[Editor’s Note: This article is a reaction by Joe Meadors, a survivor of the USS Liberty, for being called out as a conspiracy theorist. His open letter was sourced from Activistpost which was introduced by Chris Menahan. I reprint Joe’s letter below.]
Introduction by Chris Menahan
A survivor of Israel’s attack on the USS Liberty penned an open letter slamming Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk for “insult[ing]” survivors of the June 8, 1967 attack as “conspiracy theorists” during a Q&A session last week.
The USS Liberty Veterans Association shared USS Liberty survivor Joe Meadors’ letter Tuesday on Twitter — on the the USS Liberty Veterans Association Blog:
Turning Point USA Founder Charlie Kirk Insults USS Liberty Survivors. His Audience Agrees.
I don’t know anything about Charlie Kirk or Turning Point USA other than what I read on the internet. He founded a group that claims to advocate policies associated with the conservative side of the political spectrum.
I hope others in his organization or who share his political dogma don’t share his public disdain for American servicemen whose only crime is to be victims of Israeli War Crimes.
Are we overreaching to hope the people in his circle will publicly disavow Mr. Kirk’s position? From the reaction of his audience, we definitely are. Like us, he readily takes advantage of the rights guaranteed in the First Amendment to the Constitution.
Unlike us, he doesn’t accept responsibility for what he says.
Nor does he accept responsibility for the damage done to those who are affected by his words.
THE OPEN LETTER
Mr. Charlie Kirk, Founder
Turning Point USA
Dear Mr. Kirk:
In the video above you condemned as “Conspiracy Theorists” the officers and crew of the USS Liberty (AGTR-5) who survived the June 8, 1967, Israeli attack on our ship.
Since the term is only used as a pejorative, since nothing could be further from the truth, and since your use of the term is a direct insult to the sacrifice of 34 of our shipmates, the effort of those of us who survived the attack and the suffering of the families of our fallen shipmates, I am compelled to write.
Mr. Kirk, over 52 years ago our “best friend and only ally in the Middle East” attacked us without warning and without provocation while we were steaming in international waters on a lawful mission for the United States.
Over 52 years ago military elements belonging to our “best friend and only ally in the Middle East” jammed our radios on both US Navy tactical and international maritime distress frequencies.
Over 52 years ago unmarked aircraft belonging to our “best friend and only ally in the Middle East” attacked us without warning.
Over 52 years fighter aircraft from our “best friend and only ally in the Middle East” reported the correct nationality of the USS Liberty to their headquarters only to be told to begin their attack.
Over 52 years ago The White House ordered the Sixth Fleet to abandon us while we were still under attack by our “best friend and only ally in the Middle East” and calling for help.
Over 52 years ago attacking elements of our “best friend and only ally in the Middle East” departed the scene immediately after they ceased hostilities only to return 90 minutes later in an obvious attempt to claim they were coming to our help to drive off the forces attacking our ship.
Over 52 years ago the Commander in Chief, US Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR) ADM John S. McCain, Jr., signed a qualified endorsement to a US Navy Court of Inquiry Report that his Legal Advisor, Capt. Merlin Staring, recommend he not sign since it was replete with many gross errors.
Over 52 years ago the attack on the USS Liberty became the only attack on a US Navy ship since the end of World War II NOT to be the subject of a US government investigation. A mark that stands today despite the attacks on the USS Pueblo, USS Stark, and USS Cole all of which have been investigated by the US government. Likewise, the USS Vincennes incident and the bombing of the US Marine Barracks in Beirut have been investigated by the US government. Not so the attack on the USS Liberty.
For over 52 years USS Liberty survivors, our families and the families of our fallen shipmates have been waiting for the announcement that the US government has finally decided to investigate the attack on the USS Liberty.
Instead of being outraged at learning these facts about the attack on our ship as most patriotic Americans are, Mr. Kirk dismisses them as the rantings of a group of “Conspiracy Theorists.”
These are not baseless mutterings of a group of anti-Semitic bigots. Mr. Kirk.
These are proven facts being lived by the victims of Israeli War Crimes that were committed with the tacit approval and active participation of the United States government.
You can read them for yourself.
But you won’t. Said simply, you don’t give a damn about us. You don’t give a damn about the facts of the attack on our ship.
Your concern — and the concern of your audience — is for the forces who attacked us. For those who killed 34 of our shipmates.
34 Americans — like you.
34 Patriotic Americans — unlike you.
You’re in good company, Mr. Kirk. That is the same concern repeatedly expressed by every Member of Congress for over 52 years.
What you will do is stand behind your microphone and insult the sacrifice of 34 Americans who were killed during the attack on the USS Liberty, the suffering of their families, and the effort of the survivors of the USS Liberty attack to ensure that attack is finally investigated by the US government.
We’re open to an apology from you, Mr. Kirk. But only if that apology is followed by a public and ongoing effort from you and your organization to ensure the US government conducts the investigation that has been denied the attack on the USS Liberty for over 52 years.
My email address is joe@ussliberty.com.
We hope you will agree that it was improper for you to single out a military unit for condemnation simply because we were attacked by our “best friend and only ally in the Middle East.”
Respectfully,
Joe Meadors, USS Liberty Survivor
Director of Operations
USS Liberty Veterans Association
P.O. Box 689275
Marietta, GA 30068
https://usslibertyveterans.org
https://usslibertyveterans.blog
Kirk is a paid Zionist shabbos goy, working to co-opt the new American Nationalism for Israel’s benefit. If he was anything more than that he wouldn’t even have a platform, let alone the Presidential ear. America doesn’t have a White Nationalist problem but it does have a Jewish traitor problem.
XLNT and accurate!
I’m going to do an Arlyn. I just posted this on a NZ shooters rights webpage.
This massacre was DEFINITELY NOT a lone gunman shooting. Here’s some information that is available from the banned video.
Three times Tarrant takes off running to shoot people that were not within his line of sight.
The first time he runs out the front of the Mosque, turns and points his rifle at a parked car, apparently recognizes the people, does not shoot but continues to run out to the sidewalk and then shoot at a fleeing person that is down the street.
That parked car is important. License number FQH875, as it leaves during the massacre and then is seen being flagged through a Police roadblock later.
The second time he gets instructions was when he was out at his car getting petrol out of the boot. He drops what he is doing and runs up the alley, turns around the wall and goes to shoot people in the far corner of the compound.
The third time he gets instructions is when he is back in the Mosque, then runs up the hall and out onto the sidewalk to shoot at two women. One of the women escapes.
What is important in this sequence is that the video shows that there is a man dressed all in red standing in the compound watching the massacre. The two women likely ran past that man in red while trying to escape. The surviving woman could confirm that at a Royal Commission.
Who owns that car? What were they doing there?
So why isn’t the Royal Commission asking questions about really happened during the massacre?
Did you include how before black-body armored, clip loaded, rifle toting, gunman Brenton entered the mosque grounds that there was a man and his wife(?) standing next to the entrance gate, looked at Brenton, then turned away and just stood there?
That man dressed in red (11m52) is he the one who appears walking along the sidewalk prior to Brenton pulling into the laneway(5mins in)? The fact that Brenton overshot the lane, and had to reverse a little to drive down that lane, seems to indicate that the man in red was one to look out for.
Yeah, I remember all that, I was just trying to keep it simple for people that weren’t aware of what was going on.
“So why isn’t the Royal Commission asking questions about really happened during the massacre?”
Ahem, Terry, have you ever known a RC to ask what really happened?
Generally, No.
However, if the general populace finds out about those issues, it just might wake them up from their slumber. (unlikely I know)
It’s not my fight in NZ, but I see them doing the same stupid things shooters did in Oz after PA. “We’ll have a protest!” (ooh, that’s scary) – and “we’ll VOTE at the next election!” (ooh, that’s double scary)
I went ‘off topic’ to just try and get the word out. Maybe some Kiwis will read this and send some letters to the editors, or a Muslim in NZ will read it and post it in an Arabic newspaper. There’s suppose to be a ‘protest’ in Auckland, hopefully someone will print up a bunch of flyers with the information. Anyway, it is their fight, if they wimp out it is their problem.
Off-Topic: The president’s lawyer has a lawyer.
Mr Sale, speaking for Rudi Giuliani, says his boss won’t cough up the (Ukraine) documents if subpoena’d.
Just giving my opinion here: if a prez uses state power to obtain a personal favor from a foreign government, that is “not OK.”
Gee, I wouldn’t really have thought anyone needed to say that.
Trump’s lawyer has a point. Shove the subpoena in the bin if it is not from a judicial authority ?
But he would know more than me ……. and poor Pelosi, et. al.
Ned, it does not have to be a judicial authority. Congress can subpoena. The following is from Congressional Research Service:
“A number of obstacles face Congress in any attempt to enforce a subpoena issued against an executive branch official. Although the courts have reaffirmed Congress’s constitutional authority to issue and enforce subpoenas, efforts to punish an executive branch official for non-compliance with a subpoena through criminal contempt will likely prove unavailing in many, if not most, circumstances.
“Where the official refuses to disclose information pursuant to the President’s decision that such information is protected under executive privilege, past practice suggests that the Department of Justice (DOJ) will not pursue a prosecution for criminal contempt.”
Ned, that is pretty funny — that it would have to be the DoJ that takes action.
And don’t forget to view this series from Mary.
https://gumshoenews.com/2019/09/09/the-liberty-ship-part-2-frontlet-615-the-key-to-everything/
https://gumshoenews.com/2019/09/09/the-liberty-ship-part-1-please-stop-blaming-israel/
Oops, my comment went to a article linked by Dee above.
Will not repeat other than to repeat part.
‘November 3 Alpha’. ( it is a call sign for a floating bnb😀)
😈😈😈
Tonight, I may find the old film; ‘Slleepless in Seattle’ to bore me to sleep well.
Faine,
The biggest mistake is that you were conceived, born and adulterated our lying ABC.
Dee refers to Joe Meadors who was a crewmen on the USS Liberty witnessing two hours of Israel murders.
I corresponded with Meadors and he sent me his account of the murders.
Why do some Israeli aplogists lie and continue to suggest that Israel is a ‘friend’.
conspiracy theorists….
theyre everywhere!
Day or so old, but there are reports that Israel has closed all embassies in the world because employees want more schecles. (Sp?-dollars) why the problem.. just get more from the US Congress?
Ned, today’s exchange rate, one Israeli shekel is worth 28 cents USD.
O ye of little faith.
For Our Ned.
Whom wilt thou find to love ignoble thee, Save Me, save only Me?
All which I took from thee I did but take, Not for thy harms, But just that thou might’st seek it in My arms.
All which thy child’s mistake Fancies as lost, I have stored for thee at home:
Rise, clasp My hand, and come!’
Halts by me that footfall:
Is my gloom, after all, Shade of His hand, outstretched caressingly?
Ah, fondest, blindest, weakest, I am He Whom thou seekest!
So the Liberty incident has “war-crime” status whilst the destruction of the Montevideo has never been acknowledged as anything more than a minor tragedy.
Hmmmmmm
The evidence relating to the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty is not in dispute. What is more interesting is that the US government covered those facts up and have refused ever since to hold a proper inquiry and hold those responsible accountable. That raises the obvious question: why? Israel has little strategic value to the US, even as a proxy. The only explanation that makes sense to me is that Israeli political leaders have blackmail material that is sufficient to provide them with a political lever over all these years. The real question to my mind is what is that lever?
Try, interesting videos as a start.
James, you overlook domestic US politics and the money corruption via campaign financing. There is a library by now of books analysing the role played by US Jews in elections of the President, Congress etc.
It has to do with 1 where they tend to live,in urban centres such as NY, Florida, Phil, voting in which alone numerically determines the outcome, Clinton|s despised flyover country does not count, and 2 their very high voter turnout given non compulsory voting. This gives them great electoral weight in any close race especially if a candidate under AIPAC surveillance need only mouth pro Israel slogans to secure financing, cf the eventual fate of Dr Cynthia McKinney.
I believe there is evidence that LBJ was thinking along these lines in 1967.
Compare cf article by Laurie Oakes, how PM Gillard instructed an Aust. abstention on a Palestine vote in UN General Assembly because she had been warned by ALP politicians that Muslim Western Sydney would react against them if she took the usual Israeli line.
As we know, the nickname of the ALP MHR Tony Burke is Tony Burka.
James, I read the entire transcripts of the Zundel trials on ‘Holocaust Denial’. It was an eye opener, so I did some more study, which led me to Douglas Reed’s ‘The Controversy of Zion’.
If anyone has not read it (it is a very LONG, well researched read for those that want to know) I suggest you take some time out of your life to bring yourself up to speed.
Buckle your seat-belts – https://www.controversyofzion.info/Controversybook/reeedcontrov.pdf
hmm link didn’t work for me…Did you have a link to those transcipts too?