by James O’Neill*
The decision by the government of the Australian State of Victoria to sign a Memorandum of Understanding with China with a view to joining the Chinese initiated Belt and Road Initiative has caused consternation in the Australian establishment.
The decision has led to the Sydney Morning Herald in an editorial in its 30 May 2020 edition to editorialise against the decision. The editorial’s first passage set the tone for what was to follow.
The editorial referred in paragraph one to the Belt and Road Initiative being worth “hundreds of billions of dollars in investment across more than 60 nations.” It went on to refer, in the same paragraph, to “Beijing’s attempts to surpass an increasingly divided United States”.
Two major errors or misleading statements in the space of 7 ½ lines of the editorial is remarkable, even by the standards of Australia’s print media.
The editorial goes on to note that the federal government’s view of the Belt and Road Initiative is that Australia will “not sign up”. No reason and basis for that apparent policy was proffered. The misleading tone of the editorial continued with its claim of China’s willingness to extend its “growing…………. territorial ambitions”.
The rest of the editorial continues in the same vein, where any moves by Australian State officials to further relationships with China are “ill-advised”. Even China’s success in rapidly controlling the coronavirus outbreak is interpreted as “further justification for advancing its authoritarian ways”.
The editorial then repeats the “more than 68 countries signed up to the BRI”. The rest of that sentence is a further puzzle. It says that the more than 68 countries signing up(makes) “Victoria an outliner in that regard (that) should have been a red flag in itself”.
Let us look at these arguments in light of what is the actual situation.
The claim that “more than 68 countries” have signed up to the BRI is literally correct, but it is profoundly misleading. As at March 2020 the actual number of countries that had signed up to the BRI was 138, plus an additional 38 international organisations. 138 is certainly more than 68, in fact more than 100% greater than the Herald’s misleading number.
The composition of those national signatories is also revealing, something the Herald does not regard as necessary that their readers should know. The following small table gives an insight into the international scope of the project.
Signatories Thus Far to the BRI
38 countries in sub-Sahara Africa
34 countries in Europe and central Asia, including 18 countries who are members of the European Union.
25 countries in East Asia and the Pacific (including New Zealand which signed a memorandum of understanding with China in April 2017).
17 countries in the Middle East and North Africa.
18 countries in Latin America and the Caribbean.
6 countries in South East Asia.
It is at the very least profoundly insulting to those countries to suggest that they are all duped by China’s alleged ambitions. Are the governments of these 138 countries “ill-advised” as the editorial would have us believe?
The editorial’s claim that Beijing is attempting to surpass the United States is both vague and insofar is its meaning can be deciphered, inaccurate. The real measure of the size of an economy is parity purchasing power. This is a concept widely used by major international economic organisations to measure the real relative size of different economies.
Using that internationally recognised measure the Chinese economy actually surpassed the United States approximately eight years ago and is now more than one third larger. As the figures released showing the relative economic impact of the coronavirus outbreak show, the gap will widen substantially more this year. The United States has nearly 40,000,000 unemployed, and its gross domestic product is expected to shrink by 8% this calendar year.
China’s GDP figures are expected to show a small decline in the first two quarters before recovery. Unemployment has also risen but again, in absolute numbers and as a proportion of the labour force it is a fraction of the United States figures, despite having nearly five times as much total population.
The editorial as noted refers to China’s “growing territorial ambitions”. These are not specified and wisely so because the claim is total nonsense. If it is an allusion to the return of Hong Kong to mainland government that hardly qualifies as Hong Kong was part of China for 2000 years before falling victim to British imperialism (and the accompanying heroin addiction the British created from their Afghanistan sources.)
It is correct that China currently has a border dispute with India in a remote mountainous region. This is not new and goes back at least to 1914 and has flared off and on ever since. The relative merits of the argument of India and China are not relevant here. The point is that they hardly constitute “growing territorial ambitions”.
If it is an illusion to the South China Sea, the same argument holds true. It is not called the South China Sea for no reason. It is not the North American Sea or the Australian Sea, although both nations have taken it upon themselves to have warships patrolling the South China Sea waters. It is not difficult to imagine the huge furore that would ensue from western governments and media if China had regular naval patrols in the Caribbean or off the western United States coastline.
More significantly, for present purposes is that the claims by the Beijing government in the South China Sea are echoed exactly by the government in Taiwan. It is a point of detail that the western media and their governments consistently ignore. The Sydney Morning Herald with its fantastic claim of China’s alleged “growing territorial ambitions” also chooses to ignore.
One suspects that the real motive behind the Sydney Morning Herald editorial, and similar sentiments expressed in the mainstream media and among politicians of both major political parties, is that it is simply an echo of the Washington view.
Australia’s pretence of independence in its foreign policy has long since been discredited. That a major Australian newspaper should sink to such obvious distortions in support of government policy is really a measure of how low the concept of independence and promotion of national interest has sunk.
*Barrister at Law and geopolitical analyst. He may be contacted at joneill@qldbar.asn.au
“The claim that ‘more than 68 countries’ have signed up to the BRI is literally correct, but it is profoundly misleading. As at March 2020 the actual number of countries that had signed up to the BRI was 138.”
James it is hilarious that, as you say, the statement of “more than 68” is literally correct.
Good God.
Wow! Attack is the best form of defence eh James? In the face of the clear evidence that China, allied with the despicable Deep State, has declared out-and-out war on the west, you double down and shill even harder for them! Wow!
News flash – Australia will NEVER be militarily allied with China, because everyone know that China will require us (like all their “partners”) to be their bitch – not the Australian way James. In fact Australia will be part of a new emerging group allied through democracy and nationalism including US, Britain, Japan, India and Brazil.
China is losing the trade war with the US because Trump wouldn’t be their bitch. Hence they release bio-weapons, threaten India, threaten Taiwan, oppress Hong Kong and try to play us off against our long time allies. Why? Because they are a ruthlessly ambitious, unethical pack of psychopaths. Nothing new there.
Our cultures are oil and water. Ours is based in and informed by Judeo-Christianity. In this country we have generosity and a “fair-go”. Charity, redemption and forgiveness are foundational. China treats its own people with utter disdain. If you collapse in the street in China, people walk past you. China genocided 35 million of its own citizens and called it a positive thing. They encouraged children to dob in their parents who disobeyed the regime. Dobbing is the most un-Australian activity you can get.
China were gifted our manufacturing by the elite, globalist robber-barons. They did nothing to earn it other than convince the Rockefellers how ruthless they would be. Now they are coming for us using our wealth and cowardly traitors like you open the gates to let them in. This always happens. Cicero’s quote is again apposite.
I have no idea why Gumshoe give you and thereby the CCP this platform, but just know that your sick CCP propaganda doesn’t work on me and hopefully ditto most Gumshoe readers.
Richard – I am of the view that ALL opinions should be given ‘free play’. I believe the court of public opinion is the best arbiter for all kinds of thinking – it’s how we all advance as a society and why the powers that be have always attacked out inalienable right for being able to freely express what we think.
Totally agree Nemesis. But I can go to Buzzfeed to read leftist doggerel like this. I read Gumshoe as it is non-compliant with MSM narratives.
I think his panda-ing is awful but I agree SMH is rubbish, the website hardly even works, GUMSHOE is much better, Fairfax web service is %$#@ expletives @#$%. BRI is a deliberate CCP attempt to entrench Chinglish, it should be called One road One lane. They’re printing so much money the government could probably get half the apartments in Sydney back using proceeds of crime legislation.
as if being chinas bitch would be any worse than being the the bitch of usa, uk or anywhere else.
plenty of people in aus walk past sick and dying people in the street everyday and dobbers are everywhere.
you nor trump has any evidence china released bio-weapons.
usa has a documented history of blaming others for their false flags..
https://russia-insider.com/en/evidence-covid-was-us-biowarfare-attack-china/ri29622?ct=t(Russia_Insider_Daily_Headlines11_21_2014)&mc_cid=08c0a96702&mc_eid=7c60f0edd2
didnt fauci give 3.7 million to the wuhan lab? why does trump keep him around if he helped the “CCP” to release a bio weapon – unless it was, as some suggest, according to documents, that it wasnt the “CCP” at all…
https://youtu.be/mc1qY8ybQfE?t=461
Fair Dinkum – expand your thinking!
Nemesis – pull your head out!
James, I’d love a pair of the rose colored glasses you view China and its Belt and Road Initiative through.
You make everything about China seem so warm and fuzzy.
The majority of those countries you mention as being foolish enough to sign onto a Communist government’s (China) covert way of gaining control over the entire Globe – as China has been groomed to become, by the Globalist/Deep State – are in most part, beholden to the current Globalist system, like the E.U. Are governed by dictators or oligarchies, or are so devoid of any economic means, such as many countries within the African continent, that the carrot and the stick was hastily grabbed, and without any consideration for what was really on offer from China.
As Trump declared in his last speech at United Nations, Globalism is finished and all countries must regain their sovereignty.
Think about that statement.
Three cases as an example of what China is really about: Sri Lanka, Malaysia and Bangladesh, now have buyers remorse, and I will not go into detail here about their problems, but their woes can be accessed from the internet. And, they are just three countries of a growing number that are waking up to what China’s Belt and Road is all about.
And it ain’t all warm and fuzzy as they are selling.
That you would question why Daniel Andrews, and his CMMFEU controlled Labor government in Victoria, should cop the heat over Marxist Dan’s ulterior moves to cozy up to an ideology that Marxist Dan would like nothing more than to impose on the rest of this country, is simply stunning in its naivety!
I would suggest to you James, that you begin an urgent quest to understand to what, and to how, China has been made into the way it now is.
You could start with the Club of Rome and Maurice Strong’s links to the Chinese communist government, but I fear that pointer, that will add a few dots to join together, will be ignored by you.
Can someone tell me when China last invaded another country. From a Chinese perspective, Tibet is not another country.
I doubt if the Chinese government arE good folks but they appear to be waging war through trade rather than guns and I know which I prefer.
Tibet, that muslim place north west, and, lining up Taiwan, not bad for a place that has been making mostly clothing and plastic novelties for the last few decades.
But this is not about guys in red coats marching up beaches, it is soft power, mind control, finance swindles, bluff and disinformation, all the modern stuff.
Example, you trade me your apartment for this large bag of freshly printed USD.
That would be Tibet. Quite ruthlessly apparently. Hong Kong as we speak.
Agreed John O’d,(and bg)
Infiltration instead of invasion…
Goodness me. Have you got yourself up to speed on the LIMA declartation yet, James?
Now, I know anything race is apparently taboo ( a testament to how successful the ‘antiwaycist’ propaganda is, and how important it is to TPTB, it is the most sacrosanct movement) but your articles never mention anything about the racial dimension in all this.
Even if all of western civilization is not racist, 9/10ths of the world would still be racist.
Therefore, 90% agree: It is OK not to like immigration.
The Lima declaration just for you James.
Ned who’s that guy in between Hank and David?
And talking about “waycism”, from my experience, many (not all) Asian people can be as waycist as any other tribe. Chinese don’t seem to get on with Japanese (might have something to do with Nanking, and long memories) Koreans and Japanese, The list is long.
James… lawyer you may be but geopolitical analyst? Give over.
When Chinese were part of my extended family, I developed a few insights into their values and attitudes. Getting them drunk helped. I discovered that the entire Chinese diaspora, whether in Vancouver, Singapore, or Australia, were exhorted to dump their traditional languages and adopt Mandarin, to facilitate a global takeover.
There was no ambiguity.
This is to be the last great dynasty, run by the Chinese Emperor. if you want a rundown on what to expect I have it off-pat on oziz4oziz.com the article on how Australia was globalised (why am I poor in wealthy Australia). I wrote their agenda up in 2010.
Several years ago, the Rothschilds did bank swaps with China, reciprocated by the Rockefellers. America’s 1%, and Europe’s 1%, are part of the equation. In real geopolitics there is no national boundary. Our stupid defense deal with the US is a deal with the globalists, and defense of Australia has never been even an afterthought.
Likewise, China’s expansionism (just ask a Sri Lankan if its real) is part of globalisation. The only difference is that the Emperor of China has a Plan B. He intends to take over the Globalists.
Having played this game since 1850, the Globalists know this full well and will clip the Emperor’s wings when they consider he has outlived his usefulness.
Meanwhile, China has destroyed our manufacturing and much of our fresh food production, replacing this with global trade commodities. We have become dependent on Chinese product.
Our best defense is tariff restoration, with an aim of ending all trade whatsoever. Australia is the only nation that can achieve this, which is why we were targeted in 1973 and 1975.
Sorry Tony, I beg to differ immensley on your post. It was not the Chinese who advocated the destruction/transfer/removal of Australia’s manufacturing industries. For the life of me, where that idea came from, beggars belief. I actually heard and saw on our infamous TV the CEO’s of International Corporations and our Federal Government officials all supporting the globalisation crap, and encouraging offshoring our manufacturing Industries. To now come about and claim, as you do, it’s all cause the Chinese made it happen, is the biggest bullshit story I’ve ever heard. B.T.W. what was China’s situation when all this began ? From my memory, way back in the 60’s China was considered a back water and of no consequence. It’s also FACT, Australia’s off shoring back then, did NOT go to China. In fact it went to Singapore, (I was there, saw it happen) then when the standard of living rose and made manufacturing there too expensive, it was all transfered to Malaysia. Malaysia’s standard of living increased immensly as a direct result, and the P.M. of Malay at the time, obstructed International Corporations at every turn, gaining the reputation for himself as calitrant. This was a major issue for the Globalists, who then set up their program to give Malaysia a lesson or two. Which incidentally, is still on going today. Once things went pear shaped in Malay with manufacturing having to continually jump through hoops, it was all transfered to China, no one in the Western world objected. The stock market and investors were over the moon, and reaped the rewards for their actions. Very happy to supply China with all brand spanking new production facilities which made any left in Western countries, old clunker crap, compared to the T model Ford, which could never, ever gain on production facilities in China. So it was entirely predictable, that China would rocket ahead. But hey, that was cool, the investments were repaying their investors and everybody was happy. Even the New Silk road is a gold mine, however the Globalists are kicking themselves for not coming up with the idea themselves, as the riches to be gained from that are immense. Therefore boosting China even further and leaving the West in the dust.
Just like the Weimar Government in Germany, who’s GDP was skyrocketing and leaving the British in the dust, which was not allowed, thus the second World war was conducted to DESTROY Germanies productivity for good, the guns are now aimed at China to do the same thing to them.
It’s all about money and unadulterated greed. B.T.W. you are of course fully conversant with the U.S. policy that they will NEVER allow another nation to surpass them in productivity, military, or economic standards, right ? That’s what this is all about, greed and racisim, if they can’t have it no one can. So cut the bullshit. B.T.W. here’s an article you need to read ;
Instead of Accusing China of Trade Deficit ‘Trump Should Be Blaming US Corporations’, Economist Says
© REUTERS / Hyungwon
https://sptnkne.ws/Cy2J
Enjoy.
Being ignorant of history is probably survivable. Being naive, a fool and a bad judge of character is fatal.
Not taking sides at all but Reuters is owned by Rotschilds so what’s the use of such a link really, we need to hear from smart people who are NOT beholden to their masters
“From 1950 to 1975, Australia was the most prosperous nation on Earth and this was an egalitarian prosperity… almost all Australians were located within our famous demographic bell-curve middle-class, and with almost nobody living in poverty.”
Fair Dinkum – those who still cling to their old ideals and way of living, while blaming the white man for all their ills, will never see prosperity or equality, until they can accept change.
Maybe you could visit The Black Steam Train run by someone who completely understands that dynamic of demography and cultural exchange?
As always, expand your thinking.
As always, pull your head out!
Pearls of wisdom from John O’Donnell .
I know which I prefer too John – trade & good relations with all & avoidance of entangling alliances ( as stated by the Founding Fathers of the U.S constitution ) .
Where to start on Richard’s bizarre statements – all of which sound like CIA / mainstream media disinformation .
No, we can’t be China’s bitch Richard – much better to grovel to the genocidal American led Anglo-Zionist hegemons & be their bitch – which we most assuredly are.
What about this statement from Richard :
” China is losing the trade war with the US because Trump wouldn’t be their bitch ” .
You’ve been absorbing too much of Trump’s fantasy-land rhetoric about winning a trade war with China.
The HARD DATA says otherwise . As bad as America’s trade imbalances were under Obama , they actually GREW WORSE under Trump.
Yes, the U.S , unable to make competitive manufactured products , is importing MORE from China under Trump’s tenure while exporting LESS.
To the extent that the trade deficit is fractionally lower in recent months is due to the punitive tariffs that are hurting the U.S consumer as THEY are the ones paying the import taxes levied on Chinese products (in the form of higher priced goods ).
Actually, the MOST IMPORTANT REASON for slightly reduced trade deficits in recent months is that the U.S consumer is FLAT BROKE & Americans in general are buying less goods from ALL COUNTRIES – not just China .
This is not a consequence of Trump’s MAGA policies. It is a consequence of IMPOVERISHMENT .
And, contrary to the ludicrous statements made by Trump & his sycophants , the U.S trade situation is going to get much, MUCH worse.
China went into lockdown fast after the bioweapon COVID attack by the U.S.
Right now, while most of the U.S is in lockdown with unemployment at over 25 % , China’s industrial output is in high gear as the temporary disruption to their economy is a thing of the past & everyone is back to work .
China is , RIGHT NOW , making up for the deficit of goods that are NOT BEING PRODUCED in the western world due to the lockdown .
And, even after the lockdown is ended in western countries , many businesses & many jobs will NOT BE COMING BACK .
These people will permanently be thrown in the unemployment scrap heap.
Not so in China.
Bottom Line : China will FURTHER INCREASE ITS SHARE OF WORLD INDUSTRIAL OUTPUT while the U.S contracts under Trump’s tenure – the exact OPPOSITE of what Trump’s worthless rhetoric is saying.
Richard says : ” In this country we have generosity and a “fair-go”.
Yes, in THIS country (Oz) , we more or less do ( Port Arthur Massacre aside , children being taken away from mothers & custody being awarded to paedophile fathers to name just two of perhaps 400 or 500 exceptions I can think of ) .
But , in the case of the U.S , the country that , at the behest of its Israel Lobby foreign policy masters , is responsible ( just since 9/11), for killing , maiming , orphaning , displacing & dispossessing TENS of MILLIONS of peoples throughout the world.
By any objective measure, the United States is not the land of generosity or the ‘ fair-go ‘ & the sooner people wake up to this irrefutable truth , the better .
The fact of the matter is , countries are signing up in droves to China’s BRI because doing so has yielded TANGIBLE benefits – improved infrastructure , improved health outcomes as hospitals are built , lifespans are prolonged with GENUINE & sustainable increases in GDP per capita.
This is VISIBLE EVERYWHERE that China’s BRI has been initiated – there are NO EXCEPTIONS !!
Contrast that to two centuries or more of Anglo-American imperialism that has raped , looted & pillaged successive 3rd world countries & left them with crushing debt burdens.
Make no mistake, these countries are not stupid. They know that trade alliances with the Anglo-Imperialists just offer more of the same.
Truth Vigilante, spot on, accurate post. Everything you’ve posted is supported by none other than this : nstead of Accusing China of Trade Deficit ‘Trump Should Be Blaming US Corporations’, Economist Says
© REUTERS / Hyungwon
https://sptnkne.ws/Cy2J
Dr Paul Craig Roberts, an American economist who served as the United States assistant secretary of the treasury for economic policy, has shared his views on the matter.
I’m pretty sure this guy has more factual facts at his hand than all the posters on here claiming to know it all. IMHO, he too is dead right, because I witnessed it unfold in person in Singapore.
What many posters on here seem to be totally ignorant of is this :
Professor Carroll Quigley wrote a 1300 page book entitled “Tragedy & Hope. A History of the World in Our Time” where he blatantly told the world the intentions of the elites.
“The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank… sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.“
Notice, not a word or whiff of China, amazing .
And this ;
The Project for the New American Century.
The People versus the Powerful is the oldest story in human history. At no point in history have the Powerful wielded so much control. At no point in history has the active and informed involvement of the People, all of them, been more absolutely required.
By William Rivers Pitt
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1665.htm
I looked at your sputnik link and I found it was the most diluted piece I could ever conceive of from Paul Craig Roberts, it could have been written by anyone, it has virtually no value at all, except maybe to someone who has been on a desert island for 30 years.
Eddy – Corporations have no national borders. It is via Corporations/Central Banks, that our media is controlled and our politicians get their marching orders.
Corporate HQ is with the Globalist/Deep State not within specific countries.
Corporations are all about pursuing the Globalist agenda that Trump is actively destroying, and that you and others on this site, simply refuse to see.
Not everything that Sputnik puts out is designed to be Western friendly, so one needs to pick through the propaganda before making any judgement on any article supporting that headline.
” usa has a documented history of blaming others for their false flags.. ” .
Abso – EFF’n – lutely Dinkum .
That’s all you need to know about ANY major act of malfeasance in the world post JFK .
Third try.
FALSE FLAG EVENTS HAVE BEEN CARRIED OUT FOR YONKS AND THE MSM ARE COMPLICIT WITH THEM BY ONLY REPORTING VERSIONS DICTATED TO IT BY THE MURDERERS.
TRY:
Hitler with his Reischtag ((sp?) fire to blame commies.
Hitler dtessing up prisoners as Poles as a reason to send in the sukers to bomb Poland.
Operation Gladio in Europe with NATO murdering travellers at Bologna railway station.
The Maine in a Cuban harbour.
Oaklamah bombing.
The 1993 bombing of a twin tower in New York.
The 2001 murder of thousands and a few at the Pentagon.
Try Port Arthur? A Aussie false flag.
The Lindt cafe is sus. No one expliained why he was on bail.
The gunpowder plot to set up catholics to nick assests. (A decade or so James wrote a good article on that)
Why was Caesar murdered?
I give up, unless it is recognised, as Fraser commented upon in his last interview, any government will kill their own for politi al purposes…. look at the USS Liberty and the Israeli operation Suzannah.
The KGB blew up high rise residences to blame the Chechans.
About time the people woke up and stopped believing murderers in government and the historical protectorate of refuseniks, by their lies, only enabling culprits to GET AWAY WITH IT SO IT WILL BE CONTINUED.
James Bond, a propaganda story of one mans fantasy heroism saving the world with techno gadgets built into his wristwatch. Before James Bond they were called “spooks”
malcom fraser said never trust the americans they will stab you in the back first chance
me – did he? Specifically, what kind of American was he referring to, the honest Joe on the street, that like many of us in this country, was getting shafted by the government and the Deep State intelligence operatives, or was it those doing the shafting?
From a personal point of view. I would not have trusted anything that Australian traitor would have told anyone!
The last few articles on here elicited minimal responses, I’ve got the feeling tonight it could be hot in the kitchen. Also a welcome to “Joe the new guy” from last week. Joe it was a notable entrance, almost seinfeldish, and a reminder to us all that none of us were born awake. Ps Lets try and be nice to each other, we are supposed to be on the same team
*avagoodweegend Mr Walker!
*me tryna be nice! 🙂
Eddy , your analysis is outstanding – it leaves anything I had to say in the shadows .
Meanwhile , good of you Ned to remind readers of all the False Flags perpetrated over the years ( add to that more recent goings on like 9/11, London 7/7 , Bali & Madrid train bombings to name just a few ) & the U.S/Israeli tentacles of mischief are even more apparent.
How quickly people forget !
Hang on , let me look through that list of yours again Ned & the ones that occurred post 9/11 .
Maybe there’s something I missed ? Surely China was involved in one or more of those False Flags ?
After all , ‘ bg ‘ & Nemesis have insisted that the CCP is the epicentre of malfeasance in the world today .
SURELY , there must be something to what ‘ bg ‘ & Nemesis are saying?
Surely they wouldn’t stoop to making allegations against China without at least some evidence to back up their claims ?
Hmmm , I carefully scrutinised each event & then looked again & just could not find a China connection .
Funny that .
Why misrepresent me, that’s a low form of argument
I think maybe when you say…
“I think his panda-ing is awful”
in reference to James simply pointing out that Victoria is no alone, is actually among. in fact, quite a bloody huge mob…
i think “misrepresenting” is a long bow to draw 🙂
i mean… if youre honest, you really are not much of a fan of China… are you?
Before China we traded with “the 4 dragons” whatever it was. Before that Japan. Before that England. After China we trade with anyone, who cares about CCP, they’re a paper tiger.
There are plenty of centres of malfeasance all over the place, China is not really special in that sense. They may be a bubble ready to pop.
so, not a fan. 🙂 – no worries! 👍
@eddy and untruth veggie, prof quigleys books cover the period up to ca 1965. he died decades ago.
so anybody invoking him in 2020 has to show in my view why his analysis of the period 1890, with milners kindergarten, cecil rhodes etc. through ww1 up to 1965 is still applicable now. personally i think it is.
also because one of his books had to be published post mortem, pressure not to publish was clearly exerted.
memo to untruth veggie, unlike you quigley does not believe the JUICE, orange or pineapple, are in the drivers seat, you will find no mention in quigley of the zionist usury banking cabal beloved of yourself.
Dinkum , the commercial you posted with Max Walker brings back memories.
I met him & most of the Aussie cricket team at the SCG when I was a kid – we’d run onto the field at the conclusion of a days play in the days when that was the done thing.
Those were the days.
and the streakers!
ahhhh….. the mammarys!
Fair, sp. mammaries. (assuming you meant two, or more than one).
Thanks Mary, what was I thinking!?
I knew a girl once that had an extra breast in the middle of her back. She was often teased, but she was great fun to dance with.
Suff James, who cares. That beautifl from Russia with love took the cake with me and replaced Grace and the rest? Love the conditioning of peasants who are distracted by ……….tuts. works a treat.
Next time son, keep your social distancing or cop a 1,100 fine.
Ps: do not touch a licked bowlers ball.
Confuscious say.
‘Sandpaper is friend in hand’.
Smart people who are not beholden to their masters!
Thats us, now for all the smarts to be awakened.
‘ bg ‘ , while others here on Gumshoe may have been more focused on criticism if the CCP , you are clearly in Trump’s camp & an advocate of his agenda , ….. no ?
Well, Trump is smearing the CCP & China’s trade policies ( a way of deflecting the structural problems that make U.S industries uncompetitive & financial chicanery which is representative of the fraud which is the U.S economy ) , so if you’re pro-Trump you are , by definition , anti-China & all that goes with it .
So, feel free to clarify if you wish.
‘ bg ‘ are you pro-Trump on all his policies EXCEPT for his stance on the CCP / China trade issues / alleged Chinese authoritarianism etc , where you are more amenable ?
OR, are you with Trump on the entire range of issues , across the board?
Which is it ?
I think Trump has far more hope of fixing up the place than all the heroes of the left, Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Ceaușescu, Clintons, Obama, Mandela, they all turned out badly for the people. But the right wing fascist dictator Mussolini got the correct treatment fairly early on.
Hence, you are far better off with the local conservative guy than the global socialist.
Just because one may be critical of Trump, does not automatically make ” Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Ceaușescu, Clintons, Obama, Mandela,” their “heroes”
Being critical when criticisms is deserved, regardless of what side of the political spectrum it is directed towards, is what a sane rational mind does,
worshiping trump as some sort of saviour or second coming, is nothing short of delusional.
You think he “has far more hope of fixing up the place” – well… we all live in hope. but if recent events are part of the plan.. then its a bloddy stupid plan. 🙂
“Hence, you are far better off with the local conservative guy than the global socialist.”
ahhh yes… G W Bush and his global war of terror 20 years ago and still going – such fun!
Yeah the Bush gang is really in different territory, whether you call it ultra-right, mafia, fascist, neo-nazi, they are amazingly evil, they are not “the local conservative guy” but they do pretend to be.
bg – you’re on the right page as far as I am concerned. It seems to me. that some on this site are still giving far too much credence to the lying dying media and those internet sites that have their own ideological axe to grind when it comes to what Trump is actually achieving.
Hence, part of the reasoning for ‘Q’ operation.
That China is involved in the harvesting of human organs from their ready supply of disgruntled citizenry, and involved in other human rights abuses that will make the holocaust pale in comparison, is now so obvious to those who can open their mind to see it.
But many who still champion China avoid even thinking of such a possibility, such is their willful blindness in avoiding even in acknowledging the possibility of such goings on.
History is repeating itself here. The Allies were warned of Hitler’s Death Camps but chose to ignore all the evidence, until the evidence became too overwhelming to ignore it any longer.
Awakening the many to the current reality is, unfortunately, a very slow process.
They don’t realise that ALL their media is OWNED !!! Remember Gina Reinhart told everyone they were only worth $2 an hour (global market rate) and tried to buy into Fairfax but even she was not big and fat enough to crack it.
These people are power addicted, truth goes straight under the bus. Everything is spin or “reinterpreted” you can see clearly with the Trump coverage, they put any sort of blooper or brain fart on high rotation, but for all the good stuff, they get the presstitute to come out and “reinterpret” it while standing on Trump’s front lawn. All these people just absorb it like, “it’s on TV so it must be true”.
Trump tells people again and again, it’s all fake news, but they can’t understand the words !!! They are so brainwashed they can’t understand simple concepts which they already know to be true !!! They can’t put such a simple concept into their practical thinking, they can’t analyse, they are totally mind controlled.
Agreed bg and Nemesis.
TV,
Who do you nominate, if not Trump?
Considering that he is not on board with all the issues.
Who do you claim is on board with all the issues’?
“Who do you nominate, if not Trump?”
They had their chance!
OMG, OMG, my price tag is showing!
Dinkum , I remember watching the news on TV covering a Shield match where streakers ran on the field ( some good sorts too ), & Ian Chappell who happened to be at the crease at the time , pointed the handle part of his bat at the nether-regions of one of the approaching buxom wenches as if to inser … ohhhh never mind .
That’s one for the locker rooms .
‘ me ‘ , it’s good that you brought up that bit of advice about American’s stabbing us in the back if we let our guard down .
Words to live by – ( you’re excepted Mary ) .
‘ bg ‘ , you may be right about Trump being better than many from the left that you specified (excepting for Hitler – for all his faults , Trump isn’t fit to scrape the gum deposited on the soles of Hitler’s shoes) , but we’re talking fractions of a degree better.
Ned , to answer your question , there’s no once-in-a-generation politician that can lift America out of the abyss.
That once-in-a-century politician called Ron Paul ( the only politician that I’ve ever encountered that had realistic & workable policies to tackle ALL the issues ), came & went – the victim of Zio-cabal chicanery that robbed him of the Presidency in 2012 .
Certainly Sen. Rand Paul & Congressman Thomas Massie are much better than anything on the scene .
The important thing though , even with Ron Paul too old to make a come back & indeed long after he’s gone , his BLUEPRINT for economic & foreign policy salvation is available for all to see.
All we need is someone with the courage to implement it – of either political party .
The rest of Congress ( with the exception of Tulsi / Ilhan Omar on foreign policy matters ) , are next to worthless .
On the world stage , Putin of Russia is far & away the outstanding statesman of the present generation.
If we had anyone of even half his calibre , we’d be blessed indeed.
Imran Khan of Pakistan ( a confirmed 9/11 Truther I’m told by my sources), is a man of integrity & no fool either – Pakistan was front & centre in signing up for China’s Belt & Road .
That’s about it . There are no hopeful signs on the immediate horizon, other than a complete & utter destruction of the U.S economy / USD which will limit the capacity of the U.S to fund its military misadventures & fight wars on behalf of Israel.
This is my sincere hope .
for the people of Minnesota…
Fair, how the hell did you know that this song is about Minnisota?
@ 18 seconds in Mary, Bob dedicates the song to them
Truth – you like to measure the man by his contrition – so what has Imran Khan been contrite about lately?
Maybe you could ask his wives, past and present, what Imran Khan is all about, you know, like get the good oil from the horse’s mouth kind of thingy.
Pakistan and China against India eh? Who would have thought of that possibility? Certainly not you.
I cannot get into a debate regarding China, I have seen just how far they would go for total control. If that is okay with some, then that is three quarters of the problem. Unfortunately, I have lived under a communist backed regime and it is a horror story on its own. Their complete rise to power was given to them by USA, the Americans gave them the last boost to complete, (almost) their mission. I hope the American government have the strength left to stop them going any further. Their human rights policies and lack of respect to the resources on the planet, just taking what they want, for little in return, no investments to alleviate poverty, only adding to it, makes me sick. Of course, money as usual is what it is all about and human life is collateral damage. They crept in quietly, with stealth, and now if countries do not push back, well lets just say, I am glad I am in my last third of my life. I have seen enough.
alexia – thank you for taking the time to write about your concerns. I hope those who side with totalitarianism, as in Communist Governments, get to read your very valid concerns.
History made to be forgotten, is history that will repeat itself, over and over again.
Thanks also for sharing.
As impoverishment is synonymous with communism the most common pro-CCP argument beggars belief
Thank you Nemsis. Phone tapping, being followed, computer hacking, living in constant fear was a very real part of my life and no freedom of speech. Yes, a totalitarian existence. I was lucky they gave me three hours to leave the country, otherwise I would have been locked in prison and left to rot. Under such regimes you thank God, you had corrupt officials on your side. I managed to load a small car with my two small children and fled. I see the take over happening right under our noses no matter which country it is. We have the UN to thank for this. I am happy that Mr Trump is cutting off funding the UN and the UN WHO. I am glad he has stopped Heuwei 5G and is insisting other countries do the same. Because if he does not rollout USA 5G before China by the 28th June, they will creep in the back door. The takeover of America will then be complete. People just do not realise this. Great thread, and lovely chatting, thank you.
alexia – you’re more than welcome – and don’t forget to visit.
I have heard so many stories like yours, but it still chills me to the bone.
TRACE contacting, article about “airlines” requesting it. Oh, come on.
https://www.activistpost.com/2020/05/your-immunity-passport-future-begins-to-materialize-as-airlines-call-for-digital-id-tracking-systems.html
Fair,
Yes, because we had protectionist Tarrifs and everything was made here.
Imran Khan used to prise up the seam of a cricket ball with his grubby finger nails to make it swing. Kevin Woodman
By George, i don’t get it.
Wow
TV your tag is a warning, anyone with such a nomdeplume is aspirational at best but in your case, your regular, obsessive rants against ZIonists and your worship of Hitler (expressed above) puts you in a weird place. Hitler was a popularist and started off OK, got heavily into propaganda and mind control after the Berlin Olympics, ended up with a Colonel Sanders style processing plant for people. You shouldn’t conflate Rotschild and Zionists with every Jew, you’ll just make them more paranoid. From the Jew perspective, they have survived multiple extermination attempts, by Egypt, Kurdistan, Germany, probably more since they were homeless since Egypt, if they weren’t smart they wouldn’t have survived so they are a product of their history.
As for Rotschild and all the other media and politician owning manipulators, it’s up to every individual to educate themselves about how to avoid being ripped off and brainwashed. We are copping it from all sides, since Lee Harvey Oswald got framed up, since the probably mind-controlled John Hinckley got Reagan out of the way to begin the Bush era (only terminated by Trump), the brainwashing and mind control has been going gangbusters (CCP was watching).
Your hero Hitler reportedly said “Give me ten years and you won’t recognise Germany” but you demand that Trump shuts down Zion in his first term. The US economy is hardwired into the Zionist banks, how do you think this can be undone in one term when Trump is not even a real Republican, he is basically like an independent, and he doesn’t even control the congress. If you want a split from the banks your only chance I can see is Trump but personally I think you should totally give up on politics and maybe go and get counselling or do something completely different with yourself.
bg – LOL! I think you’ve got his measure! Well put!
bg Well said!
nope
An alert camera man and his powerful lens picked him up mutilating the ball in this illegal manner. It nearly made Richie Benaud. who was doing the commentary at the time , cry. Just wasn’t cricket. Kevin Woodman
Kevin – although I was an avid sports participator, I have never been a sports fan. But, even I, as a casual observer, could see, that what used to be a gentleman’s game of Cricket has now been turned into a win at all costs game between various cultures that were never meant to mix well.
Richie Benaud? described by fiona barnett on p.278 ff.of also the 2nd ed.of Eyes Wide Open as a Luciferian engaging in child sacrifice at Bathurst on 6 october 1985.
dont know what to make of this, as it is uncorroborated, so as with her astral projection story one has to take it on trust,
barnett will put up with not the least questioning, she says on p.5 that anyone attacking her book, which for her will mean asking for further evidence of what she writes, has a “vested interest in lucrative international child trafficking coordinated by the cia. ”
this insinuates that any and all questioners of anything she has ever said or will say in future are earning money off pedophilia.
Alexia , thanks for your thoughtful comments .
But I take issue with the following comment of yours (referencing China, I assume ) :
” no investments to alleviate poverty, only adding to it, makes me sick ” .
The fact is , there is NO precedent in human history ( by a loooong margin ), where so many people have been lifted out of poverty AND in such a short time frame ( a few decades ) , as has occurred in China .
Yes, it hasn’t been without side effects – environmental issues etc.
AND , with the Belt & Road Initiative (BRI) China is right now making substantive poverty alleviation strides in dozens of third world countries – which had been for the last two centuries looted & pillaged by the Anglo-Americans .
Meanwhile , America is , at this very moment burning,
Why do you think that is Alexia ? It’s not just about the death of George Floyd.
Americans are HURTING . Check out this article to see why :
https://www.forbes.com/sites/maggiemcgrath/2016/01/06/63-of-americans-dont-have-enough-savings-to-cover-a-500-emergency/#44242c294e0d
Bottom Line : By ANY objective measure , China has lifted out of poverty (& continues doing so) , HUGE numbers of people both within its own country & those countries that have negotiated trade arrangements with it.
Meanwhile , the U.S is impoverishing its own at a cataclysmic rate.
Don’t interpret this as evidence that I’m a left leaning Marxist advocating communism – I’m not.
I’m a free market capitalist to the core.
But , what is happening in America is not capitalism .
China is far more capitalist than the U.S .
America , particularly under Trump , has descended into a big government , big spending welfare/warfare subsidising police & surveillance state Socialist hell-hole .
Until you have walked in my shoes, I respectfully ask you not to counter my statement with drivel. Communist China only enriches itself. I know where I come from and have experienced the pain and horror. As has my whole family. Perhaps look further than your pocket?
PS America is doing just fine as far as I can see. Trump knows what he is doing. You will see. How can he be blamed for a death of a black man? He wasnt even there. Yes the police officer must feel the full might of the law, but do you agree that the people must be allowed to destroy their country? Paid terrorists? Two wrongs dont make a right. Why do you think this matters so much? One black guy is killed but what about the thousands of whites being killed in SA?? What about the thousands of black people being killed in SA?? By their own people too. Now you are going to tell me I am taking rubbish..go on.
Hey Kevin Woodman , no disagreements from me.
Imran Khan did like to work on prising that seam of the ball .
Good on him though – it was his way at hitting back at the British Imperialists that had colonised & exploited his countrymen for centuries .
Mind you, no matter what Imran Khan did to that ball , he could never make it do a ‘ Waqar Younis ‘ :
Well done James.
Story could not let be left for the wicket keeper, therefore, you must be on seam.
ANU meet Taiwan, o you know each other well. Silicon Road, Silk Road , same, same.
I like the pickup on Chinese Diaspora running hard through the, lol, “Commonwealth”.
‘ bg ‘ , I forgive you for your Hitler comments , in light of the fact that you evidently have not objectively studied WW II history.
Yes, all sides committed war crimes & Hitler is not exempt of the blame.
But, anyone who’s really looked into it will know that the Allied side committed by far the greater atrocities ( eg: indiscriminate incendiary bombing of civilians in major cities etc ) .
They will know that , as evidenced by the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) , which kept meticulous records of all incoming & outgoings of inmates (incl. deaths) at concentration camps in German occupied Europe , that under 300,000 Jews died in ALL the camps from ALL causes.
Some died of old age , some from cancer & other terminal illnesses. The majority died from typhus & malnutrition in the final months of the war as the German transport system was strafed & bombed to such an extent that it completely broke down & food supplies were in short supply to German civilians who themselves were starving in the latter stages of the war.
You will learn that there is NO PROOF of any gas chambers having existed at ANY so called extermination camp (the ‘ gas chamber ‘ that’s shown to tourists at Auschwitz was built by the Polish government in 1947 – this they have publicly admitted to , so no speculation there ).
There is NO PROOF whatsoever of a systematic organised plan to exterminate Jews or anyone else in the 3rd Reich.
This is fact.
So, as bad as Hitler was , relative to the Allied war leaders ( esp. Winston Churchill ) & many modern day U.S Presidents , in a relative sense at least , he was far less evil .
If that’s true, why did Hitler start all the wars, in Czech, Poland, Afrika, all over the place.
Why did the Italians wake up and get the hell out.
He went up and bombed Norway because it was strategic.
He shot off flying bombs galore to England.
I don’t know what he did to the Russians but lots died we hear, I remember something about siege of Leningrad or whatever it was. He wanted Ukraine for access to the oil I guess.
I don’t dispute the truth is usually somewhere in the middle but there are lots of good photos showing the piles of dead people and also the brainwashed at the rallies and Berlin Olympics.
Your Jew hating seems to have become an obsession, but you are light on detail about the banks through which they exert influence.
According to the Jews, the muslims in Palestine are not allowed to sell property to Jews so when they do the muslims have to pretend they were evicted. There are so many different stories everywhere I think it would be unwise to swallow them hook line sinker like you do.
Anyway you should seek your own treatment, I’m not much good on therapy, maybe find some Jewish pyschotherapist to work on your mania.
btw there’s nothing to forgive, but you can thank me for the personal attention.
“the truth is usually somewhere in the middle” – Whoa! watch out for that one. It is called the ‘Liar’s Bargain’.
One person tells the truth, the other lies – a confused person takes the position that the truth must be somewhere in the middle. – The liar ALWAYS wins, he may not get everything, but he gets more than he should.
The best evidence I found on the ‘Holocaust’ was the transcripts and tendered evidence at the Zundle trials in Canada back in the 1980s. Alleged ‘survivors’ of the ‘death camps’ were subject to cross-examination and ALL were shown to be frauds. There were no ‘gas chambers’, etc.
After the trials, the Russians figured the truth was out, so they released the captured records from Auschwitz. I forget the exact figures, but around 56,000 Jews died of typhus, 2,600 Jews died of old age, industrial accidents, etc. and 117 Jews were intentionally executed, mostly for camp infractions.
Terry – those you mention as being caught out on their lies in the Zundle trials. were they attempting to rort the compensation payments then on offer? If that is the case then that puts them into the same category with the same kind of folk who attempt to rort motor vehicle collisions, and the once big compensation payouts, with their sore necks or backs or both – whatever.
All slave laborers were tattooed with a serial number on the right arm – so the fraud at that trial may have been detected early?
Anyway, and if deliberate fraud is the case, then I don’t know how you would include that kind of fraudulent person with which to undermine a well recorded historical event.
Is that what you really think? And please correct me If I am wrong, because that is the impression you give me, in your comment
Himmler ordered all the Gas Chambers blown up towards the end of 1944, to cover up evidence, but some survived intact, so again, I don’t know how you could claim – there were no gas chambers etc, – if that is your claim?
The Soviets murdered 42,000 Polish politicians, teachers, priests, many of the elite of Polish society in a matter of a few weeks. Auschwitz was in operation for over four years, and Auschwitz was just one of six German extermination camps in German occupied Poland. Each extermination camp had up to 90 sub-camps, in some locations.
Evidence of the Holocaust was still being gathered well into the decade of 1970,
mainly due to the huge number of forced labor/death camps in all German controlled territory, and the millions that the Nazis either worked to death, or simply murdered, when their labor was no longer considered useful.
From 1942 the main camp known as Auschwitz was used primarily as an extermination camp – those who de-trained from the crowded cattle cars were sorted as, fit for work, unfit for work. Those unfit for work went to their immediate deaths, and those fit for work were employed to keep the machine functioning.
There is so much accumulated evidence for what occurred in that time that I just cannot comprehend how anyone can simply deny it occurred as is recorded.
There is a very valid purpose behind the slogan (Never Forget the Holocaust) a warning that has been under constant attack from those who would wish to rewrite history, a warning that has become mocked and ridiculed while the Chinese are now involved in doing exactly the same kind of thing.
I was going to suggest you look at this website –
https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/
However, the censorship on the ‘net has removed it.
Did you know there was a nursery at Auschwitz? That’s right, they were making babies in the camp. (lots of pictures of people/nurses holding new borns) The medial records indicated over 3,000 live births took place – pretty good for a ‘death camp’.
Terry – thanks. There is another site you can visit on the internet – The History Channel, just type in Auschwitz Nursery.
However, there’s a lot more to that horror story than what you have put in your comment.
Truth stated – ‘You will learn that there is NO PROOF of any gas chambers existed at ANY so called extermination camp…….’
Are you so bereft of historical fact as recorded via Affidavit (sworn statement) by eye witnesses (victim and persecutor) documentary evidence ( camp records of orders, executions etc) photographic and film archive evidence (SS media units) United States, British, Canadian, Polish, Soviet, French military film records taken during the liberation of those non Gas Chamber equipped extermination camps that you choose to believe did not exist, in May 1945, and when most of those extermination camps were liberated, and was accumulated evidence that got many Nazis hanged at the Nuremberg Trials?
So, all that recorded evidence was faked – is that what you are suggesting?
FYI, Birkenau was using a gas operated crematorium for prisoner disposal in mid 1941. It was from that ‘successful operation’ that the gas chambers were then built in other camps.
But, you not only reject all the evidence for the use of gas chambers, you also fail to acknowledge that your unfounded assertions denigrate the very people who were the victims and the liberators of those camps.
And you count only 300,000 victims while the Nazis themselves were back slapping each other the millions they recorded murdered? Again, it’s all documented and all you have to do is read it, or see it – but instead, you choose to believe what others have come to denounce while all the evidence will always shout people like you down!
Your willingness to believe against what all the accumulated evidence reinforces, is unbelievably stupid.
I’m with you Eddy. It was our treasonous politicians that threw in the towel and let our real industries go, so that we could become the financial centre of the Pacific. As if other countries would allow a small upstart nation like ours to climb to such a position. Being the financial centre of the Pacific, look t us now, stoney broke as the saying goes. Now with our Federal politicians falling in line with the biggest scam since World War II, (coronavirus) we will be even broker. (No such word, I know.)
John Curtin and Ben Chifley must be turning over in their graves, as they pull their hair out.
‘ bg ‘ , judging from the remarks you made , your knowledge of WW II is pretty basic at best.
I suggest you read Churchill’s War ( Vol. I & II ) as this will increase your knowledge base 100 fold .
Those that have a grasp of the fundamentals of WW II will know that the issues around WW I were never resolved & WW II was just the final resolution to the Great War .
They will know that Germany was subjected to unprecedentedly punishing & unjust terms at the Treaty of Versailles & to crushing war reparation repayments.
They will know that , even after the Nov 11 Armistice was signed to end WW I , that the food blockade of Germany continued for another year & that tens of thousands of German civilians ( at a minimum ) were starved to death for no purpose – even though the terms of the Armistice stated specifically that the blockade would be lifted immediately .
Just goes to show, you can never trust the Anglo-Zionists to keep their word.
In relation to ‘ starting war ‘ against Czechoslovakia , you’re obviously not aware of the 3 million or so ethnic Sudeten Germans that were within the boundaries of Czech & many were being mistreated & murdered before Hitler rescued them.
These Germans should never have been within Czech territorial boundaries – this new country was created by confiscating lands that has been Germanic for millenia.
Similiarly , Germany never had any intention of initiating war in any part of Africa. But, because of Mussolini’s thirst for territorial expansion in the region , when the Italians came unstuck in fighting the British & were on the verge of being routed , thus precipitating a political crisis for his Italian ally , Hitler was forced to send German troops there to salvage the situation.
As for your accusation of my ‘ Jew hating ‘ , those that have followed my comments will be well aware of the numerous accolades I’ve paid to all manner of Jews that I rely on as honest sources for my information.
Something that is very personal to me is 9/11 Truth & there are so many honourable Jewish people involved in resolving that matter & exposing this Mossad conducted False Flag that I’m eternally grateful to – not least of which was the late , great Lynn Margulis ( who, it is speculated , paid the ultimate price for exposing the truth about 9/11 ) .
I’ve made it perfectly clear that I have no animosity to the Jewish diaspora, wherever they reside,.
It is only that small sliver of rabid , genocidal Zionists ( not even the majority of Zionists) , that I take issue with.
And of course, not all Zionists are Jews. I have particular contempt for those brain-washed Christian evangelical Zionists .
I suspect your attempt to smear me with the racist card, is sour grapes for the countless times I’ve exposed your Messiah Trump to be a Zionist sock puppet.
That’s what you’ve resorted to ‘ bg ‘ .
Because you can’t win an argument with the facts , & you’re smarting from repeated eviscerations of your feeble arguments , you have to resort to calling someone a racist .
A sad reflection on your character – or lack thereof .
Tragic
You are saying Czech was “Germanic” for millennia but the German states only federated under Bismark about 1880 whatever !!! Charlemagne’s empire about 1000 years before was nothing like the same shape, taking in parts of France and whatever. Poland has changed shape constantly, almost disappeared a few hundred years ago.
Sure the Germans took a beating for cutting in on the British Empires oil interests.
I know all that stuff you are saying, but your perspective is blinkered and you’re obsessive.
That’s why you need to get out a bit more.
Churchill’s War ( Vol. I & II ) , for those not familiar with it , written by the greatest WW II historian that ever drew breath – none other than David Irving.
Isn’t it amazing, two of our bigger trading partners since World War II, our allies in that conflict have ever since, been classified as our enemy. Those countries were the USSR, now Russia and China. It was USSR, not US that won the war for the Allies. If Hitler had not been so worried about communism he would have defeated Britain early in the conflict. And contrary to popular belief US did not save Australia from Japanese invasion.
I am not taking sides over who were the baddies or goodies, I am just pointing out that politicians chop and change alliances on the change of the seasons. They go with who they can make the most personal or political gain from.
Yeah there is so much spin and disinformation your best course is always “follow the money” or in Latin “cui bono”, there is nothing else so illuminating. Of course there are lots of nutters and political chameleons along the way.
‘ bg ‘ , this is a long article to be sure, but it’ll save you having to read a whole book :
https://russia-insider.com/en/history/was-hitlers-invasion-russia-defensive-foil-attack-stalin/ri23681
It’s an article written by one of my better sources , the brilliant Jewish Ron Unz & it explains that Germany invaded the Soviet Union because it had intelligence suggesting that if it didn’t , the Soviet Union was poised to soon attack .
And, as the saying goes , the best form of defence is attack.
So by attacking first, the Germans could seize the initiative.
Of course, you & most people ( myself included for much of my misspent youth ), never knew that aspect of it.
That’s because the Zio-influenced history curriculum in all western public schools never taught us the facts , the Zio-owned major publishing houses & Zio-controlled entirety of the western media never mentions these things.
That’s a narrative that they don’t want the dumb goyim to know .
Because it doesn’t fit in with the Hitler bad , Hitler responsible for EVERYTHING ( incl. all coronaviruses , premature baldness & erectile dysfunction ) narrative .
‘ bg ‘ , you may not be a history buff & may not have a particular fascination for WW II but I urge you to put any petty animosites aside that you have towards me & read this article above & then David Irving’s books because, the world we live in today is inexorably linked to WW II & the lies & fabrications that have been spun around it .
I don’t have any animosity for you, just a few observations and a diagnosis
Mal , I cannot find fault with any of your remarks above ( which is pretty much par for the course for all of your output ) .
In relation to your comment that reads : ” And contrary to popular belief US did not save Australia from Japanese invasion ” , there’s more to the story.
The great Libertarian Harry Browne used to say (I’m paraphrasing) ;
” Don’t read too much into it when the government benevolently comes around with a crutch when you have a broken leg.
That’s because it was the government who broke your leg in the first place ” .
Similarly , people are quick to heap praise on the U.S for ‘ saving Australia ‘ from Japanese invasion in WW II ( eg: Battle of Coral Sea etc).
But, it was SOLELY because of deliberate U.S provocations , culminating in the U.S shutting off the oil supplies to Japan which at that time were monopolised by the Anglo-American-Zionist empire , that the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbour & went about the military expansion into Sth-east Asia to secure vitally needed oil from the Dutch East Indies ( the only major source of oil within Japan’s potential sphere of influence ).
To the extent that Japan knew that Australia would serve as a base for the Anglo-Zionist imperialists , the Japanese ONLY considered invasion of Australia as a means of depriving the Anglo imperialists of a base from which to launch offensive actions.
So, to put it simply , if the U.S had not cut off Japan’s oil supplies , ( a move which FDR knew FOR CERTAIN would force Japan to strike out against the U.S & deliver him that war he lusted for ) , if this had not happened there would not have been a Pacific war that endangered Australia & we could have merrily kept trading with our Japanese friends & supplying them all the ‘ pig iron ‘ they needed .
ie: U.S purposely starts a war with Japan , knowing that it will endanger Australia as it is a strategic asset.
Then the U.S comes to our ‘aid ‘ & says : ‘ Don’t worry , Uncle Sam is here to rescue you from those slanty-eyed vermin ‘ .
What a croc .
More trying to defend the indefensible from Nemesis regarding the ‘Holo-hoax ‘ .
Yes , many hundreds of thousands of Jews died , not in gas chambers (because there has NEVER been any documented proof , video footage , or photos of a gas chamber), but to the extent that they people were in German custody in the first place , having been uprooted from their homes , then of course the Germans were responsible for their welfare & this is a war crime.
The signed affidavits & so called witness statements from a succession of liars & unreliable sources are worthless .
Yes, we’ve all seen those videos of emaciated corpses being pushed along by bulldozers but what most people don’t know is that, after the fall of Communism in eastern Europe & the release of the meticulous German record keeping at Auschwitz-Birkenau , it was revealed that MORE CATHOLICS DIED at Auschwitz than did Jews.
More importantly, there have been hundreds of autopsies done on the dead found at these camps & NOT ONE was found to be death from gassing of any kind .
ALL of them were either due to typhus or malnutrition ( the food logistical supply chain had broken down in the final months of the war ), or from natural causes.
Of course Nemesis will never tell you that .
I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt – as he may genuinely not know.
Let’s face it , Gumshoe readers have been reading his comments for some time & can see he knows precious little about anything.
Nemesis , the jack of no trades & master of sweet F.A .
Nemesis , a lot of GS readers are wondering about you, wondering what sort of a cop you were.
Wondering what sort of a mindset would want to become a cop in the first place.
Jimmy Dore goes in to bat for cops ( well ….. sort of ) :
Nemesis , I bet you’re one of those cops like the one at the end of the video , dressed in black , getting up to mischief .
After all, you don’t have a conscience .
Yes, yes that’s the sort of thing I imagine you would’ve done during your less-than-illustrious career.
Truth – you’re at it again! As Sun Tzu states, or in similar wording, ‘to win a battle, you must first get to know your enemy’.
Now, and as I have told you previously, I will not be giving any more information concerning myself as I believe you already have enough ‘infor’ about me from all the comments I have directed your way.
If you can’t form an opinion from what I write on, then all can suggest to you is that you really have no insightful ability to grasp the individual’s leanings from the words that he issues.
And, while you keep nudging me for more personal info about myself, I have yet to receive anything at all from your hand concerning what you badger me for.
Then again, I had you sussed very early in this game, so I really require nothing from you!
Nemesis wrote : ” Himmler ordered all the Gas Chambers blown up towards the end of 1944, to cover up evidence ” .
Yet another piece of nonsense that he’s pulled out of his rectum.
Put your money where your mouth is Mr Fiction-Peddler , SHOW me documented proof of this order & I’ll donate $ 500 to Gumshoe.
Of course , if you’re wrong , you must fork out the $ 500.
( Documented proof does not equal another sworn statement by one of that procession of liars or a Zio-fiction novel ).
‘ bg ‘ , in relation to this statement of yours : ” You are saying Czech was “Germanic” for millennia but the German states only federated under Bismark about 1880 ” ,
What I am saying is that the western part of Czechoslovakia ( the Sudetenland ) was part of pre-WW I Germany – inhabited by German people , that were transferred to this artificially constructed country.
And, the word German came from the region that the Romans called ‘Germania’ .
As for Bismarck federating Germany in 1870 , that is neither here nor there.
The ‘ United States ‘ was federated in 1787 or thereabouts. Before that there were 13 states , Virginia , Massachussetts , N.Y …. etc going about their business independently.
All were English speakers to be sure ( nearly all – as quite a few were descendants of the Dutch living in that city that was previously called New Amsterdam ) , so fair to say that most were of Anglo stock.
Similarly , whether you were Hessian , Bavarian or Prussian prior to the Bismarck episode , all the separate states were still German speakers & of German stock – notwithstanding minor differences in dialect etc.
Nemesis mentions the ‘ eyewitness ‘ documentary evidence of people who somehow escaped the gas chamber at the last second.
Like …. this woman who was ‘ pushed backwards ‘ until somehow she wasn’t in the chamber :
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Rqkh3OIIqMMd/
Seeing as there were gassings every hour on the hour (allegedly) , it’s quite amazing this woman escaped the next hourly gassing, then the one after.
Then, managed to escape the next 3000 gassings over the remainder of the war.
We also have this fraud :
https://www.bitchute.com/video/5Bhs5O4h1DHQ/
This guy says he saw 3 storeys high of corpses , or was it 2 storeys ?
Actually, he’s not sure himself.
Further proof that Auschwitz-Birkenau was a work camp & no mass extermination of any kind took place :
https://www.bitchute.com/video/IEysLRI9hKSs/
Terry , in relation to the nursery at Auschwitz & the 3000 live births that happened there , as usual you’re on top of the facts.
Of course, the msm muzzles facts like these & Nemesis ( & his ilk ) will NEVER attempt to explain how this could’ve happened in a ‘ death camp’.
I mean , why not abort said baby before its born ( so that the woman in question can continue working in the massive Auschwitz-Birkenau industrial complex to produce war related items for the 3rd Reich – rather than time wasted nursing a child ? ).
OR , assuming this woman is a useless eater with no marketable skill set, why not send her straight to the ‘ gas chambers ‘ from the get go ?
Of course, readers with even a smidgen of critical thinking capability know the answer to that question.
There NEVER was a mass extermination programme of ANY kind utilised by the Germans in WW II (let alone any gas chambers) .
For those readers still living under the illusion , this video will set your straight with actual war time photos of what happened in the death camps ( start at 3.15 point of the video ) :
https://www.bitchute.com/video/l8WEgtdO2dWq/
TV, a good selection of photos from the ‘death camps’ – LOL!
Here’s a quip I remember – “The World Jewish Congress estimated the total of Jews in occupied Europe under Nazi control was 2.6 million Jews. After the war, 4.3 million Jews applied for reparations, tragically, the remaining 6 million died.”
The actual number of Jews that died during WWII from ALL reasons (war, famine, disease, execution) is estimated at 750,000. It could be a bit higher, but it sure as Hell isn’t 6 million.
Terry , I defer to your more expansive knowledge on the matter .
The numbers you quoted look about right . It would take a pretty brave man or woman to challenge anything you’ve said over the years .
Nobody knows the exact number of Jews that were killed in Europe. There was also a lot of emigration that was going on at the same time. I’ve seen 1.2 million as the high figure, but if people just disappear it is difficult to confidently put them into a category. Definitely not anything like 6 million.