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No Bill of Attainder Shall Be Passed against Trump

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(L) Elvis has left the building (C) James Madison, Portait: TheFederalistPapers.org (R) Georgia state Rep David Clark, Photo: Atlanta Constitution Journal via AP

by Mary W Maxwell, LLB

Article I, section 9 of the US Constitution says “No Bill of Attainder shall be passed.” The effort to punish Trump by means other than a timely impeachment (too late now) or a proper conviction by a court for crime (no indictment yet) is a bad joke.

People are saying we need unity.  I suppose that’s true, but we should also remember the joy and comfort of cozying up to our mother’s bosom, i.e., the Constitution.

The solution to our problems is always to be found there.

We definitely should quit playing legalistic or mathematical games to find a way to punish any citizen, and Donald Trump is but a citizen now.

His presidency did end on January 20th, by means fair or foul. Donald J Trump is no longer the Executive officer of this land (to which I say Thank God, but that is just a personal statement).

“Tainting” a person was quite the game in Tudor England, and under the Stuarts it hopped a ride on The Mayflower to our sunny shores. But the Framers of the Constitution, in the hot summer of 1787 in Philadelphia’s Convention Hall, said “Forget it.”

The Framers not only wrote as plain as plain can be, “No Bill of Attainder shall be passed,” they even specified, in Article III, section 3, that the punishment for treason would have limitations:

“The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.”

(Corruption of blood caused your progeny to inherit your punishment.)

Senator Rand Paul Jumping Up and Down 

It is nice to see Rand jumping up and down again. He has been looking subdued since his injury (the blow to his back ribs, which I believe was delivered by a Manchurian Candidate).

Now he is yelling not only that Congress mustn’t pass a bill of attainder, but that this is the gist of the effort to convict Trump via the impeachment process, after having left office.  I agree. It would be a bill of attainder by any other name.

Separately, Senator Paul makes the point that the Senate should not proceed with a trial to convict on the basis of the House’s one Article of Impeachment of Trump for inciting violence on January 6, 2021.

Correct again.  Everybody knows that the Constitution’s solution to the problem of a bad man in the White House (or a bad judge in the court, or a bad Secretary of Defense at the Pentagon, etc) is to show them to the door.

Article II, section 4:

“The President, Vice President and all Civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

Fine, but Trump is not a president, a vice president, or a Civil Officer, so no dice. DO NOT CONVICT. It would be, as is so common these days, a hit on our mom, the Constitution.

Here is what James Madison, age 37, said on July 20, 1787. (You’ll find this is at Founders.Archives.gov.) He refers to himself in the third person:

“Mr. Madison thought it indispensable that some provision should be made for defending the Community agst the incapacity, negligence or perfidy of the chief Magistrate. The limitation of the period of his service, was not a sufficient security. He might lose his capacity after his appointment. He might pervert his administration into a scheme of peculation or oppression. He might betray his trust to foreign powers….”

Of course, of course, everybody knows that was the purpose of creating a way to impeach a president.

Still, I Blame Rand Paul

We need to sort out whether the president did or did not incite violence. I have seen evidence both pro and con.  If the Senate does go ahead with a trial (slated to fail of convicting, owing to the present headcount of GOPers), we would at least get info under oath about the events of January 6.

However, the new DoJ persons are likely to take care of that by bringing criminal charges against the 148 invaders of the Capitol.

What do I blame Senator Paul for? For preventing a trial of Trump back in February 2020. He and colleagues were able to skip it because “they had the numbers.” Very naughty, a hit on Mom. It’s every senators’ duty to try the person.  What dirt were they afraid might come out?

The first of the two Articles of Impeachment from the 2020 extravaganza alleged that Trump had “abused power.” He purportedly told Ukraine’s leader that US Aid would be withheld if Ukraine failed to look into crimes of Hunter Biden. (Does the name Burisma ring a bell?)

I was disgusted that, when the GOP has a majority in the Senate – ah, those halcyon days, – they stooped so low as to pretend the US has a Westminster-style government. No. Mom is not a British constitution. Mom has nothing to say about Parties. There are no Parties on the Hill as far as the US Constitution is concerned. Granted you’d never know that from listening to the nightly news on CNN.

Is Any Former President in Want of a Criminal Indictment?

No doubt criminal charges could be brough today against Obama, Bill Clinton, Bush, and Trump. (Offhand, I can’t think of any for Carter). And maybe their respective vice-presidents.

Basically, it seems wise to refrain from charging an ex-president, as we Americans would like to preserve a feeling of respect and honor about all our Chiefs. Actually, we may be able to honor them more of we did lower the boom on any criminal presidents. Some countries throw their ex-prime ministers in jail every chance they get. But for me, I could do without.

Finally, There are voices talking about using the 14th Amendment as a way of treating Trump as an insurrectionist or rebel, a la the Civil War. There be a provision there for keeping such a person from ever holding office again. Thank you but I won’t dignify it with a discussion

An Interesting Update

I was shocked to see a headline about “a rep expelled from the chamber” for not taking a Covid test. But on closer read, the story is about a state rep from Georgia, David Clark. He did break a law, but he says his expulsion was vengeance by the Speaker of the House, David Ralston.

“Mr. Clark had earlier demanded Mr. Ralston’s ouster after an Atlanta Journal-Constitution investigation found that the speaker, who is a lawyer, used his political post to delay court cases for clients accused of child molestation, domestic abuse, and rape, among other charges.

‘“The speaker is trying to crucify me for this because of what I’ve done to him in the past,’ Mr. Clark said.”

If so, the chamber can expel Ralston.

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  1. “is a bad joke.” That sums it up for me. Looking back over the “election” and the “fraud”, one wonders what reality the courts and constitution exist in. Is Biden just the president of Washington DC a bankrupt corporation?

    With regard to law and order and anything related to crime: After dealing with child “protection” almost exclusively for the last two years, I now believe we are LOST as a society. If we cannot protect the most innocent — but societal structures actually deliberately harm them — then society has imploded. Maybe it has always been this way. But I want no part of it. If this is not resolved in some way, the sapiens species is going DOWN the evolution toilet.

    • Dee, been there, done that. – I remember George Carlin saying in an interview, “I gave up on my species”.

      And so have I. – I’ve withdrawn into a small community of mostly like minded rural folks. However, in Australia the overall political, judicial, medical, educational, etc. system has been so corrupted as to not have any credibility, I feel it is corrupt beyond salvation, if someone else wants to expend their time and energy trying to turn it all around, have at it, I’ve done my dash.

      I use the analogy of standing in the middle of the road while a truck is bearing down on you – go ahead, pretend the truck isn’t coming or wave hysterically. However, there are others who will get out of the road, I’m one of those ‘others’.

    • Every man-made way of dealing with sin or improving life by any other means is destined to ultimately implode
      Injustice can be turned arse about face but as it’s not an earthly process it usually goes unnoticed

      • Most people are just too preoccupied with the idea of a bells-and-whistles showdown, the “Q” movement being a classic case in point

    • “Looking back over the “election” and the “fraud”, one wonders what reality the courts and constitution exist in.” – Dee, I just saw a picture of ‘Ho Harris’ laughing her head off. Soon that POS will be the ‘Commander in Chief’ of the American military.

      Crikey, I can’t imagine how some battle hardened warriors are going to respond to having to salute and give deference to that election stealing, pathological lying, two-bit whore as their boss. – That should be it, the bottom of the barrel for the American Empire – but who knows, it could go lower LOL!

      • Terry, when Kamala becomes POTZUS, she’ll have to appoint a V.P, who could well turn out to be Adam Schiff or even Hillary.

        So yes, still room to descend further into the abyss.

        • TV, have to love your predictions. You are so blessed to be able to tell us of reality, based on your; research, intellect, assessment and infallible predictions.
          We are so grateful for your insight.
          We are all obliged and will recommend the order of Australia for you next year.

          • Hey, Orders of Australia might be worth something now the wokerati are handing them back over Margaret Court’s OoA.

          • Thanks Ned, the OAM will suffice for starters – although a Dukedom would be more appropriate.

            As for my ‘intellect’, I have to confess that it’s not my handiwork in fact, as I have been relying on the intellect and wisdom of others.
            These ‘others’ have a loooooong history of integrity and honesty, and have sacrificed greatly in their pursuit of the truth (as opposed to your sources which are all Johnny-Come-Latelys whose employment history is unknown to all – a sure sign they’re disinfo operatives).

            No surpises then that Zio-Dave and is ilk have an abysmal record.

      • Isaiah 3 10 “Say to the righteous that it shall be well with them, For they shall eat the fruit of their doings. 11 Woe to the wicked! It shall be ill with him, For the reward of his hands shall be given him. 12 As for My people, children are their oppressors, And women rule over them. O My people! Those who lead you cause you to err,

    • Dee, – Re “I now believe we are LOST as a society.”

      If U can get your head around that – this must happen –
      Grab your bible and read how Jesus knew he must die – and be reserrected – for us.
      This is the same scenario – IT MUST HAPPEN – It is entirely preordained.

      If you look at society’s path, if you concentrate your attention upon particular sections of the the journey THEREIN – yes you will see “lost” – because , well, that’s what Satan’s goal is.

      However when you cast your view upon Gods GOAL the view is entirely altered.
      That is – Gods goal for us through Christ. – Offering YOU Your salvation. AVALABLE TODAY PERSONALLY. – Just ask !!!
      It’s all there Dee.

      “Society” by the way has been “lost” (infiltrated) for a long, LONG time –
      JUST DONT JOIN IN. You don’t have to you know.

  2. PQTUS Donald John Trump is no ordinary citizen. The cabal HATE him because he exposed all of them, dimz and ripz. IF you can’t see the vote/ballot fraud OR the evil our elected/non-elected/appointed federal/state governments have become, YOU are the problem.
    Keep pushing Patriots, the rest of you comi-pinko bastards can go pound sand or chip some ice. Justice is coming, either through UCMJ or through Jesus. tiQ-tQq. Sometimes you have to walk through the darkness to get to the LIGHT. In the end, one way or another the LIGHT ‘always’ wins.

    • TxVet, can you name one, just ONE individual in the Zio-cabal that Trump has exposed and prosecuted that is now incarcerated ?

      Trump’s GUTLESSNESS in failing to pardon the likes of Julian Assange, whilst simultaneously pardoning a procession of war criminals and Zio-miscreants, is proof of who he really is :

      https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/trumps-unpardonable-pardons/

      From the article above :

      “Another person pardoned by Trump was Sholam Weiss, a Hasidic businessman from New York who was sentenced to more than 800 years in prison in 2000 for racketeering, wire fraud and money laundering connected to a huge fraud scheme…. “.

      TxVet, think about that paragraph above.

      Trump’s Jewish mate was not exactly in gaol on a misdemeanour.

      Trump’s Hasidic mate was incarcerated for EIGHT HUNDRED YEARS !!

      (Serial killers don’t get sentences that long).

      Let’s face it, this guy did some serious SH*T.

      But Trump pardoned him in preference to Julian Assange.

      If you can’t see that Trump was a sock puppet of his Zio-masters, you are delusional my friend.

  3. Child “protection” is surely an oxymoron. CP is just another way the devils have figured out how to get their claws into our most vulnerable. Maybe PQTUS can fix that too. Watch. NO ONE has conceded. The capital building is a prison complete with NG prison guards, no matter where they sleep. Don’t give in Don’t surrender. Watch. dark to LIGHT.
    tiQ-tQq.

  4. Mass Covid-19 screening in Beijing after two cases of strain found in Britain
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3118908/mass-covid-19-screening-beijing-after-two-cases-strain-found

    “More than 1,200 people were tested at a school attended by one pupil with an asymptomatic case of the British strain. Each of the contacts at the school had nasal, saliva and anal swabs as well as serum tests – all of which were negative.”

    “and anal swabs”?

    The government is really playing us for fools.

  5. Desperate for some vigilante’s truth. What the F do we Know. HELP.!
    Back to reality and looking forward to some of our truth knowing all, explaining his football game at about 29mins for awhile and the football game.
    Please explain some truth so we will know truth per truth.

    https://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2021/01/x22report-think-football-the-super-bowl-will-look-like-a-puppy-show-no-escape-for-players-must-video-3563822.html

    We need you TV to help us poor peasants.

    • No worries Ned, I’m here to assist. All you need to do is follow these two easy steps.

      Step # 1 : Stop listening to proven disnfo peddler Zio-Dave at X22.

      Step # 2 : Refer back to Step 1.

  7. There is nothing to worry about the constitution and precedents RE the actions taken as described above because it is only a matter of a few years that the constitution will be replaced. Who cares how worn out the old carpet is when it is replaced?
    Of course it is going to be replaced. Haven’t you seen all the statues toppled over the last 3 or so years in the US? This is what happens when one side has WON.
    The only statue that was re-erected was for Albert Pike, just the founder of the KKK. Life sure is a contradiction. (Nah, just kidding, it’s not)

  13. Of double quotations and contradictions
    by Omar Raad Chowdhury

    https://countercurrents.org/2021/01/of-double-quotations-and-contradictions/

    The abject servility of the mainstream media to the US imperialist order is once again on naked display, as anti-Putin protests surge across Russia and the new Joe Biden administration seeks to capitalise on them.

    In contradistinction, headlines, comments and presentation styles of stories on anti-Putin protests and the recent pro-Trump protest in the U.S. Capitol, would yield the hypocrisy, ulterior motives and the imperialist interests the mainstream media (MSM) embodies and upholds; all the while flying high banners of democratic principles and objectivity. Mendacity, cloaked under subtlety and blended with grains of truth, is paraded across paragraphs and audio-visuals to mislead general readership and bolster public support for war-campaigns……………….”

    • Warning Signs from Biden’s First Week in Office The “progressive” candidate praised as a “woke bloke” seems to be carrying on where all his authoritarian Imperialist predecessors left off
      Kit Knightly

      Cabinet Appointments

      Biden’s cabinet is praised as the “most diverse” in history, but will hiring a few non-white people really change the decades-old policies of US Imperialism? It certainly doesn’t look like it.

      His pick for Under Secretary of State is Victoria Nuland, a neocon warmonger and one of the masterminds of the Maidan coup in Ukraine in 2014. She is married to Robert Kagan, another neocon warmonger, co-founder of the Project for a New American Century and senior fellow at the Brookings Institute and one of the masterminds behind the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

      The incoming Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, is also an inveterate US Imperialist, arguing for every US military intervention since the 1990s, and criticised Trump’s decision to withdraw from Syria.

      Biden’s pick for Defence Secretary is the first African-American ever appointed to this role, but former General Lloyd Austin is hardly going be some kind of “progressive” voice int his cabinet. He’s a career soldier who retired from the military in 2016 to join the board of Raytheon Technologies, an arms manufacturer and military contractor.

      As “diverse” as this cabinet may be in skin colour or gender…there is most certainly no “diversity” of opinion or policy. There are very few new faces and no new thoughts.

      So, it looks like we can expect more of the same in terms of foreign policy. A fact that’s already been displayed in…

      https://off-guardian.org/2021/01/27/6-warning-signs-from-bidens-first-week-in-office/

      • A Family Business of Perpetual War

        Victoria Nuland and Robert Kagan have a great mom-and-pop business going. From the State Department, she generates wars and from op-ed pages he demands Congress buy more weapons. There’s a pay-off, too, as grateful military contractors kick in money to think tanks where other Kagans work, writes Robert Parry………….

        https://consortiumnews.com/2015/03/20/a-family-business-of-perpetual-war/

        Donald Kagan

        Born into a Jewish family from Kuršnai, Lithuania, Kagan grew up in the Brownsville section of Brooklyn, New York, where his family emigrated when he was two years old, shortly after the death of his father. He graduated from Brooklyn College in 1954, received an MA from Brown University in 1955 and a PhD from the Ohio State University in 1958.[

        Kagan lives in New Haven, Connecticut. He is married to Myrna Kagan, a teacher and historian in her own right, and the author of “Vision in the Sky: New Haven’s Early Years, 1638-1784.” He is the father of Robert Kagan and Frederick Kagan, both well-known writers. Robert Kagan’s wife is Victoria Nuland, the State Department spokesperson from 2011 to 2013 and the current Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs. Frederick Kagan’s wife is Kimberly Kagan, a well-known military historian and founder and president of the Institute for the Study of War.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Kagan

        http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/04/14/the-nuland-kagan-plan-to-kill-the-minsk-2-peace-agreement/?utm_source=21stCenturyWire.com

      • Let’s get Brother Nathanael’s take on Victoria Nuland : :

        http://brothernathanaelchannel.com/watch_video.php?v=1101

        Nathanael refers to her by her original family name (Nudelman).

        She was the daughter of Dr Sherwin B. Nuland (also not his real name – he was born Shepsel Ber Nudelman).

        Fair dinkum, these people that change their names.
        Almost as bad as some here on Gumshoe that go from one alias to another, as recommended by their controllers.

        I wouldn’t be surprised if our resident troll was a Shepsel himself, or perhaps a Schmoolik ?

        • It’s no secret my email went bad twice and also I’m not a stupid cartoon superhero like you, you raving dickhead, accusing me of words I never heard of and delighting in baseless smear and defamation, you are a sickening creature, now you’re liable to start saying I kill babies and old grannies and the usual hysterical stuff like that, F you, you pervert, you’re the troll.

  14. Words: Washington Times. Jan 28 2021 says:

    “With President Biden in control, ICE has moved to police its agents’ words, telling them the terms “alien” and “illegal alien” may no longer be used in any documents.

    Instead, agents have been ordered to use “undocumented” — as in “undocumented noncitizen” or “undocumented individual.”

    “Migrant” and “refugee” are still allowed, as is “seasonal worker” and “detainee.” But agents were told not to refer to those who sneak illegal immigrants into the country as “alien smuggling.” The new approved term is “human smuggling.”

    • Here’s some more of Biden’s word salad – “the new orders recognize the “intersectionality” of climate with the coronavirus pandemic, the economy and “racial equity.” – apparently this is known as ‘climate justice’. – Hell, I thought it was an indication of the confused thoughts of someone that was insane.

  15. Heads-up on the next plandemic. Covid-19 is scheduled to end in March 2025, however the Cabal has a new plandemic scheduled to begin in 2025 called ‘Spars’.

    https://humansarefree.com/2020/12/spars-pandemic-2025-2028-simulation-2017-coronavirus-plandemic-covid-19.html

    I note that the document talks about a fractured society of small groups. That description is consistent with the Deagle report of a smaller population by 2025. – Looks like the Cabal has this de-population agenda all mapped out for years.

    • I put that up a week or two ago and everyone was so busy posting as usual nobody noticed.
      However it points to lockdowns continuing forever if the stupid sheeple go along with it being extended every so often, which is clearly the strategy for manipulating the extremely stupid sheeple which make up approx 2/3 majority. So what do these extremely stupid sheeple want from their pathetic, unthinking existences? What they want is “law and order”, but even symbols will do. Symbols of comfort and reassurance that today and tomorrow will be another relatively stress-free day, because their only strategy for dealing with unfamiliar situations is to huddle and shiver. To them the symbol of the policeman and the “benign” Dicktator speaking calmly are more potent than any rational reality. They never stop to think the Dicktator may have a controller, or may have sold out entirely. Their brains come from channel 9 (CBS?) and their instincts come from the safety industry (division of DuPont).
      Nice, kind, innocent sheeple, you can herd them around, fleece them, and send them to the abattoir, all they will do is anxiously bleat. Baah, baah, we don’t like Donald Trump, he says use HCQ, he’s crazy.

      • re: small isolated groups, reminds me of various populations such as the “prussians” who I heard were genocided because they were “too troublesome”, you know that little piece of land south of Lithuania, now called Kaliningrad and packed with missiles apparently. Armenians got a similar treatment, Christians surrounded by Muslims. Aborigines here got it too. It’s obviously good enough for everyone.

        • w3, I didn’t catch it when you first posted it, but it is a highly significant document out of Johns Hopkins. Apparently they have even put together the ‘vaccine’ to be used in the later plandemic.

          The document referred to “isolated and highly fragmented communities” which seems to suggest those small communities away from the big cities that may have missed the first big cull. Gotta round up all those ‘preppers’ that went bush. I hope I’m still around by then, I got a present for them when they arrive.

          “the extremely stupid sheeple which make up approx 2/3 majority” – I put that majority a bit higher. In the States there has been a constant 80% of the population that goes around masked. That 80% figure corresponds to the ratio in the Pareto principle, it appears the Pareto principle also applies for the ‘plandemic sheeple’.

          • By the time some sheeple find out about it as a “mad conspiracy theory” they will have switched the dates and tweaked the name and the stupid sheeple will be fooled yet again.

  16. Cellebrite: Israel’s Good Cyber Cop is Big Tech’s Backdoor to Breaching Your Privacy

    Israeli digital forensics company Cellebrite has been quietly providing law enforcement agencies with the tools to retrieve data from any device for years, but they want you to know they’re on the right side of the law.

    by Raul Diego

    ………..The cat, as they say, is out of the bag thanks to researchers at Johns Hopkins University, who decided to test the mobile security systems of two of the biggest mobile device makers, Apple and Google. Their findings reveal that the layers of security protecting our data are only skin deep and that much of the encryption structures built into these devices remain unused. “I’ve come out of the project thinking almost nothing is protected,” Matthew Green, the professor who oversaw the study told Wired…………..

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/cellebrite-spyware-israel-privacy/274854/

  17. When you have no money, your preoccupation is getting some money, and increasing your wealth until you reach some comfort zone point.
    When you attain some degree of wealth a preoccupation becomes, how do you hang on to this money.
    When you have trillions, this preoccupation must be overarching. You become paranoid, of usurpers !!! You wish to associate only with your own ilk, and separate yourself from the rapacious rabble who given the chance would descend on your fortunes like locusts. The locusts therefore must be tamed &/or eliminated. All technology is turned toward this end. An obsession with data mining and surveillance while nothing more than lip service is done about problems such as unemployment, pollution, overpriced education and inadequate health services etc etc etc. As a simple example, cameras are everywhere which could be used to automate traffic lights and switch them according to however many cars were queued up in the different lanes. But there is no thought to the convenience of the citizens, instead, it is all about surveillance.
    Normally I wouldn’t make such a sweeping statement but now, watching Melbourne, the rot seems to come fairly and squarely from the ALP.
    In Western Australia there will be an election in a few weeks and the ALP there is anticipated to win a thumping majority, when that happens, it will be interesting to see if the leader there becomes “controlled” as Andrews in Victoria did.

      • It’s not good enough to wait for 3 years and then learn that Andrews is inhabiting a corner office in Chase Manhattan tower. He needs to be held accountable now.

    • I am Western Australian. McGowan and Cook are already treasonous “One World Government” pawns. Neither major part will get my vote. Whichever “party” gets in the program will not change. What will change is a worldwide change in a few weeks where none of these arseholes will be anywhere near a position of power. In fact the change I have mentioned will probably be with us before this mentioned election.

      • I hope it’s true, in the meantime I hear they are winding down the “fly-in-fly-out” workers and getting them all to stay up north where they still fly in to mine sites but only small planes travelling for an hour or so, this seems to have been a “reaction” to the state shutting down travel during the virus panic. I think WA was shut into about 5 or 6 pieces.
        Now we should all know Rio Tinto was Rotschilds since about 1880 and they used to be notorious for being tough on unions. So it sounds like they won’t need Perth so much next time everything gets locked down, according to the plan. They will still need heavy engineering and so forth but half of that stuff probably comes from Asia now. The super-comfortable middle-classes of Perth may find themselves surplus to requirements, and the mine-workers coming in from international places. The WA government of whichever flavour will be totally addicted to royalties and will be too scared to complain.

        • too true– I was introduced to “mr rio Tinto” by the Aurkun youth in 2004–they had quotas to meet– I was also invited to Rio Tinto building in Melbourne–awesome –but didn’t meet the grade—play the game-salute the flag–thank god

      • Mal, I recall you mentioning something was going down in early March.

        What exactly is going down either in a few weeks or early March?

        Would you care to name those that will be going down ?

        More importantly, by ‘what mechanism’ will said individuals being going down ?

        ie: will there be a military coup OR will some U.S government agency like the DoJ be prosecuting said criminals (even though the entirety of the U.S government / Military / Intel agencies are totally under the thumb of the Zio-cabal) ?

        • Mal. do not tell, someone is just fishing for the time date and place of the D Day landing. Just let him work it our for himself, he actually knows everything anyway.
          Have a listen to the report by Brent Johnson that I logged at 8.08 and 8.43 for a another tease.

          • Certainly not fishing for anything – no live fish to be caught in a lake filled with toxic contaminants.

            Quite right Ned, I do know what’s going to happen.
            Diddly squat is going to happen.

            (Be that in March, or June or anytime this year).

            Thereafter, at a time of their choosing, the Zio-cabal will transition to Kamala.

          • TV,
            Am obliged, you are so insightful, so Kamala is diddly squat(ter)!!!!
            Of what, prey tell?
            Thanks anyway, then why all the questions of Mal?

          • Ned, I quite liked the irony of the ‘D-Day landing’ metaphor you’ve employed.

            Of course if the fringe lunatics that comprise the ‘armed-militia’ faction of the Cult-of-Trump do attempt an armed insurrection (Don’t worry, they won’t – they’re too GUTLESS), but if they do, it will be no D-Day.

            It’ll be more like the Dieppe Raid of August 1942 – where that paedophile Mountbatten squandered countless (mostly Canadian) lives in a pointless amphibious landing that never looked like being successful.

            Picture this, Mountbatten’s force had over 10,000 men at their disposal, 237 ships and landing craft, almost 100 fighter aircraft (mostly Spitfire’s and P51 Mustangs).

            He was up against a second rate ‘static’ Division of 1500 Germans (the better equipped crack German troops were all on the Russian front).

            Needless to say, Mountbatten’s force was decimated.

            Only a right royal TWIT could manufacture a defeat out of that numerical and weaponry superiority.

          • Tv,
            Fascinating.
            Now how about 250 words on the charge of the light brigade.
            And tell us who really blew up Mountbatten😎🤡

          • Whoever blew up Mountbatten deserves a medal.

            Perhaps it was divine providence ?

            Meanwhile, you may have noticed Ned but I'm not a fence sitter - I make calls and, in so doing, I run the risk that down the track I'll be called out if I'm wrong.

            Others (like ‘Q’ and Nostradamus), purposely make dung drops that are so ambiguous, so cryptic that they can be interpreted in countless ways.

            That way, if something remotely similar happens, they (or the cult followers), can claim after the event that this is what they meant.

            So, if Mal is calling for something to happen and he believes his sources are reliable, why is he afraid to spell it out ?

            If it comes to fruition (as he expects it to), he can bask in the glory of having called it early – and receive my personal congratulatory message.

          • Ned, as for the Charge of the Light Brigade, I don’t very much other than it was yet another British debacle, where once again some aristocratic TWIT ordered an asinine charge that saw most of his troops cut to shreds.

            At least it was a happy ending. Any time the British get routed in a land offensive (which is almost always – so abysmal has their army been these last 300 years), is cause for jubilation.

        • good question Ned–Mountbatten – Isle of Wight – Lord Casey-east India co -1943 famine —-Royalty– Churchill- pedophile rings–Prince Charles– aagghh Ireland
          maybe ask David Icke

  18. A good person would never think about murdering another.
    So who are these people that send others to war, are complicit in the manufacture of weapons biological, conventional and nuclear that may big bang back to stardust?
    In the scheme of things, there are probably a few thousand individuals directing the final solution, although convincing seven billion people is easier said than done. We are at home isolating, virtually chatting, when we should be on the streets. How is that going to happen, when now we are encouraged to wear double masks?
    In Vienna, and elsewhere people are gathering in mass, middle of winter without masks. They see through the agenda that is leading to global genocide. May their actions spread to all cities of the world, pronto.
    Remember my grandmother telling me, that in her youth the elders referred to Austrian Hugarian rule as, “when God walked upon the earth.”
    Is that why they were crushed in WW1?

    • Austria had a good run with Venice, the Lombards and so forth, sucking in the gold, everyone in the world had a few good years with the new technologies, electricity, motor-cars, aeroplanes etc. The Great War part 1 ended the “2nd Reich” started by Bismark’s unification of Germany. The plan was to build a train line through Serbia (which used to be much bigger) to the oilfields of the middle east, to fuel all these new cars and things. However the British had already done Suez and competition was not required. This is a follow-the-money analysis and also a technology driven analysis, with all the political theatre and reinvention of history misinformation removed.

      • Crown connections, after 108 years stronger now than before.
        Interesting to note that in Britain and Serbia, the workers and peasants never had private property. On the contrary, in the states of Austro-Hungary private property was had by all citizens.

  19. Conspiracy for Total World Domination Exposed by Religious Proponents of Scheme

    Rabbi Emanuel Reichhorn’s Protocols

    The Fatal Discourse of Emanuel Reichhorn Chief Rabbi of France, a Funeral Oration over Grand Rabbi Simeon-ben-Ihuda of Bohemia [“ (In its issue of 21 October, 1920 (No. 195) La Vieille France published an extremely important Russian document in which the following passage occurs:

    “There is a striking analogy between The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion and the discourse of the Rabbi Reichhorn, pronounced in Prague in 1869 over the tomb of the Grand Rabbi Simeon-ben-Ihuda, and published by Readcliffe, who paid with his life for the divulgation. Sonol, who had taken Readcliffe to hear Reichhorn, was killed in a duel some time afterwards. The general ideas formulated by the Rabbi are found fully developed in the Protocols, (which were published about 35 years later)”……………..

    https://www.nationandstate.com/2019/09/12/conspiracy-for-total-world-domination-exposed-by-religious-proponents-of-scheme/

  22. More update from X22, this time on the central bank SYSTEM. Bit frightening for the lovers of the Central Banker’s system. (:-}

    https://x22report.com/aiovg_videos/ep-2390a-cbds-exposed-to-all-the-entire-system-is-rigged/

    Note the way the stock prices are rigged in miiliseconds ………..been doing it for years. (I was advised a decade ago on this cheating system!) So who have been the suckers? Most of you!!???

    Now for a alleged Zio-Dave? Might be an idea to eventually take some notice on what he is exposing and now who would they be Mr. Truth?

    • • Lessons From Wall Street: Notes From The Edge Of The Narrative Matrix – Caitlin Johnstone

      https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2021/01/29/lessons-from-wall-street-notes-from-the-edge-of-the-narrative-matrix/

      … and

      • According To The Father Of Propaganda An Invisible Government Controls Our Minds With A Thought Prison

      https://www.wakingtimes.com/according-father-propaganda-invisible-government-controls-minds-thought-prison/

      Just accept it Ned – they are to be congratulated …

      • I looked at both these sites, they just wallow in cliches, they even believe philanthropy exists to do good, they talk vaguely of shadowy governments, they are a smokescreen for Rockerfella Foundation and Carnegie Endowment etc. Boring sounding and very real think tanks doing the ground work of globalism. I posted here a long time ago a link to the previous month’s Rockerfella Foundation payments, these go to lefties to further the agenda, the blue-pill-red-pill wokies don’t seem to have a clue about follow-the-money except probably to reduce it to a chant. Lefty rent-a-crowd leadership is bought off with $20k or so, the budget for RF is a few million a month or whatever, peanuts. Here look for yourself
        https://www.rockefellerfoundation.org/grants/

        • Ned
          Christ did accept His arrest, torture and death. The disciple Simon Peter drew his sword and “Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it and struck the high priest’s servant, cutting off his right ear. (The servant’s name was Malchus.)”
          Christ healed him and would not allow further violence.

          Unlike the Zionists or the jews and the Vatican-Papacy with their fixed unbiblical “Dominion theology” of force, Jesus subdues His disciples and followers. Jesus commanded Peter, “Put your sword away! Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me?”

          12 Then the detachment of soldiers with its commander and the Jewish officials arrested Jesus. They bound him 13 and brought him first to Annas, who was the father-in-law of Caiaphas, the high priest that year.

          36 Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.” ( Jesus said His kingdom is not of this world then neither is ours)

          in chapter 6:14-15 Jesus fled from the crowd when he learned they wanted to make him king. And Malchus is a name meaning “king”, which is interesting.

          Believers misinterpreted the First Coming of Christ as He had to die for our sins to fulfill the Law of God. His Resurrection was a sign that the Law was fulfilled

  23. They are saying Janet Yellen and Christine Legard are squirming in fear because the money-printing game is up, we’re going to hyperinflation &/or the crack-up boom, a good reason for Mein Trumpf to keep his head down and powder dry, if he has the inside information, if his timing is good . . . . . .

    • Just to clarify, the article and commentator is as follows below a bit.
      I did not know that each night the lights go out in the capital building!!!!!! Bit more to note from the interview.
      “The military is in Charge Joe”. Brent Johnson.

    • Yes Ned, seeing as these sources of yours all have the same Zio-paymaster, it stands to reason there will be overlaps when reading from the same script.

      Ned I’m curious.

      How many consecutive times does Zio-Dave have to get it wrong before you’re convinced he may not be that reliable ?

      I mean, he’s gotten the last 300-400 consecutive calls wrong.

      Will you give up when he reached 500, or a 1000 or ….. ?

      Just wondering.

        • Not too true Ned.

          I had some card carrying Cult-of-Trump mates who were telling me Q said :
          1)Wait for Durham’s investigation and then see all the arrests
          2) Wait for Bill Barr – he’ll give those ‘globalists’ a black eye.
          (I’m still waiting for Zio-Dave to spell out WHO the ‘globalists’ are. Of course he never will – that would be biting the hand that feeds him).
          3) We’re piling on 1000’s of sealed indictments (on top of the millions they already had), and that this would teach the Zio-cabal who’s boss
          4) That JFK Jr would show up and coincident with that Trump would fire Pence and replace him and …..
          ….countless more misdirections (none of which transpired).

          Also Ned, you forget that you asked me to listen to quite a few X22 Zio-Reports in the last 6 months or so.
          As proof that I listened to them, I then went on to deconstruct the preposterous statements Zio-Dave was making (like Trump had taken control of the Fed and that Trump was letting the Fed bankrupt itself or some such).

          Anyway, my critique (and there was a SH*TLOAD of critique as Zio-Dave was smearing B.S from pillar to post), is archived here on Gumshoe.

          Needless to say, everything I said came to pass.

          And everything Zio-Dave boasted of came to nought.

          That’s pretty specific Ned.

  28. Referring above to Veg’s criticism of Nuland. Wouldn’t anyone change his name if born “Nudelman”?

    Yale medical professor Sherwin Nuland was a wonderful man with deep insight. He had been raised by a brutal father.

  29. A simple question, if there are no new ‘cases’ in Victoria, past 4 weeks, and no cases in NSW and Queensland, why do we need the jabs?

    • Most of the tele-vision world is progammed and scared into believing that getting the jab is the smart thing to do. Getting injected with a biological agent designed to make you sick is not smart, but don’t tell your rellies that, they look at you as though you are a nut case.

    • Testing Positive is meaningless and fraudulent. No we do not need the poisonous toxic and contaminated jab! This is a Hostile Business Model as well as getting rid of the elderly as medicine is just getting rid of their liabilities as well as depopulating the world. this is only one part of their sinister program of a number of agendas in operation

  30. Islamophobia meet imperialism and Modi

    Is Biden’s pick for major budget post Islamophobic?

    by Michael F. Brown

    …………….Perhaps the most troubling of Tanden’s many comments over the years came in a 2011 email to Shakir about Libya.

    “We have a giant deficit. They have a lot of oil.”

    So said Tanden about the benefits of the US looting Libya if the US is to continue “to engage in the world” while keeping social programs.

    .@neeratanden, Biden's pick to head the Budget office, has a proven track record of creative budget solutions. My favorite is when she told @fshakir that the US should steal Libya's oil: "We have a giant deficit. They have a lot of oil."
    https://t.co/d2ItRoIBnJ pic.twitter.com/xvk2p4ZNoU
    — Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) November 29, 2020

    Given tonight's news, I hope oil-rich countries around the world are increasing the security on their rigs and drilling sites: https://t.co/oN8KCtW7DU pic.twitter.com/dEc5mkEs77
    — Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) November 29, 2020

    Tanden has also been blasted for her 2014 meeting with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi. She said she was “honored” to meet him, disregarding his earlier complicity in the massacres of Muslims in Gujarat in northwest India…………

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/michael-f-brown/bidens-pick-major-budget-post-islamophobic

  31. Columbus Day? True Legacy: Cruelty and Slavery (ABSTRACT click on link for full article)
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/columbus-day-a-bad-idea_b_742708

    Once again, it’s time to celebrate Columbus Day. Yet, the stunning truth is: If Christopher Columbus were alive today, he would be put on trial for crimes against humanity. Columbus’ reign of terror, as documented by noted historians, was so bloody, his legacy so unspeakably cruel, that Columbus makes a modern villain like Saddam Hussein look like a pale codfish.

    Question: Why do we honor a man who, if he were alive today, would almost certainly be sitting on Death Row awaiting execution?

    If you’d like to know the true story about Christopher Columbus, please read on. But I warn you, it’s not for the faint of heart.

    Columbus Day, as we know it in the United States, was invented by the Knights of Columbus, a Catholic fraternal service organization. Back in the 1930s, they were looking for a Catholic hero as a role-model their kids could look up to. In 1934, as a result of lobbying by the Knights of Columbus, Congress and President Franklin Roosevelt signed Columbus Day into law as a federal holiday to honor this courageous explorer. Or so we thought.

    Shockingly, Columbus supervised the selling of native girls into sexual slavery. Young girls of the ages 9 to 10 were the most desired by his men. In 1500, Columbus casually wrote about it in his log. He said: “A hundred castellanoes are as easily obtained for a woman as for a farm, and it is very general and there are plenty of dealers who go about looking for girls; those from nine to ten are now in demand.”

    He forced these peaceful natives work in his gold mines until they died of exhaustion. If an “Indian” worker did not deliver his full quota of gold dust by Columbus’ deadline, soldiers would cut off the man’s hands and tie them around his neck to send a message. Slavery was so intolerable for these sweet, gentle island people that at one point, 100 of them committed mass suicide. Catholic law forbade the enslavement of Christians, but Columbus solved this problem. He simply refused to baptize the native people of Hispaniola.

      • Hilarious! CC I would definitely change my name no matter what! Lol
        aka Cristobal Colon aka Juan Colon? – Why wouldn’t/b< you change your name?

    • “The story of the slaves in America begins with Christopher Columbus. His voyage to America was not financed by Queen Isabella, but by Luis de Santangelo, who advanced the sum of 17,000 ducats (about 5,000 pounds today equal to 50,000 pounds) to finance the voyage, which began on August 3, 1492.

      Columbus was accompanied by five ‘maranos’ (Jews who had foresworn their religion and supposedly became Catholics), Luis de Torres, interpreter, Marco, the surgeon, Bemal, the physician, Alonzo de la Calle and Gabriel Sanchez.”

      Listen/read on …

      “Who Brought the Slaves to America – Walter White Jr”

      https://www.bitchute.com/video/4Q7VXwwvErAi/

      The booklet

      https://archive.org/details/WhoBroughtTheSlavesToAmerica_663

      • Amarka – Amerika

        Jer.51:7 “Babylon was a golden cup in the hand of God, making all the Earth drunk. The nations have drunk of her fermented wine therefore the nations are insane”.

        All of the different pagan gods are just different manifestations of Nimrod and his wife ( The Two Babylons- Hislop )

        From “Am,” “mother,” and “arka,” “earth,” you get “Amarka,” “The Mother of the Earth.”, alias Rhea, Cybele etc, The Mother of Gods and Men, alias the Roman Catholic Mary [the first Jesuits were Jews], the “queen of heaven” [Jeremiah 44:17,18,19,25], and most surely these manifestations which all represent Nimrods wife are represented by the “Statue of Liberty” in New York harbour. [ see note 1, p.77. The Goddess Mother of Habitation” – “The Two Babylons” by Alexander Hislop.]

        and from the same book page 158 — The Golden Cup —- Revelation 17:4

        “……….Thus then the cup bearing goddess was at once Venus, the goddess of licentiousness, and Nemesis, the stern and unmerciful one to all who rebelled against her authority.

        How remarkable a woman, whom John saw [Rev.] described in one aspect as the “Mother of harlots” and in another as “Drunken with the blood of the saints!”

        • #4. The Statue of Liberty Torch:
          This item was originally designed to be a golden cup filled with the wine of freedom. This golden cup remained in the planning and was actually made. However, before completion and shipping of the entire statue, the New York Port authorities asked if there could be some sort of modification to allow for an eternal flame or light to be designed into the statue so that ships could use her as a night time navigational aid. Bartholdi consented to make modifications to the basic cup design to allow for a natural gas flame to be utilized.

          The torch we see today is actually the same type of cup design used in ancient times for drinking wine. It featured a handle for the cup at the bottom and the handle looked much like a stick. The golden aspect itself was altered again to conform to the needs of the natural gas flame. The actual, original golden cup was later sold by the project to the Czar of Russia, Czar Nicholas. In 1917 during the Russian ………………….

          http://transmissionsmedia.com/the-statue-of-liberty-and-statue-of-freedom-american-babylonianism/

  34. Trump Campaign Pollster: Effort to Cancel Trump Is ‘Backfiring’ (ABSTRACT click on link for full article)
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-campaign-pollster-effort-to-cancel-trump-is-backfiring_3677174.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-01-29-3

    The effort to convict Trump in an impeachment trial suffered a grave setback after 45 Republican senators voted against holding the trial, meaning that it’s unlikely there will be enough votes to convict the former president. Convicting a president requires at least 67 votes, meaning 17 Republicans would have to join Democrats.

    A number of Republican senators said it’s unconstitutional and pointless to convict a former president.

    One of the House Republican leaders, Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), the daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney, was among the 10 GOP Congress members to join the Democrats. Despite her leadership role and name-recognition, Cheney is sure to face a tough primary battle—coming after Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) publicly admonished her at a rally in Wyoming this week.

    • At 11:00 he talks about the fake Crusades, and in particular the Fourth Crusade debacle and the plot of the Venetians to loot Byzantium.

      As evidence, one only has to look and admire the Quadriga, now in the Museum of St Mark’s Basilica, Venice, following the sacking of Constantinople, thanks largely to Doge Enrico Dandolo.

      I just picked any image at random to illustrate …

      https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Venezia_Basilica_di_San_Marco_Innen_Quadriga_2.jpg

      • “The priests of Nimrod the founder of Babylon wore black robes.”

        The Chemarims or Khamarim are the black -robed priests of Baal , who were appointed by the kings of Judah to conduct worship In high places . Chemarims ” Idolatrous Priest ” , comes from The root word Kamar meaning ” to be black ” , which explains the ” idolatrous priest ” wore black garments ( Zephaniah 1 ; 4 ) , which the judges, priests, rabbis and Cohen’s wear today ..

        Judah – [Shemite] married a Canaanite [Hamite]

        Judah married and had sons to the daughter of foreign gods——a Canaanite woman. Malachi, chapter 3 & 2:11., Genesis 38:1-10

        Canaan: a son of Ham, [Genesis 10:6]., Cursed by Noah, [Genesis 9:20-26]., Idolatrous, [Deut. 29:17] ., Defiled, [Lev. 18:24-27]

        “Canaanite”, Strongs Hebrew Concordance 3669, a merchant, a trafficker.

        “In the days of John Hyrcanus… the [non-Israelite] Edomites became a section of the Jewish people.” Article entitled “EDOM,” Encyclopaedia Judaica Vol. 6, p. 378 (1971)

      • Mustafa. The name is an epithet of Muhammad that means, The Chosen One. It is a very common male given name throughout the Muslim world. This name is mostly used in Turkey after Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, founder of the Republic of Turkey.
        .
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa
        .
        A Jew, Mustapha-Kemal, Dictator of Turkey, cast out the Oecumenical Patriarch from Constantinople, where the Patriarchs of the Eastern Catholic Church have lived for a thousand years.
        .
        http://www.resist.com/SecretGovernment-Spiridovich.pdf
        .

    • Personality –

      From 14th Century Latin personalis = “The quality or fact of being a PERSON”. Itself a combination of persona=PERSON and alius = “other, another, someone/something else”. Source Text:
      Definition:
      At the beginning of the 19th Century, a new definition was added to reflect the real-world fact of unique differences between individuals, namely “A set of qualities that makes a PERSON distinct from another”. The use of the word “personality” in the creation of the fictional and extremely dangerous “science” of psychology is attested from the early 20th Century meaning “assumed role or manner of PERSONAL behaviour”.

    • As much as I really do enjoy Robert Sepehr, he mixes so many facts with nonsense narratives as demonstrated here:

      Is there a Galactic Federation?

      (I note Sasha Stone and David Icke were talking [obliquely] about the Galactic Federation also.)

      • Russian roulette is one round in a six chambered wheel. This freaking Covid shot is six in six. – But hey! there are still dumb-asses out there that will take those odds, not only willingly, but will try to cut the line to get ahead of others. I encourage their success.

        • Yes I agree with that Terry. The odds are well and truly against the population that of their own stupid free will to go and get that poison needle. Such deranged and demented thinking

      • Terry, referencing your comment below, leading up to January 1980, the Hunt brothers of Texas bought up three-quarters of the world’s silver supply.

        Maybe that played some [small] contribution to the near ten fold increase in silver prices in the late 70’s ?

        I recall that Warren Buffett, known for making the odd profitable investment or two, bought 130 million oz of silver in the late 90’s :

        https://www.cmi-gold-silver.com/monetarydigests/warren-buffett-buys-silver/

        Then again, what would they know ?

        Ol’ Dave says shiny metals are only for monetary dunces.

        Fair enough. I’m with Dave on this issue – he knows his stuff.

      • No, but math still does. Say a person had 1,000 ozs of physical silver. Hypothetically, if silver went to US$500 an oz and the present exchange rate applied (1.30 A$ to 1 US$) – that would be a pile of dust covered bricks worth A$650,000.

        Not bad for a A$ investment of $5,000 20 odd years ago.

        • JPMorgan (Jamie Dimon) was shorting silver to a huge extent so they had no way to cover their shorts and they were being regularly outed by commentators so they in the end had to buy a whole pile of real silver to stop the outing and prevent a possible slap on the wrist from the regulator. More recently about 6 months ago JPMorgan had to pay about $1b in fines for rigging precious metals markets (mainly gold this time I think) but I hear they covered their losses by … flogging more paper gold.
          Full disclosure: I have an Indian rupee (1905) worth probably $10 or $20

          Bill Gates is buying land but unlike you and me I think he is actually buying it not repurchasing it from the bank who bought it on our behalf.
          Suburban dwellers, ever thought of a roof garden, hydroponics, water tank, solar everything, etc.

          • Money –
            Originally from pre 3rd Century CE Latin monera meaning “a warning, a reminder” also applied to the geese of the temple to Juno (another name for Cybele-Queen of Heaven) and to the goddess Juno herself. Some of the most valuable minted coins in Rome were in honor to Juno Moneta–who warned and “saved Rome from a Carthaginian attack”. In the 19th Century, the original meaning of money being based on “precious metals” was depreciated with the meaning “A currency (including paper) maintained by a STATE which can guarantee its value”.

            Also Money/mon-eye – Horus

          • ‘Money’ is nice, you can do a lot of things with it, but I prefer ‘security’. Actually, in real life, there is no such thing as security, however, you can do a few things to help ensure some security. I’ve been hungry a few times in my life, didn’t like it much. I like being on a property that can feed me.

            I’ve also been in a few bad situations, a firearm by my side gave me the authority to say ‘fuck off’. A wad of cash in the bank doesn’t have that authority.

    • Funny that you galahs value your stash of shiny metals in dollars.

      It means nothing at all unless someone is willing to give you dollars for your blocks of tinsel.

      The usurers have routed the tinsel “market” before; tell me how any why they can’t/won’t do it again.

      • Now Dave, let’s do some investigative work.

        Who is capable of issuing dollars, Euros, pounds , yen etc ?

        Oh, why it’s the central banks of the world.

        Now, here’s the pertinent question :

        Will said central banks take my gold in exchange for their digitally created fiat money ?

        Answer : Every eff’n time dear Dave.
        There has not been an exception in all of human history.

        More importantly, there is NO OTHER ITEM ON PLANET EARTH that the central banks would prefer to trade their fiat money for than gold – it’s blue sky to second place.

        You can take that to the bank.

        • No, Tele Vision, the banking fraudsters have been working for many years to convince the likes of you that the only alternative to their debt money is “precious” metals that they have, and do, manipulate to divest whole economies of their real wealth. The whole banking/usury scam began and flourished for some thousands of years when money was almost only coin.

          Even when money was coin the coin was created in the King’s Mint and only became “legal tender” when it was stamped and issued by the Kings authority. Otherwise the metal was only an item of barter like cows or goats or anything else that people swapped among themselves.

          Money, regardless of its token is just a man made convenience to simplify trade. The problem is not money or what its token is or where it comes from, but usury. Even when money is exclusively coin there is still the problem of usury. When a money changer or lender can “lend” a coin and demand two back, if his “industry” becomes popular one doesn’t have to be too clever to see that he’ll eventually have all the coins in the economy and even hold a “claim” to coinage that doesn’t even exist.

          Every government, whatever its structure, has the right and civic duty to issue the exchange medium to facilitate the activity of the economy. A handshake with a promise is an effective kind of money but it’s not readily transferable or storable.

          The bankers and their dupes have long been busy promoting an entirely emotional aversion to “printing money” to create the illusion that government issued currency is “fiscal irresponsibility” with dire consequences whereas their monopoly of issuing currency as debt is “prudent management”.

          There’s much more to be said about money and economy and rorts and frauds but it’ll get too long for a comment and you probably wouldn’t read it anyway.

          Anyhow, if anyone at all is interested in money systems there are plenty of fairly simple explanations on this site;
          https://www.michaeljournal.org/

          • Dave, you have it arse backwards.

            The banking fraudsters have been working for years to convince the likes of YOU to trust in fiat currency – and in your case it’s worked a treat.

            Gold and silver as monetary metals have PRECEDED the Usury Cartel of Zionist Banksters by 5000 years !!

            Ron Paul (and the pure Libertarianism he advocates), understands the role of gold in the monetary system..

            Here is a brief clip (1 min) of Dr Paul sparring with a minion of the Usury cabal of bankers (then Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke) :

            As usual, Bernanke is on script (like the ENTIRETY of the Zio-owned MSM) in smearing the role of gold in saying things like ‘gold is a barbarous relic’ or an anachronism or some such.

            Looks like you’ve swallowed the Zio-dictated script hook, line and sinker.

            At the end of the day Dave, I’m not here to change you.

            You’ve got your opinion (not based on real world outcomes) and you’re going to go down with the ship because you’re such a stubborn bastard and either refuse or are unable to cleanse yourself of your Keynesian indoctrination.

            The vindication of which of us is right will be the final trajectory of the monetary metals gold and silver (and to a lesser extent all other commodities in general. eg: oil, copper etc).

            Terry Shulze and I know, with absolute certainty, that they will go ‘to the moon’.
            We can’t say for certain as to the timing (Zio-controlled central banks are doing their damnedest to manipulate the prices of gold and silver since the corollary of that is support for the U.S dollar and the fiat system).

            But they will surely fail – and that will be the ultimate proof that your thesis is full of holes my friend.

          • BTW Dave, I looked at your ‘michaeljournal.org’ link and can see why you claim it has simple explanations.

            That because it’s written by a simpleton for other simpletons.

            I don’t know who this ‘michael’ bloke and he may well be a Phd economist.
            In the end it counts for nought if he’s a Keynesian Klown or just paid by the cabal to disseminate nonsense.

            The Zio-cabal have a LOT at stake in perpetuating the myth that fiat currency (like the Covid vaccination) is good for you.

            (By a lot I mean SCORES OF TRILLIONS over the coming decades).

            And to keep perpetuating said myth the Zio-cabal have recruited conscience-free economists like Nobel Laureate Paul Krugman to smear gold some more.

            It’s that critical to supporting the bogus fiat system that the cabal will trot out these ‘experts’ to convince the masses that the ‘science’ says gold is bad for you.

            And, people like yourself dear Dave will lap it up uncritically.

            I suggest you scrap your ‘Michael-the-Simpleton’ journal and listen to REAL EXPERTS.
            There are few better than Peter Schiff (you’ll learn more from him in half an hour than you’ve absorbed so far this century) :

          • You funny ole fella! I cut my “what’s money” teeth opposing the Keynesian grand corporate/banking fantasies. I gradated to the horrors of the Rothbard/Mises update of the “Austrian School” of “economics”.

            All of the above are mere apologetics for usury on a grand scale. I can only guess that you are trying to justify your preferred brand of usury in “share portfolios” or some such.

    • Guns, Gold and Ammo – that’s pretty much is all you’ll need on your shopping list to keep the Usury cabal of bankers at bay.

      Oh, I forgot.

      Dave says some beans will also do the trick.

      • I kinda guessed, Mr gilded TV, that you would consider yourself much too clever to accept a simple explanation of the fraud and errors of the money trick… being so comfortable with your guns, gold and ammo.

        Anyhow, I’m still trying to disturb your complacency in thinking that your g. g. & a. is some magic that will save you while the whole World dissolves in chaos. We might note that the rest of humanity could very likely go on without you but I very much doubt that you could go on without the rest of humanity no matter if you had all the g. g. & a. in the whole World. In a peculiar kind of way we’re all in this together with a fairly common enemy; debt slavery as a result of moral and intellectual degeneration.

        So, if your grandiose opinions require a much more intricate and long winded explanation of the money trick and the necessary solutions go here and knock yourself out:
        Ardron, MPE.
        https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzbg6UgM5_roi8S0B9lnERQ

        I am also becoming increasingly suspicious that there are a couple of contributors to this site who’s purpose is to try and distract attention from the elephant in our room that we can potentially do something about by making a fuss about elephants in some other room; the USA, Israel etc. Don’t get pissed off about our financial/political system just get some gold etc.

        Here’s something I never expected to see; ole Wayne going berko (not uncommon) but coupled with Br Alexis Bugnolo (yair, I know who he is from way back) with some practical admonitions on liabilitymate:
        Liability mate
        https://www.bitchute.com/video/dFTvAnzRh0Mv/

        Laydis an’ Genamen! I hope there is a quiet, and pervasive, resistance brewing that will bugga right up the whole secretocracy and their abject lackeys.

        • The ‘gold, guns and ammo’ quip was a response in jest to Terry’s comment on the same day.

          (That said, it’s not to be dismissed).

          As for the ‘frauds and errors of the money trick’, I’ve pretty much explained all the money tricks and how to safeguard yourself in the coming inflationary depression in my numerous comments.
          Have you been paying attention Dave ?

          You said yourself that you’ve read all that there is to know about the Austrian School of economics and Mises/Rothbard (although I have no eff’n idea how the word ‘horrors’ inserted itself into the same sentence – obviously a typo).

          After all, if you know of the writings of Mises and Rothbard, you’ll know their thesis and prescriptions to cure the world’s economic ills are without peer, and have consistently predicted economic crashes brought on by reckless monetary policies.
          (No other economic school of thought comes within a bulls roar of the Austrian School).

          Surely Dave, you could reference Mises and Rothbard yourself and answer any questions relating to any and all ‘money tricks’.

          Failing that, please specify which ‘money trick’ you refer to and I’ll be glad to help.

          BTW, I totally agree with you Dave, that we should stay firmly focused on the ONLY elephant in the room (ie: the Anglo-Zionist empire), and watch out for those peddling fiction about ‘alternative power brokers’.

          Even a half-wit could determine easily enough that these ‘alternative power brokers’ (ie: ALL of them in aggregate), don’t amount to a hill of beans.

          They’re just used as a diversionary tactic by agents of the Zio-cabal (and quite a few useful idiots).

          It’s a good thing Dave that you’re not one of these clowns who’s propagating the nonsense that there is ANY rival to the Zio-cabal that has even the smallest fraction of financial wherewithal to compete in opposition to them.

  39. Whatever he was he was a horrible individual an acting on the part of the evil Roman Catholic military-political organisation. More fraud more lies more deception

      • Canon 6060 (link)
        As followers of the Talmud knowingly or unknowingly worship Seytan (Satan) as the Father of Darkness, those who worship using the Talmud are by definition in complete dishonor with Divine Law, Natural Law and the Divine Creator and deliberately prone by design to “extreme mental illness”.

        Canon 6061 (link)
        In the 16th Century, the Venetian-Magyar decided to undertaken a plan to reunite all Samaritan (Khazar) diaspora under their control through the Jesuits in the design of the Jerusalem Talmud and the introduction of the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) as a translation of the unholy Septuaginta into Hebrew. However, the plan did not fully succeed.

        Canon 6062 (link)
        In the 17th Century, the Venetian – Magyar decided to create a new cult through Ottoman influence known as the Sabbateans, also known as the AshkeNazi by completely re-writing and corrupting the original Babylonian Talmud into the most disgusting, unrecognizable, perverse, spiritually dishonorable work in history in order to create a cult of extreme sociopathic illness. The plan worked and the AshkeNazi version of the Babylonian Talmud now dominates the “Jewish faith” with obscene and fraudulent references such as:

        One-Heaven Canons – Canonum De Ius Rex – Canons of Sovereign Law – Article 87 – Talmud.mht

        No longer available

        • “deliberately prone by design to “extreme mental illness”. – I see it all the time now, people that decide to believe in lies. For what ever reason, they refuse to believe the truthful facts that exist right in front of them, they are the damned, the zombies that walk among us.

    • You blokes are a laugh a minute. If anyone listened to you there’d be only two constants in the whole Universe: The “value” of gold and the proclamations of “Evangelical preachers”.

  40. Just observing –

    Jubbergate – a road in OLD South Wales beside which a synagogue stood.

    Jubilant, Jubillee, Judaic, judas, Judge, Judicable, judicial, juridical, Jurisconsult, Jurisdiction, juriprudence, Jurist, Juror, Jury, Jussive, Just, Justify

    See “Jews, Jurats And The Jury Wall: A Name In Context – Oliver D. Harris

    “Wales Jewish communities and congregations”

    “Jabberwocky” Lewis Carroll …. “Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun the fruminous Bandersnatch!”

    https://www.academia.edu/218466/Jews_jurats_and_the_Jewry_Wall_a_name_in_context

  41. If we were all supposed to be perfect, then just going to McDonalds for a mega-burger would send us straight to hell I should think. I would be in hell already because I still have $300k to pay back to the bank. Maybe I am in hell and don’t know it.

    • I’ve long thought that if there is a place of torment (hell) then we are already here.

      Hell is an old English word that has been mistranslated.

      We should understand “hell” to be only what it was defined as and used as in Old English – “to cover or conceal” as in helling or thatching a roof.

      Heaven ( heofon )

      Etymology

      From Proto-Germanic *himinaz (“cloud cover, sky”), probably from Proto-Germanic *hibin-, a dissimilation of *himin ,from Proto-Indo-European *kemen-, *?emen- (“sky, cloud”). Cognate with Old Saxon hevan, heban (“heaven”), Old Norse hifinn, himinn (“sky”), Gothic (himins, “heaven”).

      Noun – heofon m, the sky, heaven

      https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/heofon

  42. I’ve seen and heard much of what that Justinian Deception bod (I forget his name) has had to say long ago.

    As I’ve said before, the Protestant Bible is an edited version of Scripture notes. The Vulgate is the only Apostolically approved version. Some translations into other languages have a tacit approval but the KJV is not one of them.

    That the “Crown” of the City of London has adopted the “Justinian deception” as a means to appropriate everyone and everything to itself does not mean that their one time mortal enemy (the Catholic Church) is complicit. It is, however, quite in character for the SoS to impute, or project, its intentions and methods onto the enemy.

    One thing the enemies of Christianity will not do is to check the facts. Everything is subject to the assumed ideology… in this case that Apostolic Christianity is the “Whore of Babylon”. Well known whores like usurers and their apologists in secret societies are, of course, exempt from suspicion because they are slyly opposed to the kind of Christianity that is the Catholic Church.

  43. You are once again way of track oldavid. You never learn or want to learn what should should be learning….I have put it up before but I know you haven’t read it as you would not be saying what you are saying…In other words you are talking absolute rot. It’s rubbish. You do not seem to be able to discern the truth from error or false doctrine.

    Bible Versions, Does It Really Matter Which?
    https://amazingdiscoveries.org/Spring-2009-BIble-Versions-Veith

    Clashing Canons: Catholic and Protestant Scriptures
    https://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_Bible_Canon_Apocrypha
    Many Catholic doctrines are supported by the writings of the Gnostics and by the Apocrypha. The Apocrypha is a collection of books that are included in Catholic Bibles but excluded from Protestant Bibles.
    CC Moyan Brenn on Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/aigle_dore/6365101775/in/photolist-aGsP14-aGsPSg-a4VWED
    The Apocrypha is based on mysticism and supposedly contains secret doctrines. At the Catholic Council of Trent, this was decreed:

    Whoever shall not receive as sacred and canonical all these books and every part of them, as they are commonly read in the Catholic Church, and are contained in the old Vulgate Latin edition, or shall knowingly and deliberately despise the aforesaid traditions, let him be accursed.i
    The Apocryphal books were not considered part of Scripture by the Bible compilers, because they clearly contradict Biblical truths, as can be seen in the following examples:

    Errors in the Vulgate

    The Bible translations that lean heavily on Catholic documents are highly problematic in some of their renditions. Some examples from the Vulgate Bible and translations based on the Vulgate pave the way for relic worship and question the level of God’s inspiration.

    2 Timothy 3:16 KJV says, “All Scripture is given by inspiration of God.”
    The Douay Version says, “All Scripture inspired of God is profitable.”

    Hebrews 11:21 KJV says, “Jacob worshipped leaning upon the top of his staff.”
    The Vulgate says, “Jacob adored the top of his rod.”

    Revelation 22:14 KJV says, “Blessed are they that do his commandments.”
    The Codex Vaticanus says, “Blessed are they that wash their robes.”

    Battle of the Bibles
    http://pdf.amazingdiscoveries.org/Study_Guides/TO/TO213-Battle_of_the_Bibles.pdf

    Roman Catholicism
    Roman CatholicismGeorge BurnsideCAN A MINISTER OF GOD FORGIVE SINS?
    http://pdf.amazingdiscoveries.org/eBooks/ROMAN_CATHOLICISM.pdf

  44. Orrite! so now we have it official! Arlyn and his Wuli are the sole arbiters of what Christianity is. All previous opinions are hereby decreed anathema!

    • Even though I disagree with points on both sides of this argument I have to agree with your latest point, oldavid. Though I am not Arlyns Wuli – whatever that is.

      James 5:7-11 Be Patient and Persevering. 7 Therefore be patient, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and latter rain. 8 You also be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord [] is at hand.. 9 Do not [] grumble against one another …

    • Oldavid
      You are deliberately misinterpreting and misconstruing what you are reading. It is what the historical and evidence is saying…it is not my opinion but you always get them both confused You are unable to discern the difference of truth from error or false doctrine as you are blinded by a very dogmatic false ideology of paganism and changing the words, adding words and taking away words out of the Bible.

      Revelation 22:18-19
      King James Version
      18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

      19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

      Changing the Word Total Onslaught

      What’s the Difference Between Bible Versions?
      The Battle Over Christ’s Divinity | Changing the Word

      A Mouth to Utter Proud Words (ABSTRACT click on link for full article)
      https://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_beasts_words_blasphemy
      The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for forty-two months. He opened his mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven (Revelation 13:5-6).

      These verses show us that the beast will be blasphemous. Rome has always been an ecclesiastical and secular power, combining church and state. When she wielded power during the Middle Ages, she claimed this:

      The Church may by Divine Right confiscate the property of heretics, imprison their persons, and condemn them to the flames.
      In one of his encyclicals, Pope John Paul asked for secular legislation to support the religious observance of Sunday:

      When, through the centuries, she has made laws concerning Sunday rest, (109) the Church has had in mind above all the work of servants and workers…In this matter, my predecessor Pope Leo XIII in his encyclical Rerum Novarum spoke of Sunday rest as a worker’s right which the State must guarantee…Therefore, also in the particular circumstances of our own time, Christians will naturally strive to ensure that civil legislation respects their duty to keep Sunday holy.i

      In a further apostolic letter, the Pope used the term “heretic” for the first time since the healing of the wound, and warned disobedient members of the flock that they will be punished if they do not accept papal authority in matters of doctrine:

      Whoever denies a truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or who calls into doubt, or who totally repudiates the Christian faith, and does not retract after having been legitimately warned, is to be punished as a heretic or an apostate with a major excommunication; a cleric moreover can be punished with other penalties, not excluding deposition.ii

      It is interesting that while the Roman Catholic Church considers all other churches heretics and disobedient daughters that must accept papal authority in matters of doctrine, the Catholic Church is also seeking unity with other denominations through the setting aside of differences. But under Catholic thought, the only differences to set aside are those of other denominations, for all must concede to papal authority. This can be seen in the efforts of the Anglican Church to reunite with the Papacy on common ground, only to finally admit that there was no unity with the Papacy on any other terms but its own.

  45. Y’ berk! Didn’t you notice that almost all of Arlyn’s apologetic is links to “Amazing discoveries” by Walter (Wally, Wuli) Veith?

    • oldavid
      Calling people names will never help your cause of lack of knowledge. Its pretty childish at your age to be calling people names don’t you think? You seem to be the Wally for your lack of understanding. He is a Professor of theology and he is highly respected world-wide

  46. You blokes are incomprehensible! On one hand you’re lambasting me for my impertinence for not swallowing your commonplace “wisdom” and political correctness; on another hand you claim an arbitrary “right” to dismiss two millennia of history in favour of any other “Professor of theology” that comes along with the apparent intention of doing to death that wretched Messiah that dared to propose a Kingdom other than what you desire.

    Your Wuli, Arlyn, is only one “Professor of theology” among thousands of competing/conflicting others, some of whom had roots in Scripture and Tradition pre-dating your guru by about two millennia.

    I say again that Scripture is like lecture notes. John the Apostle gave the hint: “These, and many other things did Jesus say which, if they were written the whole World, I think, would not contain all the books”.

    What you’re essentially claiming is that Scripture can be edited, interpreted and reinterpreted according to the convenience of the day.

    Even your crossy jumbo jet mate has declared his autonomy:
    “I have my own understanding so I have not bothered with someone elses in Amazing Discoveries.”

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