by Mary W Maxwell, LLB
It makes me so sad that our institutions have gone bad. Being a reasonable person I like to think that when I hit an interpersonal problem I can show the way out by reasoning.
In regard to what we have been covering at Gumshoe about Family Law, one can easily identify two areas in which one’s normal human reactions have to be restrained.
One is the threat of being held in contempt of court if you to explain reasonably what’s going on.
The other is dealing with police who have now been trained to see citizens as the enemy. So if you “stand up to them” they can find a way to charge you with unruly behavior, resisting arrest, or whatever. Having committed no crime you now commit the crime of reasoning. All very frightening!
Sherman Skolnick
The late Sherman Skolnick was an activist in Chicago who formed a group called “Clean Up the Courts.” Before Youtube was available, he ran a cable TV show that stirred up a lot of people. I believe he was self-trained in law, or possibly had a law degree. In either case, he knew his onions.
Skolnick was an Orthodox Jew who credited his parents for his moral righteousness. I believe he got polio ion the 1955 epidemic. He spent at least his later decades in a wheelchair, and died at age 77.
The following is a transcript of his interactions with a judge for which he twice went to jail, although only one night each time. You will see that he had right on his side, but that the judge does not think arguing the right should be done before the Bench. American right to free speech doesn’t work in this place. (Below, all bolding was added by me, and I abridged it.)
Transcript from April 25, 1979
Sherman Skolnick v. State Indiana Court of Appeals
Precedential Status: Precedential. Citations: 388 N.E.2d 1156. Docket Number: PS 356. STATON, Judge.
Sherman H. Skolnick was convicted twice in the Porter Superior Court of direct criminal contempt on July 16, 1975. On July 21, 1975, Skolnick was convicted of direct criminal contempt for a third time. For each conviction Skolnick was sentenced to twenty-four hours’ incarceration in the Porter County Jail.
Skolnick has appealed the three direct contempt convictions in two separate causes…. In addition to alleging insufficiency of the evidence supporting the convictions (I.), Skolnick contends: II. the trial judge failed to comply with direct contempt procedural requirements when he convicted Skolnick; III. the trial judge erred in not providing Skolnick with counsel; IV. the trial judge denied Skolnick his privilege against self-incrimination; V. Skolnick was “entrapped” into committing direct contempt; VI. the direct contempt convictions violated Skolnick’s right to freedom of speech;
VII. the trial judge erred in quashing Skolnick’s subpoenas duces tecum and in foreclosing Skolnick’s further use of the subpoena process.
PSC 354
The record indicates that on July 16, 1975, Skolnick testified as a witness during a show cause hearing in Portage National Bank v. Skaggs. Skolnick was called as a witness in the action by Anderson, counsel for the plaintiff Bank.
Anderson examined Skolnick on how much help Skolnick gave to the defendants, who were appearing pro se, in preparing two motions they filed with the trial court..
Skolnick also stated that he believed the trial judge to be corrupt and to have breached judicial ethics. For these remarks the trial judge found Skolnick twice in direct criminal contempt and sentenced him to two twenty-four hour jail terms.
- Sufficiency
Skolnick’s first direct contempt conviction came after the following exchange in open court:
“MR. SKOLNICK: Judge, look, it is no secret that I’m investigating your corruption. He’s trying to accuse me of practicing law as the chairman of a citizens group.
“THE COURT: Mr. Skolnick, answer the question.
“MR. SKOLNICK: I shouldn’t be in this Court. You’re trying to get me on something. You’re trying to question me on irrelevant matters. If I had an attorney representing me, he would object to this.
“THE COURT: Mr. Skolnick ____
“MR. SKOLNICK: It is no secret I’ve made public statements about you, I shouldn’t be in this court and I shouldn’t be here with you sitting on what I say and what I don’t say.
“THE COURT: Mr. Skolnick, answer the question that’s been put to you.
“MR. SKOLNICK: I have answered the question.
“THE COURT: Will you re-ask the question.
“Q. Whose idea, Mr. Skolnick, what it that this form be used for the filing ____
“A. I do not recall.
“Q. You do not know at all?
“A. And I don’t feel safe at making answers in the presence of him when I’ve made public statements that I’m out to get him indicted. He being the Judge, Alfred J. Pivarnik.
“THE COURT: All right. Mr. Skolnick are you sitting here in this Court and calling me corrupt? Is that what you’re doing?
“MR. SKOLNICK: I am of that opinion as the head of a citizens group. I’ve said it publicly that I believe you’re corrupt. I believe that there’s been the appearance of impropriety in respect to you and violation of judicial ethics and I believe that I, the member of the public, could make such comment outside of Court which I have.
“THE COURT: I’m aware of that. I’m aware of that. You’re not outside of Court Mr. Skolnick, you’re inside of Court, you’re here as a witness.
“MR. SKOLNICK: But it’s unfair for you to be ruling on me because you are trying to use him (pointing to Mr. Anderson) to ask me questions about what I do as the head of the citizens committee to clean up the court which is not your business.
“THE COURT: Do you realize Mr. Skolnick enough about the law to know that you have just charged me with a very serious charge?
“MR. SKOLNICK: I have not charged you, I’ve said it as of my opinion ____
“THE COURT: Are you telling me that I have set up this situation to have a lawyer come in here and set you up because of my corruption?
“MR. SKOLNICK: I have no personal knowledge but I’m of the belief that you did because it serves your purpose and if it serves your purpose, I’m entitled to believe ____
“THE COURT: And what purpose are you refering [sic] to, Mr. Skolnick?
“MR. SKOLNICK: To discredit me so that my statements, such as I intend to make on the radio such as Alex Bottas [sic], my chief investigator has made and intends to make on WLNR this Thursday accusing you will be discredited and be reported in the paper that you threatened me with arrest or contempt for failure to answer this that or the other. All in respect that a charge that I’ve made which I’m entitled to make about your breach of judicial ethics. I’m entitled to have that opinion.
“THE COURT: Is that your opinion now? You’re telling me that I did this?
“MR. SKOLNICK: I’m saying that I believe that you did it. I’m saying that we’re investigating certain matters, we’re a citizens group that has been involved for 13 years in investigating charges and our record is a matter of record. We have put 12 judges either off the bench or into jail. I’ll give you a list of them if Your Honor wants to know. Since that is so, he serves your purpose whether you conspired exactly or not this man, Mr. Anderson, serves your purpose to discredit me by asking about what I do as the head of the citizens committee to clean up the courts in respect to members which is not your business or Mr. Anderson’s.”
Skolnick was again convicted of direct contempt a short time later for this assertion in open court:
“MR. SKOLNICK: I’m saying that you as a corrupt judge staged this to arrest me, that’s what I’m stageing [sic]. I want to get some help.”
[The Law To Be Applied]
Indiana statutes define direct criminal contempt as follows:
“34-4-7-1 [3-901]. Direct — Disturbing business of court. — Every person who shall, by the commission of any felony, misdemeanor, or other unlawful act; or who by talking, moving about, or by signs, or gestures, or in any other manner, in any court of record, while the same is open for the transaction of business, and engaged therein, create any noise or confusion therein, whereby the business and proceedings of said court shall be disturbed, shall be deemed to be guilty of a direct contempt of said court.”
“34-4-7-2 [3-902]. Direct — Refusing to testify — Demeanor on witness stand. — Every person who, being sworn to testify as a witness in any court of record, in any trial or proceeding therein, shall refuse to testify touching the same; or who, being required by any court to be sworn in any such trial or proceeding, shall refuse to take an oath or affirmation therein; or who, while upon the witness stand, shall purposely so demean himself, as to retard or disturb the proceeding thereof, shall be deemed guilty of a direct contempt thereof.”
These statutory definitions are not all-inclusive of what constitutes direct criminal contempt; they are merely legislative recognition of the court’s inherent power to cite and punish for contempt. Indiana courts have ruled further that one may be in direct contempt for filing in open court pleadings containing contumacious statements. Kerr v. State (1923). Direct contempt was deemed to be “any act which manifests a disrespect for and defiance of a court.” The act must be committed in the presence of and with knowledge of the court. Brennan v. State (1961).
After examining the record we conclude that Skolnick’s conduct warranted his two convictions for direct criminal contempt.
… [Skolnick’s] statements were made in the presence of the trial judge, and they retarded the progress of the Skaggs proceedings. The trial judge acted properly in summarily and immediately convicting Skolnick in order to preserve order in and respect for the court.
In concluding that the evidence before us is sufficient to affirm the two direct contempt convictions, those questions remaining for our consideration concern whether any alleged procedural irregularities, violation of Skolnick’s constitutional rights, or abuses of discretion will work to overturn the convictions.
- Contempt Procedure
Skolnick maintains that the trial judge never set out a written statement describing the allegedly contumacious conduct and never gave Skolnick the opportunity to respond to the charges before convicting him.
…Before an individual may be convicted of direct contempt, the court must“distinctly” state the act, words, signs or gestures, or other conduct of the defendant which is alleged to constitute such contempt; and such statement shall be reduced to writing … together with any statement made in explanation, extenuation, or denial thereof, which the defendant may make in response thereto …”
… A trial judge’s recital of mere conclusions as to the conduct is not a sufficient statement. See, e.g., State ex rel. Stanton v. Murray (1952), (statement reciting conclusion that appellant made statements before the court in a “rude, insolent and disrespectful manner” held insufficient); see also State ex rel. Allen v. Vermillion Circuit Court (1967).
The purpose behind the requirement is twofold. It provides the alleged contemnor with a concise record of why he was found in contempt and thus assists him in setting his course for an appeal. But more importantly, it works to diminish the possibility of arbitrary and rash action on the part of the trial judge, since he is forced to articulate the basis for his finding.
… Although the trial judge in the present case made no such written record of Skolnick’s conduct before convicting him, we are easily able to discern the nature of that conduct from the transcript of the July 16 proceedings. The trial judge’s failure in this respect does not hamper our ability to examine the instant case. …Hence, Skolnick has not shown how he has been harmed by the absence of a written statement describing his conduct. The failure of the trial judge to provide one does not warrant reversal of the two direct contempt convictions.
[All emphasis added]
See what I mean? When you are in court and have the brains to be able to reason something out, a judge can prevent your doing so.
Case closed.
— Mary Maxwell is on record as citing Skolnick as her “rabbi,” in her book Fraud Upon the Court: Reclaiming the Law, Joyfully
Same as drugs at festivals to be designed as criminal rather than docters checking and testing drugs, government need to make criminals to make use of prisons and to support the nannie state.
Not really the same. Drugs have been illegal for a long time, That one’s really pretty open and shut. There aren’t really any reason-based arguments to be made once caught. changing the Law is a different matter entirely.
A judge might be able to block reason-based argument, however what most people fail to grasp is that refusing to accommodate such tactics in any way will ultimately put the Reasoner in a much better position than otherwise.
Which goes to the fact that such judges will do whatever it takes to save themselves from being confronted Reason(what goes on behind closed doors has a lot more clout than what happens in any courtroom)
that should read “confronted by a Reasoner”
In 2007 I witnessed a certain Magistrate disintegrate into a complete tantrum in response to being confronted like so. There was never any formal acknowledgement that she was out of line but hey presto, the case wound up being determined by an “outside” officer who did all that could possibly have been expected( the System being what it is) to smooth out an embarrassing mess
Berry, I don’t really follow you. If you would, please say what Skolnick should have done.
Nothing. So far as I’m concerned the above exert of transcript testifies an ABSOLUTE win.
There’s even mainstream acknowledgement that the guy made remarkable headway:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Skolnick
Pity I can’t forsee any parallel achievements ever happening in Australia
According to the promo of OVERTHROW OF THE AMERICAN REPUBLIC “twenty judges and over forty attorneys went behind bars as a result of Skolnick’s public exposure of their crimes “:
https://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-American-Republic-Writings-Skolnick/dp/1893302229?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-ffnt-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=1893302229
Sounds like its worth a read!
This may be a good time to throw a plug for Kangaroo Court of Australia and Shane Dowling out there for anyone who hasn’t seen it yet.
https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/
Thanks, Paul.
Give the barebones of the case here if you wish. I thought Shane was jailed and out a long time ago. BUt now I see that it is recent, and that that he’s going to get a merciful release on Dec 21.
Winter solstice type thing.
The Kangaroo Court website probably is a bit shocking for many people. They just can’t believe that the judicial system is so completely wacko. Here’s Shane’s post on the crazies of Jennifer Betts and Brian Maloney. – https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2011/06/18/judging-judges-and-the-mental-illness-defence/
Really, you would have to appear before someone like Betts to fully understand that there are people on the bench that have serious mental health issues – fruitcake, nutcase, space cadet stuff that affects your own mental health just listening to them.
Betts and Maloney had so many complaints that there was an inquiry and they both pleaded mental illness and promised to stay on their meds – REALLY!
I always wanted to ask them before I began my case, “Has your Worship taken your meds today?”
Then there was Pat O’Shane. Crikey, another out to lunch fruitcake that I always got an appeal to the District Court from – the woman was a money spinner for me. In her case I diagnosed her as alcohol related brain damage. Whatever was going on in her head was from a parallel universe that would scare the crap out of Alice in Wonderland.
Proof that the word “court” still means a bunch of aristocratic inbreeds
Terry, had to laugh, been there with all three.
One instance with Pat; on mention before all the punter’s hopefull jockeys. Her ‘Worship’ (as she then was) asked me what the defence was.
I merely replied:: not guilty your H.
Well, was that a surprise to HH.
She put us over past morning tea and after another hearing day later, threw out the charge against my 2 fellows. (not leave licenced premises [as defined by the licence plan restricted to the building.])
No appeal ……… wrong charge by the coppers, my fellows were at the tables on the footpath!
Not sure if she realised that an order to move away so many metres would have produced a different plea.
You are missing so much entertainment.
Entertainment? It took me five years before I could start laughing at the absurdity of it all.
The punters think that when they go to court there is a rational person sitting there weighing the evidence on the scales of justice. – Crikey, some of the looks on their faces are still ingrained on my mind.
Ned and I have laughed about just three Magistrates, but the system is bigger than that. Maybe the system kept those three fruit-loops on the Bench to make the rest of them look good. However, not all Magistrates were complete fools.
I remember a Magistrate I met out on circuit in the Bush. He immediately grasped the written law, the concepts of justice and the evidence – I was impressed with his ability, a lawyer’s lawyer.
I ran into him three times and each time it was the same rational, intelligent, well informed judgement. I thought, “How come this bloke hasn’t been bumped up to the Court of Appeal for a couple of years to show what he can do and then gone on to the High Court?”
The realization came to me that he represented a threat to the mediocre POS on the Bench and he would never be allowed to leave that circuit in the bush.
Dear Colleagues, For technical reasons there won’t be a new Gumshoe article today, but the International Tribunal for Natural Justice has come out with new testimony.
My wi-fi reception is lousy but I noted only, at the one-hour mark, that the cross-examiner asked him about doctors’ involvement.
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Mary you probably will recognize that man’s law is a lie.
No man can write laws governing other men if it is not in harmony with natural law.
Natural law does not need to be written down. Natural law just exists and is immutable and in effect 24/7 whether we believe in it or not.
If one shut down the legal system the world would be a much better place after a little time for adjusting to reality.
Mary the link above has an misspelling f in youtube