couple with leading asterisks.)
Rabbi Dovid Weiss: Zionism has created ‘rivers of blood’
Professor Richard Falk’s speech at the First Global Conference on Israeli Apartheid
Here is his report (pdf)
Economic and Social Commission for Western Asia (ECSWA)- Israeli Practices towards the Palestinian People and the Question of Apartheid
https://oldwebsite.palestine-studies.org/sites/default/files/ESCWA%202017%20%28Richard%20Falk%29%2C%20Apartheid.pdf
BTW, “In 1966, the [UN] General Assembly labelled apartheid as a crime against humanity.“
****https://legal.un.org/avl/ha/cspca/cspca.html
and this is universally reinforced to this day (2002 Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court).
Part 2 …
Israel: democracy or apartheid state?
https://israelpalestinenews.org/israel-democracy-or-apartheid-state/
Experts: Israeli System Constitutes Apartheid, Crime against Humanity – Israeli Apartheid
https://israelpalestinenews.org/experts-israeli-system-constitutes-apartheid-crime-against-humanity/#thevideos
and see “Related Reading” at end of articles
Indeed – “If [only] America [the World] Knew” – it is indeed waking up … exponentially.
Justin, you succinctly stated what are lot of people are feeling.
As for you Fish, your posts are in keeping with the high standard of your output from day one .
You know, Nemesis asked me WHERE this ‘ tsunami of evidence ‘ is that Israel is an apartheid state committing heinous human rights abuses .
Fish , I have no doubt that the several postings you have made alone on this issue are only scratching the surface & that you could double the tsunami of evidence ( at a minimum ) of anything I could possibly unleash on Nemesis.
On several occasions Nemesis has mouthed platitudes like ‘ Expand you Thinking ‘ at the rest of us , yet never bothers to do the same himself by reviewing the fact checked research we’ve offered for his perusal.
Fish, your video of Rabbi Dovid Weiss is a must watch for anyone that hasn't seen it.
I didn’t get around to seeing Prof Richard Falk when he spoke at the NSW Parliament last year but this courageous Jewish man is a beacon of light in the world of academia.
Nemesis , you could learn a lot from this man – perhaps some empathy for the plight of the Palestinian people .