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Where Do I Stand on Assange’s Extradition to the Great Republic?

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by Mary W Maxwell, LLB

Parliament passed a motion yesterday, saying Assange should be returned to Oz. The vote was 86 Yes, 42 No.  Amdrew Wilkie, MP was the ringleader. Barnaby Joyce abstained from voting.

Apparently the London Home Secretary will make the decision. Do you recall when the Home Secretary (Jack Straw) decided that Augusto Pinochet need not be sent to Spain, per extradition, as he was too old or infirm to cope?

Human Rights Watch wrote:

“The House of Lords, in its second decision on March 24, 1999, ruled that the only crimes for which General Pinochet could be extradited were torture and conspiracy to torture after December 8, 1988, when the U.N. torture convention took effect in the U.K. Magistrate Bartle specifically ruled, however, that Pinochet’s conduct before 1988—which would include the creation of the secret police and the establishment of Operation Condor targeting Pinochet’s opponents abroad—could be examined by the Spanish courts in proving the existence of a conspiracy which continued after December 1988. This ruling is in line with the language of the House of Lords decision.”

In other words, Pinochet got off, despite a court (House of Lords) saying it was legal to extradite him.

I entitled this article “Where Do I Stand” meaning “What Does My Americanism Think Should Be Done?”

Here at Gumshoe, I have always mocked those who say the US would mistreat him. We have a great system of justice in the Great Republic. Really, it’s flawless — if there weren’t a bunch of criminals (e.g., Merrick Garland) running it.

I suspect that all the lengthy delays in getting Assange to travel across the pond reflect a desire by the Powerful to NOT let him into the US, as his criminal charges would not hold up for a minute here.

The charges are for several counts of espionage and one count of messing with a computer. The original downloading of the classified documents was done by a Privet in the army, named Bradlee Manning, later Chelsea Manning. She was tried and convicted and served 7 years (I think) in jail, but her sentence was then commuted by Obama.

There will be no way for a foreigner, namely Julian Assange, citizen of Australia (born in Townsville!) to be found guilty of espionage.  It would open up the whole subject of extra-territorial jurisdiction. God knows, the US government would not relish that. It would suggest that every country and its dog could bring charges against Americans.

(Help!)

It would also bring Abu Ghraib into the forefront again. You may recall that the late US Sen Diane Feinstein “led” the Senate report on torture, taking 12 years to present the findings, which then got back-burner’d.

Back to Human Rights Watch again

“The conspiracy charge goes to the heart of the case because it alleges that Pinochet used torture as a weapon of intimidation and political persecution. By allowing evidence of conduct that occurred before 1988, Bartle’s ruling clearly permits the Spanish prosecutors to prove that General Pinochet built a state apparatus that relied on torture and that he was fully aware that torture was practiced systematically.”

Wow. Can’t have that!

On the subject of the US, or the cabal, wanting to keep Julian out of sight, recall that the cabal must have been behind the cooked-up sex charges against him in Sweden. Likely the cabal also oversaw the hospitality of the Ecuadorian embassy in London.

Stella Assange claims in the above interview that Mike Pompeo, a member of the Trump Cabinet, was planning to assassinate her husband. This too is quite a reason for the US to wish Julian would go back to Oz, so we don’t have to deal with the Mary Maxwells of this world making a federal case out of Pompeo’s sins.

Please comment on any of this, below, and try not to cover unrelated subjects today. (But if ya hafta, ya hafta.).

You are especially invited to compare the Assange persecution with that of Russell “We-Discontinue” Pridgeon. His persecution lasted 9 years, going on ten.

Onya, Doc.

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  1. Julian faces death for exposing the BS on the War on Terror. Basically persecuted for crimes of the powerful, because he exposed global crimes and corruption to all for free. All media silent, as the journalist of the century suffers behind bars, for no reason.

  2. I’m with Peter Hitchens on this one, quote:

    “I am amazed that it should have fallen to me – a person who has no great love for Mr Assange or his politics – to speak for him. The only time we ever met, in debate, we clashed angrily. But his extradition would be an outrage. “
    https://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2023/08/not-much-time-left-to-save-julian-assange-from-extradition-so-please-act-.html

    Yeah, an outrage that isn’t, in any way, vitiated by the fact that “his politics” made him very vulnerable to such an advent

  3. “I suspect that all the lengthy delays in getting Assange to travel across the pond reflect a desire by the Powerful to NOT let him into the US, as his criminal charges would not hold up for a minute here. “

    Just like the lengthy delay in the Pridgeon case ?
    The fools that rushed into that travesty were obviously just dragging their feet in the hope that all the Accused would cave to some sort of plea bargain – which is also a major issue in the U. S:

    “In any given year, 98% of criminal cases in the federal courts end with a plea bargain — a practice that prizes efficiency over fairness and innocence, according to a new report from the American Bar Association.”
    https://www.npr.org/2023/02/22/1158356619/plea-bargains-criminal-cases-justice

    In other words Peter Hitchens’ summation of said system is spot-on(REF: above “Daily Mail” article

  4. As I have said before I always love the opportunity to Segway with intent -connecting the dots and revealing the Master Plan. Ahh Tavistock Agenda Down Under World Wide Web Matrix. The Truth Will Out listen to Anneke Lucas

    ,442,278 views Jun 14, 2019 #60MinutesAustralia
    She’s the embodiment of evil. A woman whose terrify deeds have destroyed many lives. For years, Anne Hamilton-Byrne ran a bizarre cult known as The Family. But this was no ordinary family. Children stolen at birth, brainwashed, beaten, even given mind altering drugs like LSD. The list of abuses as her isolated retreat outside Melbourne goes on. It was a true house of horrors. Throughout it all Hamilton-Byrne was helped by a group of unquestioning followers, including a sinister group of women known as ‘The Aunties’. To these disciples, she was the reincarnation as Jesus Christ. Her word, gospel. Hamilton-Byrne spent years dodging the truth about what went on inside The Family. But in 2009, for the first time, she spoke to 60 Minutes.

  5. Come on, America, ‘atta nation, pull Julian into our bosom. Don’t listen to those anti-extraditionists. He will be happy in Nueva York. Our Constiution will make mince meat of whichever dumbo DoJ prosecutors laid the charges in the first place.

    Go, James Madison! Go, Craig Murray! Go, Stella and sons!
    Go, Chelsea Manning! Go, Paula Isela (New Hampshire rep for Assange)! Go, Deb Moana (South Austalia)! Go, Gott in Himmel.

    Let’s all throw confetti when JA walks out of the US courtroom a free man.

    And Pompeo walks into Ft Leavenworth in chains.

    (Shouldda thought of that before, Mike….)

  6. “I’m constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud.” Julian Assange.

    Wikileaks will tell you much what the average Netflix thriller will tell you about CIA bad guys, corporate mega-swindles or bombed Afghan weddings. Where it counts, however…

    Be very careful about this person (character?) and those around him. You don’t get to be the darling of the ABC luvvies and half the world’s mainstream viewing public without making a concession or two. And those concessions might be whoppers

    • The Bradley/Chelsea Manning story has always struck me as being implausible from go to woe, e.g. this sort of nonsense:

      “Casey Manning(his older sister) told the court-martial that both their parents were alcoholics, and that their mother drank continually while pregnant with Chelsea. Captain David Moulton, a Navy psychiatrist, told the court that Manning’s facial features showed signs of fetal alcohol syndrome.[31] Casey became Manning’s principal caregiver, waking at night to prepare the baby’s bottle. The court heard that Manning was fed only milk and baby food until the age of two. As an adult she reached 5 ft 2 in (1.57 m) and weighed around 105 pounds (48 kg).[34][35]
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Manning

      I mean,even if said spiel was, of itself, anything more than ill-informed rot( I’ve seen kids who didn’t consume anything but breast milk during their 1st two years of life grow into strapping 6’ 7” adults) it’s very obviously of zero relevance to what purportedly took place

      • Imbuing anything with any sort of mystique would have to be the antithesis of honest reportage

        e. g: “Hidden wife Stella Assange”
        REF: above Andrew Gold promo

        e. g: ‘They had kids together in secret”
        REF: above Andrew Gold promo

        e. g: “the couple conceived two children in secret”
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stella_Assange

        Well hopefully not many of us were conceived in public!

        • I was always supportive of the right for the black hat Assange thesis to exist though I don’t feel a need to believe things one way or another. Unfortunately the level headed debate descended below where it should have been at the time but here is one view:
          https://www.financialsense.com/contributors/william-engdahl/something-stinks-about-wikileaks
          Ending with
          “Of course, the Bush Administration was able to use the 9/11 attacks to launch its War on Terrorism in Afghanistan and then Iraq, a point Assange conveniently omits.
          For his part, General Gul claims that US intelligence orchestrated the Wikileaks on Afghanistan to find a scapegoat, Gul, to blame. Conveniently, as if on cue, British Conservative Prime Minister David Cameron, on a state visit to India, lashed out at the alleged role of Pakistan in supporting Taliban in Afghanistan, conveniently lending further credibility to the Wikileaks story. The real story of Wikileaks has clearly not yet been told”.
          Another pawn on the 4D chessboard waiting to be sacrificed, as is the lot of pawns on chessboards … (?)
          I linked to another site a while ago showing how many attendees had had sudden unexpected deaths after Bilderberg meetings. It’s more rough and tumble than is made out to be.
          So anyway, General Gul claimed to have died of stroke 15 August 2015 (aged 78).
          Separately, I should add that “-ski” is just a little pet name extension MM likes to add onto things from time to time, it’s a throwback to the 70’s or whatever, and I thought the nickname botski was pretty funny actually, it’s not something that should have been taken offence at, leading to further dramas. The inference I take from “Gumshoe” is mainly finding and presenting decent evidence, not a Judge Judy type of show. I would hope that Gumshoes didn’t find anything confronting except the persistent smell of tripe being cooked.

          • What William Engdahl says about Assange’s dismissal of 9/11 conspiricists, quote:

            ‘the idea that 19 barely-trained Arabs armed with box-cutters could divert four US commercial jets and execute the near-impossible strikes on the Twin Towers and Pentagon over a time period of 93 minutes with not one Air Force NORAD military interception, is beyond belief.”

            Actually the belief that Arabs are just dumb-arse peasants with too much money and that NORAD has ever been any more functional than any other form of policing also indicates a portentous disconnect from the real world

            What experience has taught me is that skulduggery in every shape & form is always a good deal more mundane & less sophisticated than what presents at face value

          • English is such a convoluted language, this is almost as bad as the Trump pushing injectables situation

          • Can’t help but wonder why he didn’t simply say something along the lines of:

            “the official explanation for 9/11 obviously leaves many questions begging – unfortunately we’ve not been able to access any written records that provide answers”

            Or simply

            “the issue isn’t relevant to our line of investigation”

            Albeit the plethora of “crazed conspiracy theories” that do nothing but validate what they ostensibly oppose

          • Engdahl really says more about himself than anyone else via his 2010 edict that,quote:

            “Assange is a person who has built a reputation on being anti-establishment”
            – the entire “anti-establishment”/”THEM vs US” cant being a prime giveaway re aspiring to nothing more than swapping out one reprobate system for another

  7. Forgot the ” ” did not want TO to misunderstand
    “She’s the embodiment of evil. A woman whose terrify deeds have destroyed many lives. For years, Anne Hamilton-Byrne ran a bizarre cult known as The Family. But this was no ordinary family. Children stolen at birth, brainwashed, beaten, even given mind altering drugs like LSD. The list of abuses as her isolated retreat outside Melbourne goes on. It was a true house of horrors. Throughout it all Hamilton-Byrne was helped by a group of unquestioning followers, including a sinister group of women known as ‘The Aunties’. To these disciples, she was the reincarnation as Jesus Christ. Her word, gospel. Hamilton-Byrne spent years dodging the truth about what went on inside The Family. But in 2009, for the first time, she spoke to 60 Minutes.”

    Was Anne Evelyn Edwards the patsy–I know the answer to that.

    A bit more
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/48-hours-inside-the-family-cult-australia-anne-hamilton-byrne/
    Check out the brief videos in the article
    “Go behind closed doors of an elusive cult “.
    “The family cult a true believers story”

    And a few lines that expand the picture.

    “By day’s end, news was spreading about Anne Hamilton-Byrne, a yoga teacher turned cult leader who, investigators say, had been collecting children for years. At one time, there were 28 kids in all, ranging in age from toddlers to teens.

    Dave Whitaker’s parents were senior cult members and knew Anne well.

    Dave Whitaker: She was a very charismatic sort of person … she had a huge presence about her.

    As many as 500 adults followed Anne Hamilton-Byrne willingly, but the children had no choice. Some were the offspring of cult members; others were taken from unwed mothers who were strong-armed into giving up their babies by cult doctors and nurses. Now those children are speaking out about their ordeal.

    Sarah Moore: There was a child that was nearly dying from malnutrition and was only three foot tall … and was 12 years old.

    Sarah Moore, who lived in the cult from birth until she was 17 years old, says the children were supervised by cult women who home-schooled them. They were known as Aunties and, Ben Shenton says, some resorted to torture.

    Ben Shenton: You going to be dunked in … a bucket filled with water, and … have your head held under that for a period of time … to the point where you are asphyxiated, you’re close on blacking out.

    When the children became teens, they told police that some of them were forced to take LSD in a ceremony that helped reinforce the cult’s fundamental belief that Anne was the reincarnation of Jesus Christ — raising a master race of children.

    Dave Whitaker: Anne … whispered in my ear, “Who is Jesus?” …and then somehow the thought popped into my head, “you’re Jesus.” … and she goes, “that’s right David, you always knew I was the Lord.”

    But Anne did not embrace the humble life of Christ. She traveled extensively to properties she owned in Kent, England and New York State, sometimes with her children.

    Investigators say the homes were mostly paid for with the millions Anne extracted from her wealthy followers, many of them well-educated, high-earning professionals.

    By the time of the raid in 1987, only seven children — ranging in age from 11 to 18 years old — were living at Anne’s special compound. Of the rest, some were living with their cult parents and others were in boarding schools in England. Anne happened to be overseas on the day of the raid, but her husband Bill was there and so was Leanne. She had run away months earlier but had gone to police and told them her story.

    Leanne Creese: I actually went in with the police when the raid happened because I thought it was best that one of us was with them so that the children realized that it was OK, because it would have been very, very scary for them.

    Leanne Creese: Bill came out of his room and saw me and he said to me, “How could you betray us like this?”

    Incredibly, not a single adult was arrested. Police allowed Bill and the Aunties to leave the compound as the investigation continued. Meanwhile, the suddenly free children were taken to a group home where they found normal life — even a simple meal — bewildering.

    Anouree Treena-Byrne: I think we had breakfast. We had something to eat. …and you know, they said you can eat as much as you want, and, well I said, “My stomach’s only a certain size.” [Laughs]

    Ben Shenton, then 15 years old, was one of the rescued children.

    At the age of 18 months, he had been sent by his grateful mother, a devoted cult member, to live at the children’s compound.

    Ben Shenton: I’m lying in bed at the end of that night, thinking through what had happened through the day. What I’d said, what I hadn’t said, and realizing I no longer have to check what I say. I’m not going to get into trouble if I say something wrong and I think, to me [emotional pause] … that’s probably when I’d realized the prison doors had opened, for good.

    Behind closed doors, the adult members of The Family were shaken by the police raid. Many left, including Bill Hamilton-Byrne, who vanished overseas to join Anne. Some of the devoted continued to assemble weekly at The Family’s special lodge, where they listened to Anne’s audio tape-recorded messages:

    Anne Hamilton-Byrne sermon: I’m looking right at each one of you. You are the initiate. You’re staring into the awakening.

    It was clear more needed to be done and the children were about to get the champions they deserved. Investigative journalist Marie Mohr tracked down senior members of the cult.

    Marie Mohr: “Marie Mohr’s my name Dr. Mackay. I’m wondering if you’ve got any comment to make?

    It was around the same time that police detective Lex de Man came on the scene to investigate the biggest case of his career.

    Lex de Man: Anne Hamilton-Byrne is the most evil person I’ve ever come across … and I’ve come across quite a few evil people in my life.”

    So many evil people got off scot free and they are still operatives it is still being played still being suppressed–ah yes suppression orders.

  8. What types rise to power these days?
    For decades children have been trafficked and used as sex slaves. How many perpetraitors have been punished? These demented perverts torture children for pleasure and rarely get punished. After all, it’s one of many bonuses for being a high ranking member.

  9. Thirty five professors support ASSANGE note at situation update ‘ S U: escape from Ny … stock up groceries…’
    beforeitsnews.com people powered news.
    Mary’s snippets.
    Make of it what you wish. If it is a scam, it is a bloody good one over many years
    Have fun or be miserable.

  10. Attention Dianne D’Vere.
    35-40 mins. ++++ Do you still think I am a hacker? I am up to 45 mins.
    For the rest, just forget the black dots on the white board. Go back to when you were five years of age connecting numbers to find a elephant. See if you can trace one with the ABC and in the mass media fake news
    How far do I have to go to get JB to use a pencil and recognise what is before him when he is distracted by Mr thaw.
    as case is referred to re injected compulsion
    Just listen to the ABC mass globalist media fools and SBS and be what most are… useless sucked controlled peasants.
    Do not miss the rotten Childs and rotten fellows..
    Truth viganle, where are yo?

    • Well, that lot should be heaps of fun for our home hackers digging their own graves.🤣🤷💁🏼🙀
      All fun and heaps of whiteboard dots for the normies.

    • Dianne,
      A little observation.
      One can pick the hackers who befriend us with obfuscation and grandma scenarios but ignore the real messages. That is their brief.
      Simples. 💁🏼🙀

      • I don’t think anyone said or implied you were a hacker but have you been hacked ? 😉
        Well keep having your fun, not long now until the drones DEWs diseases etc take us all out.

        • This whole site has been Hacked — why would it not have been –all of our minds have been hacked — controlled —
          A very wise survivor would always challenge me –she would say is that you speaking or is it THEIR programming. I have learnt to know the difference.

          Mass mind control. Thought police. Hacking our minds. A bit about THEIR programming Not sure it will open-if not I will copy and paste.

          title&isFreemail=true&r=266zdu&utm_medium=emailhttps://www.dougriggs.org/Recognizing_and_Classifying_Programming_Dr__Pam_Monday.pdf

          goes with Clifs Humanity Ascends?
          https://clifhigh.substack.com/p/humanity-ascends?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=681568&post_id=141867122&utm_campaign=email-post-

          I recently got an email from someone claiming to be Mary that had as subject matter “u r fun” this “having fun” — goading -mocking is part of the strategy to trigger responses. etc etc

          • “all of our minds have been hacked — controlled”

            Which means the whole truth and nothing but the truth can only be gleaned via an inviolable medium

          • “For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does.
            The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds.
            We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.
            And we will be ready to punish every act of disobedience, once your obedience is complete.”
            2 CORINTHIANS 10: 3 – 6

            How hard is it to figure out that if there was any other way of “demolishing strongholds” it would have been executed millennia ago ?

          • NLT translation is probably a tad more user-friendly:

            “We are human, but we don’t wage war as humans do.
            We use God’s mighty weapons, not worldly weapons, to knock down the strongholds of human reasoning and to destroy false arguments.
            We destroy every proud obstacle that keeps people from knowing God. We capture their rebellious thoughts and teach them to obey Christ.
            And after you have become fully obedient, we will punish everyone who remains disobedient.”
            2 CORINTHIANS 10: 3 – 6

            A fair indication that judgment is being held back so as to give everyone an opportunity to do an about-turn

  11. Am I angry?
    Heard to day that a friend of 60+ years back is suffering heart problems, they had to sop it to fix it and he has a cancer growth removed as well.. his Own estimate: down recently 70% and now 60% ::::: 😩😩😩 of what he recently was.
    Well ABC, SBS, corporate fake Fauci media and politicians… no BS, just: PLEASE EXPLAIN.
    ‘The day will come when they cannot walk down the street’. (Q)
    Rsoles💁🏼 BASTARDS.

    • Oh no commenter Tony Ryan must be right, Tucker is still working for Murdock
      “We need more people making out that they are white hats doing something”
      while the micro-control infrastructure goes in
      No wonder it’s so hard to get an electrician these days

  12. Many are numb to the change, trying to keep heads above water, holding the iPhone up so it doesn’t get wet! There’s no resistance to the takeover. Krown kabal komunist pigs have eroded the foundations of this once great nation and demoralised our people. We’ve degenerated into an oligarchy ruled by banksters where most Aussies are slaves.

    Banksters with korporates don’t want thinkers or independent businesses. Now everything is controlled by a few billionaires at the top, as everyone gets crushed by the jackboots of consolidation and conformity with the enemy loaded absorbing all the wealth.

    We have government run by super rich for the super rich only. And our 99.9% certainly don’t want it because it is an abomination to the Almighty Maker of all living, who will certainly put an end to this BS very soon.

    The .001% want to see 9/10 of us die and those who remain relegated to absolute servitude, under constant surveillance prevented from any independence outside their system of control. These sick beasts in power falsely believe they’ve become gods, with evol now ramped up to maximum chaos disorder and sufferings on our overwhelming majority of dry to the bone serfs. As they did last century in the Soviet states and 🇨🇳, now it’s our cleansing.
    Who’s team are you on, His or theirs?

  13. https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97483fc8-95fc-4d4e-91b2-517f5bb87b02_1080x1350.png?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

    Bearing Witness Council: A focus on Gaza with Barbara Wegmüller Rōshi

    February 26th, 12:00 PM Eastern Time, Zoom

    Join Spirit Holder Barbara Wegmüller Rōshi in a Way of Council focusing on Gaza. In Council, we come together in a small group in a profound way. We create a shared liminal space that is safe, confidential, and perhaps sacred. We each listen and speak from the heart, encountering and experiencing one another gently and with awareness. We are not solving problems or debating issues or making plans. We are making a healing space for each of us to hear and be heard, see and be seen.

    Where do we stand on Assange? Let go of or emotional opinions. Yes we need to stand up for the press- although that is being used as a weapon against us–Yes people like to share their knowledge and opinions about his morality credibility-

    For me Julian Assange’s story is about the human soul /spirit standing up against “the machine” It is everyones story. It is the BIG PICTURE STORY Of THE ENSLAVED CONTROLLED AND OPPRESSED and how we need to stand united in our SOULidarity.

    just a couple more links –to keep Julian and his family in our thoughts and prayers sending strength and love to all
    https://progressive.international/?link_id=0&can_id=e95826aeca9129ec06ed4d7b0c551ac2&source=email-urgent-stand-up-for-press-freedom-assange-extradition&email_referrer=email_2212457&email_subject=no-press-is-free-until-assange-is-free

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/02/17/grmo-f17.html?pk_campaign=assange-newsletter&pk_kwd=wsws

    • “The politicians may have changed, but the institutions of state remain the same and their attitude to Julian has always been that they felt threatened by truth and by people exposing what they’re up to behind closed doors.”

      Gabriel Shipton.

  14. From Gipster Blog Archive —“accidentally” appeared to me today.

    Portals do exist
    https://thegipster.blogspot.com/2012/11/nasa-announces-that-magnetic-portals-do.html
    and
    Alchemical Kubrick
    2001: The Great Work On Film
    by Jay Weidner

    https://thegipster.blogspot.com/2012/11/alchemical-kubrick-2001-great-work-on.html
    a long read ends with
    “The greatest works of art are trying to achieve exactly what Kubrick is attempting here. With the understanding of what 2001 is actually saying, Kubrick takes his place alongside DaVinci, and possibly even Shakespeare, as being one of the greatest artists of all time.

    One last interesting note to all of this. The great alchemist Fulcanelli and others have said that a great transmutation of the human species is going to takes place at some time near the end of the 20th century and the beginning of the 21st. Kubrick picked the date 2001 – which is astonishingly close to other dates prescribed by many ancient alchemists – including Nostradamus. What are we to make of the strange date that Kubrick picked out for the final transformation of the human species?

    Somehow, Kubrick knew.”

    I have not read -but coming from a different dimension in time and space
    Fascinating –and yes Ned and Mary–brings some “fun” into my life

    will probably over and out for a while lots to do–much to source–battles to be fought

    • Yeah that’s a good thorough perspective on 2001, I confess to being one of those who went and saw it repeatedly through my early teens and including a couple of times later since TV’s went widescreen I probably saw it ten times.
      I hasten to add that with any other film usually once was enough, occasionally twice.
      As far as combining religions with pre-religion and so forth the reviewer failed to mention the spaceship was designed to look like a giant mechanical sperm going towards an ( planetary ) egg which ties into the foetus-dude at the end being carried out to the starts somewhere. Too bad he could not get Saturn and it might have been a darker but even more sensational film.
      Too bad the ending to Eyes Wide Shut is still not public but all the stuff “they” do to the kids is the most taboo open secret of all, and often results in termination for the publicists. As Kubrick was from America can we say he was 90% likely to be Ashkenazim not Hebrew ? All this good-jew-bad-jew stuff is just about unfathomable. Where did Kubrick get his start-up capital ? His father was a homeopathic doctor from NYHMC, looks lke Rockerfellas got them to take the H out by now, and get the ol’ snake in there instead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Medical_College
      They say Kubrick had a strong mistrust of doctors and medicine. A doctor was the lead character in Eyes Wide Shut ( Tom Cruise, at that time married to Nicole Kidman ). Kubrick showed the finished film to the cast and ended up dead a few days later, after which the “epilogue” was chopped off, and a few other bits and pieces.

  15. Ok dimwits who do not bother to realise and are too gutless to wake up.
    Just listen to Mary for five plus a few at Her Situation Update at beforeitsnews.com people powered news
    Listen to Reece from about 40 mins to about 46 mins
    Less than seven MM
    Wake the F up and if anyone HERE does not wish to, explain why?
    Piss off with inane contributions. This is life and death.
    For those who think they can ignore such reports, provide particulars why so.
    Do you think we want to put our lives in your hands? What interests and agendas do you work for?

      • Thankyou for your considered critique,with particulars, of the SU update material, particularly relating to the last ten minutes or so.
        I will endeavour to pass on your considered assessment to the PM and our heads of military staff.
        They might even take your assessment on board for the defence of Australia and ultimately give you a medal for services to our nation.
        In the meantime mark 11th April on your calendar for receipt of your medal from His excellency the Governor General of Australia.
        Expect a promotional to the rank of General as your reward with your Commission as commander of the PM’s new battalion of scoutmasters to clean up the Russians for good and free The Ukraine.
        Being of the rank of General, expect to lead the PMs victories of Russia on ANZC day.
        As with the Mr Hawke precedent, Israel will no doubt name a boulevard in Haifa in your honour.
        Love it, so Australian: ‘GENERAL BOGAN BOULEVARD’…. .

      • General, do not forget episode 3287B at X22report.com for the staff meeting at 4 am to deal with and direct the media talking points for the day

        MM you can get up to date on ‘Assange and the Seth Rich murder.💁

    • This site has become an echo chamber about obvious wrongs done to us all, and which is so easy to follow as to the harm produced overall because it has become so obvious, especially with the recent exposures and occurrences of the past five years, and that are now slowly becoming ‘main stream’, but no one, on this site it seems, is willing to disengage from, in what has now become distractions to the coming main event, while even fewer consider that what they continue to engage in, is simply nibbling at the much bigger picture because their continuing engagement with the wrongs of the past, have now become distractions to them, and from which they just cannot seem to disengage from.

      Ned – this world is very close to the main event that will, hopefully, alter their thinking. We will have to await that out, so as gauge the end result from what every one of us will have to endure.

      I cannot continue to bang my head against the brick wall of this echo chamber in an attempt to wake folks up – so I will take my leave for the time being because I have had enough of the mockery, the ridicule, the accusations, and the outright disinformation being peddled on this site.

      Good luck with it all.

      • Yes, why bother?
        SHTF must happen, no matter what anyone does not realise.
        I recall as a kid watching a post war movietone news snippet reporting the ‘Phoney War’ in England. Film of the English on the beaches etc….. as though nothing was happening whilst the Polish horse cavalry charged Nazi tanks across flat landscapes.
        Well, they woke up at Dunkirk, then even more when the bombs hit London as they listened to Lord Haw.

      • And they are too lazy to listen to today’s situation Update by Mary at beforeitsnews.com – people powered news, today.
        They are too busy grooming their steeds in their Polish stables.
        Or getting their kids to get a ticket to a ‘Swift’y circus appearance.
        RETRIBUTION. ⚖️😫💀🤪
        First two minutes.

      • “Pride is what opens us up to deception.
        The pattern of that is Lucifer who was maybe the most beautiful and the wisest of all the angels.
        But he became proud of his beauty and his wisdom,turned to rebellion and ended up in deception.
        And if that can happen to an archangel in heaven as it did,how many of us could say “It could never happen to me!” ?

        One of the lures of many cults is the attraction that if you join them
        you are going to join a supergroup. I mean, the real overcomers.
        The people who are going to get the job done. The church has messed around and not got the job done but now here we are we’re going to get the job done. What does that appeal to? Pride, that’s right.”

        Actually I’d say conceit is more descript

  16. Michael Omartian: One of the Unsung Giants of Music. Rick Beato
    YouTube

    Not on topic, a good listen.
    Free Assange, Free Gaza, Free Ukraina and all children suffering worldwide. Imagine if they’re given instruments and not guns?
    During Vietnam war Americans, not old enough to vote or drink, were conscripted at 18 to kill. 🙏 for peace.

  17. It’s a matter of note that most of the wannabe Assange supporters are just far too emotional and subjective to make any sort of difference, as exemplified by a picture of a frantic-looking woman holding up a sign that reads:

    ”JUSTICE IS locking up war criminals NOT shooting the messenger”
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13108277/Julian-Assange-Afghans-Iraqis-danger-wikileaks-high-court-extradition.html

    Where are the placards that simply state “POLITICALLY MOTIVATED COURT DECISIONS ARE INVALID”?

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