Remembering Blanche Chavoustie

by Mary W Maxwell, LLB

Yesterday I learned that my friend Blanche Chavoustie died in April, 2016. I had  Googled for her name and got a funeral home’s website where some family friends had put a nice comment.  I have not yet seen an obituary, so I don’t know how she died.

Blanche, I salute you and I thank you for contributing to the rescue of many victims both of electronic harassment and mind-control experimentation. When you disappeared in 2013 myself and other friends of yours worried that you were in captivity. I was almost relieved to learn that you have now passed away with dignity. I am sorry for all you suffered and I share the guilt of not having done enough to help remove this curse from our society.

I’ll now post some things I’ve written before about Blanche, and a few new items, and then print out her excellent interview with Wayne Morris, which is dated about 15 years ago.

Blanche was born in Syracuse, New York in February 17, 1938. She would have turned 80 last week. One thing about her that is uncontested is that she had a Delgado implant, that is, a “stimo-ceiver.” She lived in St Cloud, Florida, in a trailer park and was the victim of electronic harassment. That is, she was a “targeted individual.” I remember her as a wonderful person, fun to be with, and a caring grandmother.

Her childhood home in Syracuse was a few doors away from that of Allen Dulles. He, then a member of the OSS, experimented on her personally. You can see their respective street addresses in the 1940 census records, which are now public.

Blanche As a Member of the Truth Commission

In 2010, Kathleen A Sullivan, MSW (Master of Social Work), decided that the best plan for the newly-emerging group of MK-Ultra victims would be to form a Truth and Reconciliation Coalition. Kathleen asked me to join, as she had met me at Neil Brick’s SMART conference in Connecticut in 2006 . SMART means Stop Mind Control and Ritual Abuse Today.

Kathleen Sullivan envisioned that the TRC would b made up of eleven  survivors and three laypersons such as myself. I told Kathleen I’d think about joining, but she had already informed the group that I accepted and so, not I wanting to cause disappointment, I joined. The TRC later got white-anted by the CIA, but while it was flourishing, I met its members. Blanche Chavoustie became my friend, as did two others in the group, and two of the others became my friends. (They are unusually strong women.)

Blanche came to my home in Massachusetts in 2011 and stayed a while to get relief from the electronic harassment. At night she would don a rather complicated garment to stave off any hits. She also taught me how to wrap a cell phone in “silk silver” to prevent incoming calls. She said she had bought such products through one of the electronic-harassment victims’ groups. I think she said she bought it from Jim Humble.

The Trip to San Diego

In 2011, I escorted Blanche to San Diego, as she had wanted to cross the border into Tijuana to obtain a certain medical treatment. I will get to that later. While we were in San Diego, she visited an elderly lady friend who invited her to live in her house. Blanche was happy to do that but later she told me that at a Sunday church meeting, this lady also offered hospitality to a man who said he was homeless. Blanche saw that guy to be a CIA plant who would cause her trouble.

She thus went abroad, and our gang believed until now that she hadn’t been heard of again. Her intention was to go to Norway to be with her dear Dr Rauni-Leena Luukanen-Kilde, but I didn’t think she had money to do that. (See video in the comments below about Kilde, who died in 2015.) Blanche had also stayed at a retreat for troubled women in Vancouver, Canada.

A brief word here about the Tijuana thing. Blanche was sure her stimo-ceiver was implanted in 1961 when she was 23. Please note that a person with that device in their brain has no privacy! “Outsiders” can track everything they say, and everything they see. Thus, I, too, had no privacy when I was with Blanche. Boy, was that annoying.

She wanted to enter Mexico in pursuit of a cancer treatment. I, being not very cautious, was willing to go with her. At that point I did not know that some of the clinics in Mexico were run by the CIA. Did she have cancer? She thought she didn’t have it, but she had a huge open sore on the left side of her left breast. She said when she exercised at the gym (she was very physically fit), the sore would bleed onto the floor.

Being the widow of a doctor, I figured I could get one of my husband’s colleagues in Australia to assist her. No. They all seemed to sense that they weren’t supposed to get involved with Blanche.

You may think Yours Truly was trying to conduct some sort of investigation, but no, I was not. My pal Blanche, then age 72, was looking for the most ordinary right to medical care and we were rebuffed all over the place. By the way, I looked up “doctors-for- 9-11 truth,” and made an appointment with one such guy, figuring he would not share the other doctors’ fear. Wrong again!

The Delgados

As is well known, Dr Jose Delgado was experimenting with stimo-ceivers, first in rabbits and then in humans. Stuart Mackay’s 1968 book, Biomedical Telemetry, reports this in detail. Delgado had been a professor both at Yale and at University of Madrid. He is famous for jumping into a bullfight ring and stopping the oncoming animal by using a remote-control device.

The bull had, of course, been implanted with a Delgado stimo-ceiver. The word “ceiver” means the creature can receive messages.  The word “stimo” means the lab workers can press a button to make the creature fell pain, or run, or whatever.

Anyway, I phoned a colleague of Delgado in Massachusetts thinking I could get a bit of info, but he (big academic) said no. I then rang Jose Delgado who was 92 years old. I left a voice message about the Blanche problem. The next day he phoned me back, to my amazement.

First his wife Caroline got on the line (she has a German accent and is 20 years younger than Jose) and said “I had a dream last night about Blanche.” Then he came on and was very sympathetic-sounding and said he would like to help but all his helpers were deceased. The conversation ended politely.

I later attempted to visit the Delgados and can say that they lived in a low-income neighbourhood, not like a professorial salary would suggest. My guess is that they had always been kept under the same mean control as were their victims!

Other Bits

Further on in this article I will let Blanche speak – as she was interviewed in depth by Wayne Morris. Here I only want to put on record two more items, which may help other victims (or, as they prefer to be called, “survivors”)

The first item is Blanche’s “magnetic” quality. When we were in a hotel room, in semi-dress, she showed me how metal sticks to her skin. She used a small disc – I am pretty sure it was a quarter (25-cent piece). She laid it in her forehead, then her breast, then her ankle.  In every instance it did not fall off.  Then she handed it to me and I placed it in those same three positions on my body and of course it fell off right away. I lack the knowledge to say that this means she is magnetic. I haven’t heard any of the other victims mention such a thing. Nor can I guess if it has to do with her stimoceiver.   Poor Blanche.

The other item is the electronic harassment, plus gang-stalking, to which she was constantly subjected. She told me – I did not witness this – that soon after she parked in the trailer park, another trailer (caravan) with a giant dish parked next to hers.

I never saw her receive hits. (I did see another member of the Truth Commission receive a hit, in 2011.) But I am qualified to say that I witnessed Blanche get gang-stalked several times. She called it “street theatre” and it was rather amusing.  Strangers at the table near us in a restaurant would start taking among themselves, with conversation involving things that Blanche and I happened to have done the previous day, or something like that. Granted it could be coincidence, but when it happened a few times in one week you’d take it to be a planned activity.

She also told me that if she was, say, giving her name when making a purchase, the clerk would say “Chavoustie, Chavousitie, rhymes with travesty.” This was a way of letting her know she was being followed.  Not that this was needed, since, as I said, her inside-reporter was always “following” her.

The Interview with Wayne Morris

The interview below , abridged by me, can be found here and also at whale.to. I have bolded parts that could shed light on the situation of other victims. It could also help some prisoners who are clearly Manchurian Candidates. For example, Blanche lived in the same building as David Berkowitz, known as Son of Sam, a supposed serial killer in New York City in the 1970s.

By the way, Blanche also told me – and this is echoed by Wendy Hoffman’s story – that throughout her life she suddenly got new jobs or new apartments, thinking she had chosen them but later realized it was all set up for her by “other players.”

Blanche Chavoustie, Radio-Interviewed by Wayne Morrison 

Good morning, and welcome to another International Connection. This is show number 30 in a series on mind control, and today we are going to hear an interview with Blanche Chavoustie, a survivor of various US government mind control experiments. Blanche is the American coordinator for ACHES-MC, the Advocacy Committee for Human Experimentation Survivors of mind control, who are currently engaged in a campaign to open a government investigation into the mind control experiments.

Wayne. 1. I would like to start off by asking you if you could tell us how you first came to suspect that mind control was being used on you?

Blanche. It was a long, hard struggle to discover that actually. In 1989 I started experiencing harassment, almost daily, and stalking. It happened at least a few times a week…. Sometimes it would happen when my friends were with me, but usually when I was by myself. Also, very weird phone messages would be left. I just didn’t know what to make of it … The only thing I knew was that whoever was doing it had to have a lot of money because they had resources to spend to have people following me.

In May of 1990, after very severe harassment, I was kidnapped and taken to Cornell Medical Centre in Westchester. There I was put into isolation and they tried to force me to take drugs which are written of as “chemical straitjackets”, “drugs of punishment and control”. There was really no reason for this. I was trying to explain to them that yes, I am upset, but I am being harassed and I have witnesses to it. I invite you to speak with them.

Wayne. 2. How did they kidnap you?

Blanche.  A person who worked at the hospital whom I had never met before tricked me into his car, and once I was at the hospital, there was like no way I could get away. I realized what was going on, I tried to leave the building, and six people surrounded me, put me on the floor, and I was trapped.

Wayne. 3.  What was their purported reason for keeping you at the hospital?

Blanche. It changed during the time I was there. They insisted that I was hearing voices, even though I said that I wasn’t.

Wayne. 4. You had told them about the harassment …

Blanche. I told them about the harassment, I told them I had seen a therapist on the outside who knew about it, who thought it was a cult that was harassing me, they would not speak to her, they would not speak to witnesses, they did everything to suppress information that would have shown what the truth was.

Wayne. 5. Did they actually administer drugs to you?

Blanche. They were ordered for me, and I refused to take them. The first morning I was there at 7.30 or 8.00 am, whenever they give out meds, they wanted me to take them. I refused. I told them I don’t need them, there is nothing wrong with me except that I am being harassed. I wrote out a letter to the Director of the Hospital asking for a hearing.

…I still insisted that I wanted to have a hearing and I did go and the Judge did rule that they could not force medication on me. The papers they sent to the court and the doctor who attended said I was “suicidal” … the judge said that I should be committed for 30 more days and he allowed me to move to another hospital. At the next hospital they evaluated me, and I was released almost immediately.

Wayne. 6.  Morris:  How long were you at Cornell?

Blanche. I was at Cornell for 21 days, maybe 22.

Wayne. 7.  Was it at that time you had begun to suspect you were being used for …

Blanche.  Probably this was somehow connected to an experiment I participated in in Vancouver, B.C., in Canada in 1973 (it might have been 1974). At Hollywood Hospital where I went to participate in an LSD experiment.

Wayne. 8.  At the time were you aware of Hollywood Hospital’s involvement in LSD and mind control

Blanche.  I was watching a movie. In the beginning of the movie they had a prologue that included a clipping from the New York Times, the clipping said something like “…the CIA is looking for drugs that will create a perfect spy by creating amnesia for specific events”. When I saw that it just rang a bell. I thought “if that would be true, if there is such a thing, that would explain so much”. And the date of that clipping was August 1977 so of course I couldn’t wait to get to the library, and when I did get to the library, that was the beginning of the discovery of the truth.

In the library I found that article and many other articles … and that was the time of Senate Subcommittee Investigation. …I wrote down all of the places where I thought I had possibly been experimented on, and I went to the NY Times and I found a reporter who had been involved in writing those stories in the 70’s and I said could you just tell me if these places were also involved. And he said yes, they were, but don’t jump to any conclusions.

Wayne. 9. Why don’t we start chronologically. What happened when you were two years old?

Blanche. Actually I just discovered this … I always knew this but I never fit this into the whole picture until about a month ago. When I was two years old, my father came in my playroom and he had what I thought was a mousetrap and he put it down on the floor and he put it under a cabinet that was in my room, and he told me “don’t touch this, it will bite you” and I think he put chocolate in it as bait.

[Note from MM: Blanche told me that she later decided it was probably bacon, not candy.]

I didn’t touch it that day, but the next day when he was gone to work,I touched it, and it snapped, and I went running to my mother with this trap on my hand. She wouldn’t take it off. She just shut me in my playroom. I can’t remember how I did get it off, and I spoke to her about it last week. And it’s interesting, she can’t remember either. She remembers that it happened, and she said that it wasn’t a mouse trap, it was a rat trap. She doesn’t know why she wouldn’t take it off. She said I told your father that he shouldn’t do that …

I was sleeping one night when I was 7 years old and these three little guys came through my window, little men I thought they were. At the time I described them as being similar to the cut-outs in the back of our dining room chairs. That was on the weekend, and on Monday I had to go to the hospital because I had scarlet fever. When I was in the hospital the parish priest came up to the window and talked to me, and I was on a high floor, so this was not a possibility in reality. I later asked my mother about the three little guys that I saw, and what about the priest coming up to my window. She said well they were hallucinations because you had a temperature of 106.

Once I accepted the possibly that was an experiment … I knew when I was in the hospital at that time I was one of the first children in the country to be given penicillin.

Wayne. 10. And the particular act of using a mouse trap?

Blanche. Yes. Yes. That’s been written about. You can get the Greenbaum lecture off the web at MindControlForum. It states in there that this is one of the things they do.

Wayne. 11. What do you think was the purpose of inflicting that kind of pain?

Blanche. I’ve thought about it a lot. One thing is that it terminates your trust in your mother completely. To run to her in such pain, and to have her shut you in your room. There you are, you’d better become self-reliant very fast.

Wayne. 12. Were there any other events that happened in your childhood that would indicate that your parents were involved in experimentation?

Blanche. The parents in the particular experiment in Estabrooks’ writing were told that the only requirement of them was that they had at least three children. I know that shortly after my second sister was born, my father won the lottery, so I thought maybe that was the payment.

…I don’t think anything ever happened after that until I was in college. I went to Oswego State Teachers College which is on the Great Lakes, up on Lake Ontario. People helped me discover this. I thought I was selected when I was a senior in College possibly because several times that year, and several times in my junior year, my picture appeared in the local newspaper.

What I think happened there is that all of the psychology departments in the U.S.A. had been invited by [Wild Bill] Donovan to scout out people when the OSS was set up, so they were all participating in one way or another, and they were probably glad to do it. At that time they were looking to find people who were highly intuitive.

Wayne. 13.  Who do you think was behind the selection of people they apparently would be using in mind control experiments?

Blanche. I think, from what I just told you, it’s possible that I was volunteered when I was a child. Maybe my father thought it was his patriotic duty, I don’t know.. Maybe I was selected to be testing penicillin. Maybe those little people that I saw coming through my window were actually a test of some kind of technology that could be later used to trick people and make people think that aliens are coming in.

Wayne. 14.  Did you come across any direct evidence of connections between the people involved in George Estabrooks work and the psychology department at universities?

Blanche. He graduated from Harvard. He was not the first person to write about multiple personality, but he was the first person who was thought to have been manipulating a multiple personality.

Wayne. 15.  He was also involved, according to Dr. Colin Ross, creating so-called Manchurian Candidates by using hypnosis. Apparently he did brain implant experiments on children and you are saying also that he was involved in the more trauma based conditioning aspects of mind control.

Blanche. He was. He believed in the use of different drugs, and he believed in implants. I don’t know exactly what they were doing, but they started in the Harvard Centre, called the Morton Prince Centre, which I believe Estabrooks actually founded.

Wayne. 16.  Do you believe you were personally involved in the brain implant experimentation?

Blanche. I am absolutely sure that I am and I went to the hospital in the fall of 1961 at Penn State. I had a pain on my hand, a small tumor on my hand. While I was being operating on, I was given a total anaesthetic, and I heard one doctor saying this sexual message … I don’t think I can say it on the radio … he kept repeating it, and I thought he was saying it to the other doctor. I thought “boy, this is really weird,” even thought I was semi conscious.

… Then in 1966 I went to the hospital in Buffalo, New York for another minor operation and there the doctor said I had a brain tumour and he did x-rays. I stayed two weeks in the hospital and the examinations and the things they did during that two weeks were horrendous, really horrendous. When I got out of the hospital and went to the doctor for a check-up he showed me in the x-rays where the tumour was, but it made no sense that I went in for a minor operation and woke up with a brain tumour.

Wayne. 17.  When you initially went to the hospital, was it an operation around your head?

Blanche. No, no. It was a D&C operation, the scraping of the uterus. It’s a minor procedure.

Wayne. 18. But they gave you a total anaesthetic at that time, and you believe they had done an implant at that time?

Blanche. Oh yes, because how could you possibly wake up with a brain tumour from another operation?

[Note from MM – Blanche told me she believes the offending item, i.e., the stimo-ceiver, was inserted up her nasal passage.]

Wayne. 19. Do you remember what happened to you during that two-week period?

Blanche. The two weeks I was in the hospital? They did different operations and things to me, they gave me a spinal tap, and they did a pneumo-encephalogram where they inject an ounce of air into your head. …It was really barbaric.

Wayne. 20.  And you believe that at Penn State the doctor was actually speaking to you, or do you think it may have been a tape? Was it the exact same …

Blanche. In retrospect, I think probably they just left me in a room with a tape, it probably wasn’t one doctor repeating the same message over and over again to the other doctor.

Wayne. 21. Then after Buffalo, what happened?

Blanche. The next major centre that I went to was Syracuse University and I participated knowingly in an experiment that I knew was designed to influence my mind….. They offered to pay $35.00 if you came in for two sessions. This would have been 1968 and they said you would be taking some projective tests and you would be watching a movie.

So I went to the experiment at Syracuse, and the doctor introduced himself. He said he wanted to inject me with something, but he didn’t tell me what it was. I agreed. I figured he wouldn’t do anything to hurt me. Then he just sat and stared at me, and the student sat and stared at me … must have been a minute or two … and I was thinking, This must be part of the experiment.

Wayne. 22. Do you believe they injected you with some kind of drug that had knocked you out?

Blanche. Right. It also caused me not to even think about it. Just forget about it. I had to go back the next week. … They were accusing me of different things, but I couldn’t explain myself, and I couldn’t defend myself. If that is what they call truth serum, it’s a joke, because nothing came from me that was the truth on that day.

Wayne. 23.  You went just the twice there for the experiment?

Blanche. I went those two times for the paid part of the experiment, but I think many other things happened that year that were a result of that. I was a graduate student in the School of Journalism and I lived near the campus in a private apartment.

One morning when I woke up, it felt so much like electricity was going through my body, that I examined my bed every possible way to see if there was any way it could have been touching something on a wall (a wall socket) …I think many times they have used electricity on me. I know they have.

Wayne. 24. Going back to those two experiments you volunteered for, right after those what was your involvement with the people who had done the experiments?

Blanche. No, I never talked to them again. …I was hired on the spot for a job I wasn’t really qualified for, which was being senior editor of a science project. I was hired, and I found an apartment in one week. I went to a place in Glenwood, N.Y. I can’t remember who told me to go there. It turned out to be the building that David Berkowitz lived in. I moved out in 1972, and I think he moved into the building in 1973. I believe he was on the top floor, and I had been on the 4th floor. Many strange things happened in that building.

Wayne. 25. Just to take a step back. Before you had the experiments done at Syracuse, what kinds of future plans did you have?

Blanche. Before starting that term at Syracuse, I was recently divorced. My husband and I split up in 1966. We had been married since 1960, and I hoped that I would get married again, and teach school, or whatever.

Wayne. 26. What I am trying to get at is do you feel you were influenced in some way to make that move?

Blanche. I think the person at the placement agency sent me to a job that was specifically waiting for me.

I think it was all arranged…  In the apartment building, David Berkowitz wrote about it – that voices came through the walls, and he was so upset. Those same things were going on sometimes with my daughter, and she was drawing strange things, and she was very upset. I took the drawings that she did, the dreams that she had — and I consulted a psychiatrist in New York. He wouldn’t look at them. He just said, “well, if your daughter is upset, then you need to be in therapy.”

…This third person was hanging around harassing me, and once I met him, he was in my life. I couldn’t shake him. I even sent you a copy of a brief piece from one of the letters he wrote me, saying that he feels he has to “hurt me”. I mean, this is really sick and sadistic, and it seems so endless. It has been going on for my whole life.

Many of the things that happened to me – when they happened seemed like coincidence…. Now I know that I have this implant on the underside of my optic nerve which is why I could see things. Then they would come to pass. I would see something in my mind and then I would later see it in reality and I would think there must be some great significance to this, on my path, something I am supposed to do. I would try to explain it to myself that way.

Wayne. 27.  Looking back, what do you think actually happened there in this dream research lab experiment? Were they actually measuring your telepathic abilities?

Blanche. No, I think it was the development of what people are calling synthetic telepathy now… but actually it was probably electromagnetic fields.

Wayne. 28. Some kind of signalling with electromagnetic equipment ..… I wonder if we could talk about what your experiences were at the hypnotherapy centre and the particular doctor who was involved in directing that?

Blanche. That person is still directing it … the Morton Prince Centre. I worked there as a freelance agent more or less, I saw clients privately. Milton Kline ran the Centre at the time and his work was reported by John Marks in “The Search for the Manchurian Candidate“. He was quoted as saying he could create a “patsy” in three months and an assassin in six. He was also mentioned as a person who was an advisor to the CIA on the construction of Manchurian Candidates.

Wayne. 29. What was your involvement with Milton Kline?

Blanche. He ran the Centre. About the second or third time, I realized the record she was keeping was wrong. She had written that she was treating me for parasites that I got in the Orient. This was very strange because I had never been to the Orient and I had never been tested for parasites. So I realized she was keeping a false record me.

While I was in her office … I started marking my file. I underlined and circled parts that were wrong and wrote “error” beside incorrect statements. Then I realized there were too many mistakes for this to be an accident and I decided to make a copy of the file. I took the file and hurried down the street with it. When I got to the corner, I asked the man at the stoplight if he know where there was a copy machine, and he pointed down the street at a copy store. I went in and copied the information … and in comes the man I had just seen at the corner, he is following me. He stands there watching me.

I have a case in court – it started in 1991. Recently the court wanted all the records of all the doctors I had ever been to practically since I was born. I was afraid she was going to turn in some false records on me. Much to my surprise, she said that she had no records of me. Isn’t that interesting?

Wayne. 30. In court did you show the copies false records?

Blanche. Yes, I still have them. I still have her bills, cancelled cheques. She doesn’t have records of me but I have records of seeing her.

Wayne. 31. Did you have experiences with doctors that you were later able to identify were involved in the CIA mind control?

Blanche. When I went to the library and started finding out the names I realized that many of the centres and people that were involved in my case were actually named in the Church Committee Hearings.

I wrote a little piece about the domino effect. One person is set up to press on another, and another, — finally the whole line goes down but no one knows anything except who was behind them and who was in front of them and they would be very surprised to see the whole picture.

Dr. Wolff was the head of Cornell and the Human Ecology Society at the same time. He said that it was important to understand the ways children were raised and the influences of the culture, then you can use these influences in mind control. He said that he would offer the unwitting use of Cornell patients for mind control ….

Wayne. 32.  He has been well documented and the Human Ecology Society has been well documented as a funding front for the CIA mind control experimentation.

Blanche. He was head of both of them at the time. Cornell was where I was taken, and I thought there was probably a big chance of people running the hospital sharing his philosophy….

Wayne. 33.  Did you ever test yourself in terms of prone to hypnosis you are?

Blanche. Yes. I think on a scale of 1-5, I score high, 4. Sometimes narco-hypnosis has been used on me — you are injected with something and then you are hypnotized. I think anyone would be totally susceptible.

Wayne. 34.  Are you aware of other mind control technologies that were used on you, or that you suspect?

Blanche. There are hand signals and verbal signals, so that what you see triggers some kind of behavior that has nothing to do in reality with the signal. Tapping 3 times might put you into a trance and might push you to doing something that was a post-hypnotic suggestion.

Wayne. 35. I am getting the feeling these are just a few examples of what has been used on you.

Blanche. They are so clever. If you try to explain to somebody who doesn’t understand what is going on, you sound crazy.

Wayne. 36.  You do have a legal case against the Cornell Medical Centre at New York Hospital. Is the case against the for wrongly detaining you at the hospital?

Blanche. There are 13 allegations. It’s for violations of civil rights and malpractice. I had a time finding someone to take the case. Several people who said they would take it (one person kept it for 16 months before he gave it back it to me).

As soon as I opened the case, six months later the Hospital opened a case against me. I have been struggling with that. Their case against me has been dismissed twice and it has been off the calendar for over a year, and they were trying to open it again last summer. Now they say they are not going to. It has been six years they have been – it seems like – torturing me with it. …My case has had a lot of problems because there have been delays on the part of judges in making decisions. It seems so slow.

Wayne. 38.  In terms of their case against you, what was the nature of the allegations?

Blanche. They wanted to sue me for fees, believe it or not. They had never billed me. I told them from the very beginning that I had no means of paying them and I didn’t have insurance.  I didn’t have the kind of money to pay for hospital bills like that and I didn’t have a need to be there.

Three weeks before he and I were to go to court, I saw the papers he was planning to present and I told him I did not want him to represent me any further. He refused to stop representing me. I told him that, and I wrote him a registered letter, but he insisted on going to court.

I was bewildered as to what I should do, but I went to court on the same day. I went up before the judge. I handed the judge the paper I had sent to him and I said ‘Your Honour … this is what is going on here … I don’t want this man representing me’. The judge looked at what I had written and he was very harsh with him, and he said “these are very serious allegations she is making … you do what she says … you withdraw from the case immediately.”

So the judge told him to withdraw from the case, to go immediately across the hall and do it before he left the building. And out in the hall, the lawyer told me he was not withdrawing. The judge didn’t make it an order, he just told him to do it.

So I went to another lawyer and asked him what to do. He had never heard of such a thing. I wound up going to the disciplinary committee of the Supreme Court and explaining in writing what happened, and waiting for their reply and they said he didn’t do anything wrong,

On Friday I went back down to the court – I know you are not supposed to see the judge unless the other side is there but I had to ask him if there was anything else I could do. When I went there, he wasn’t there. He was in the hospital believe it or not. …And when he came back he had a totally different attitude toward me. He told me that if he told the lawyer that he had to withdraw from the case, that it was just a suggestion, and the lawyer didn’t have to do it. There I was. It’s been a real battle. I am exhausted by it.

Wayne. 39. What is your next move?

Blanche. We filed an appeal and within the next nine months the case will come to court. I have two good lawyers.

Wayne. 40. When you felt like you were being influenced to do something, what you were feeling at the time? How did it feel to be controlled?

Blanche. Another example of this is one day a long time ago, when I was single, I had a date with a person and during that time of four or five hours, I found myself swearing, cursing, using foul language — and I never have done that in my whole life — I have never talked like that. Each time that you do something that is not part of you, but is being projected onto you, you are likely to have a different experience of it. Usually for me, no one is more surprised about what is happening than I am, and it’s like you lose a sense of intimacy with yourself. You can’t tell who you are, what you are likely to do when you go out. Kay Bashier’s book talks about this. She was getting messages like, “kill your children” – she is very smart, and introspective, and she was able to figure out why this was happening. [Emphasis and numberings added]

Conclusion: [Mary Maxwell]: This is so sad. Blanche did not live to get satisfaction on her case, much less any apology for a lifetime of exhausting harassment and the indignity of being watched from within her own God-given brain.

–Mary W Maxwell’s book is entitled: Deliverance: a Royal Commission and “pizzagate” reveal society’s hidden rulers.