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Bill Says “No” to Vaccines — The Real Interview with Bill Gates (Parody)

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Carol Venus interviews Bill Gates about the unfolding Corona Virus plandemic. Gumshoe went out of its way to make this interview happen — but unfortunately Bill stepped over the line and the video violated community standards.

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  2. No doubt about it – that would be his response anyway. Vaccine for thee, but not for me!

    I hear there is a special place set aside for Bill and Melinda Gates.

    One may hope to see that come true.

    • gates and your hero trump are on the same page when it comes to vaxeeens…

      must all be part of the plan i guess

      let me know how your jab goes, as of course… you trust the plan

      • Fair Dinkum – I think you had better look at what Trump is actually pushing as a cure/vaccine before joining Truth in that big hole you keep digging for yourselves.

          • Fair Dinkum – a quote from one of his comments – ‘Who gives a damn what you think!’

            Obviously you do because you choose to respond to what I put up.

          • lol – i respond because you didnt want to let sleeping dogs lie…

            you attacked first – i suggested a truce – you didnt want a truce… so now… well – you have to put up with it… deal with it … joe 🙂

          • “– ‘Who gives a damn what you think!’”

            show me the comment i made where you quoted that from …

        • ill try and convey this in a way.. on a level… you might understand, judged on previous examples…

          “you probably watch Joe Hildebrand!”

          nyuck nyuck nycuck 🙂

          “you probably dont know who *Joe Hildebrand is!”

          more larry & moe nyuck nyuck nyucking….

          *check mirror 🙂
          /me ROFLMFAO!

  3. The respective titles of this two-part series are self-explanatory … Follow the money trail.

    Part 1
    The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation – The Clintons and Gates – Bedfellows in Medicine
    https://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2020/05/the-bill-melinda-gates-foundation.html

    Part 2
    The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation: Quid Pro Quo and the New England Journal of Medicine
    https://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2020/05/the-bill-melinda-gates-foundation-quid.html

    Part 1 details the amounts of money ($431,460, 765) channelled through the various Clinton family foundations in to “medical research” – don’t you just love the titles they come up with – all with hidden double meanings, such as the “Clinton Health Access Initiative” – and their intimate ties to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

    Part 2 describes how science and peer review are now dead and defunct, replaced with Quid Pro Quo as it describes how Bill Gates now effectively controls the New England Journal of Medicine as his now personal propaganda tool.

    Of course the Angel of Death is going to opt out of injecting himself with his own toxic concoctions – just like Neil Ferguson forgot that social distancing only existed in his ‘research/computer modelling’ to be applied to the oblivious Pavlovian masses.

    Great work CV – I mean Carol.

  4. Aw, ya look so pretty, Dee.

    i think you’d better put the word “satire” on this video somewhere before they come at you with brass knuckles.

    • Perhaps we need to put our useless politicians on half-rations from the Parliament cafeteria. When I ate at those cafeterias it was a sumptuous meal. However, if the clowns were to be treated like ‘useless eaters’ and have to go on meager rations like the rest of society, then perhaps they would get the point at a more visceral level.

  6. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-08/tracking-technology-aims-to-improve-online-learning/12211996?WT.ac=localnews_canberra
    ( from the article)
    Key points:

    Teachers and students have been adapting to an online learning model throughout the COVID-19 pandemic.
    New technology tracks students eyes, head, mouse and keyboard movements helping teachers understand engagement levels.
    Scientists behind the tracking technology expect privacy concerns will be raised, but say there've included extra measures to alleviate those worries.

    Obviously there’s nothing to see here.

    https://www.trunews.com/stream/coronavirus-censorship-trunews-presents-banned-plandemic-video
    The trailer for the movie ‘Plandemic’ has been removed from Youtube, Vimeo etc. You can see it at the above address, it starts at 15m35s in. Interview with Judy Mikovits PhD follows.

    • “New technology tracks students eyes, head, mouse and keyboard movements helping teachers understand engagement levels.”

      NO, NO, NO, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. THROW THE BUMS OUT.

  7. I was watching Joe on the morning TV today and he mentioned all the Balinese committing suicide because of debts I guess, maybe there’s a vaccine against suicide coming, this would be handy for the slave drivers

    • Two things, bg:

      They may be receiving a message “kill yourself.”
      Speaking of having special vaccines on hand, you know the PTB never come up with a lethal disease (e.g.AIDS) unless they are already in personal possession of the cure.

  9. Another ‘dot’ in the collapse –

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-05-08-trump-zombie-economy-scheme-dumbest-economic-experiment-ever.html

    Eventually, they will sitting at home with a nice big paycheck that is bigger than what they used to get, but it won’t buy them squat, even if there was food in the market, which there won’t be.

    When you can see that your train is heading for the collapsed bridge, you have to ask yourself if you really want to remain on that train.

    This culture is going to get the enema it needs.

        • I’m afraid that’s what it will come down to. Already from the article you can see it in other countries/cultures.

          Don’t fork with me, I’ve been this route before, I probably won’t eat you (no promises), but I can always feed you to a mate’s pigs or use your useless carcass for fertilizer in the garden.

          I produce enough food for myself and can trade with others for what they have. Can you?

          Sh!t is starting to get real…

          • Years ago I read a personal history of a account of survival from Bosnia.
            Daily it was a risk to obtain food despite snipers and barter was the go etc.
            The commentator had found respite somewhere in South America.
            I was very moved by his personal account and manner of survival and family hardship that in the early 1990’s we had little idea, in our safe habitat.
            I have searched for the account and of course cannot find it.
            The best I can do is provide this link to a report.

            https://theculturetrip.com/europe/bosnia-herzegovina/articles/meet-bosnians-who-lived-through-the-siege-of-sarajevo/

            Hold on to freedom and always keep in mind evils from history not far ago. It keeps on happening somewhere, be aware that it may happen anywhere the bastards desire.
            If I had only filed his report I might be able to prepare for such a scenario.

          • Many of the goon snippers came to Oz after that war and were rewarded as security personnel in shopping complexes airports even as mercenaries is Australian ‘defence’ wars of acquisition. The crown brotherhood.

  10. Beautiful Carol Venus – thank you for asking the number one question (on a satirical level) – will Bill kill his own with his evil vaccine? Of course the answer is a resounding no. Starvation sounds awful. Facial recognition and tracking sounds awful. Hunger Games are awful. We could all see the plan coming – the symbolism has been there, in our faces, undeniable in every major corporate logo. Even in the insignia on the uniforms of our ‘protective’ services. This Weekend Warrior link on symbolism is worth watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeuYZDuomCk

    • Kayleigh McEnany is certainly a smooth operator – super confident, highly educated, charismatic and well briefed. I DON’T TRUST HER! – and nothing to do with her CNN background
      .
      It was when McEnany (twice) lauded Fauci and Birx as the trusted and supreme authorities on everything corona that made me watch and listen more closely.

      I really don’t know enough about the innards of the Flynn saga to adda anything … but I suspect just more smoke and mirrors.

      Just watch to about the 2-minute mark for the diagram Amazing Polly presents. (removed form yewtube)

      https://www.bitchute.com/video/duqxf3OaR19M/

      And I do believe and trust Dr Judy Mikovits

      • JS.
        Pity you do not know about the Flynn saga being going on for a year or so.
        Where have you been? Pity you have not been following X22 reports for the last two years…. even from 2017.
        Here is a chance to catch up and find yourself in the last few minutes.
        https://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2020/05/x22report-targets-painted-and-locked-instructions-given-to-stealth-bomber-drain-it-video-3521996.html
        Can not fix stupid!!
        Now, how to deal with crimes against humanity. sedition. treason etc.
        What would you do with the running dogs to treason?? Use smoke and mirrors in the defence?

        • At 9:20

          McEnany : “We [speaking on behalf of the president] had to put a stop to the economy […] **It was decided upon by the President of the United States to stop the United States economy, because we had to save 2.2 million lives … ** “ [Based on Fauci’s, Birx’s data-driven model of course.]

          I wonder who it was that decided to stop Australia’s economy … ?

          So you’re now in the Fauci/Ferguson et al pro-lockdown, mass unemployment camp because “she’s cool”?

          I’m across this …

          Ned, we agree on the problems and the perpetrators – I just don’t think ‘the cabal’ is trembling.

          • Bugger the cabal, we need only start their criminal aiders and abettors to be exposed and suffer a bit of trembling, as the 99.9% will be reaching for the pitchforks.

          • And meanwhile, speaking of stealth bomber tactics …

            Merchants of Death: Multibillion-Dollar Bailout for Arms Industry Amid Rising COVID Toll

            https://russia-insider.com/en/merchants-death-multibillion-dollar-bailout-arms-industry-amid-rising-covid-toll/ri29968

            “I have instructed the United States Navy to shoot down and destroy any and all Iranian gunboats if they harass our ships at sea,” US President Donald Trump tweeted Wednesday in a startling threat that could trigger a catastrophic war throughout the Middle East and beyond.

            […]

            “In recent days, the US has sharply escalated its air strikes against the impoverished African nation of Somalia, even as the coronavirus pandemic threatens to ravage its population. Escalating war threats continue against Venezuela, and the Pentagon continues to provide support for the near-genocidal Saudi-led war against the people of Yemen.”

          • Your allegation that I am now in the Fauci/Ferguson lockdown has no basis from anything I have stated, believe or accept.
            Your serial concocted presumptions are BULLSHIT and your desperation in continued obfuscation is your exposure.
            I will not have further truck with you.

          • Oh come on Ned, I thought we were on the same side – maybe just a different page. I recuse myself from commenting on the Flynn developments and merely quote what McEnany actually said about Fauci and Birx – and then on behalf of Trump himself – and you get so obfluscutated you misspell your own name …

      • Julius – Ned/Med is giving you a heads up! I think you do appreciate that from your last response to him.

        You need to take on board that whoever in the Trump admin comes to state publicly, whatever is stated, is now generally accepted for public appraisal at the higher levels of the Trump admin. What McEnany stated is simply for the media to swallow – do you not agree that that the media is also part and parcel of the Globalist/ Deep state?

        Have they not been pushing the Birx/Fauci line on vaccines? Have you stopped to consider why the Trump admin would push their (Birx/Fauci) lies? Would it be to finally expose them for what they truly are – Globalist/Deep state operatives?

        How do you convince those who do not know – you must expose the enemy by their own actions so that those who can see the exposure learn who the enemy truly is.

        Two can play at the disinformation game, or do you believe only one side (law abiding side) should be always honest when playing with the other side, that is nearly always dishonest and that ventures into criminality?

        I read your comments, you’re not a silly or misguided person, but you are not looking in the right places with an open but critical eye.

  12. I can’t remember which comment (by ?TV} I read on the so-called Fed-Treasury merger and related shenanigans but this is topical and related

    Trump’s Red Meat Head Fakes Are Worse Than You Thought

  13. Id like to say well done to Carol Venus and the video producers for a top quality production…
    Its like theyve experience in this sort of stuff!

  14. Just thought I would report from the weather channel. It is May 9 here, and it is snowing. I opened my curtains and was amazed. Believe me it’s not supposed to snow in May:

    Concord, NH
    Saturday 6:00 AM
    Snow

    • Nope. Australia has been lost. I have just watched a video of police ripping a screaming boy from her mother, because she is protesting. This nation has been lost. (Sorry Mary)

      This is how they have gotten away doing this terrible stuff — make us feel better with stuff on television; singing hymns in a church; or singing songs — especially in lockdown. They’re making out that we are caught by a terrible stroke of nature (a virus) and we can make good by singing waltzing maltida on zoom. That it will all be alright when we eventuallllllllly get back to normal. Forget it. This song and its “genuine separated–togetherness” might be making some feel good, but it is making me physically feel nauseous. (As I said, so sorry Mary)

    • Mary, what was the name of the jolly swagman?
      Half a leg of jumbuck for the correct answer.

      Dee, how distressing for you to see the video……….It should be compulsory for every member of the relevant bench with counsel and parents to watch if at the commencement of every such case.
      If I were on the bench I would have it shown and order that all parties and representatives go away, watch it again and return to explain why it is so, then send them away again with a strong hint that they pull their fingers out of their egos, settle in the child’s interests, or for ever, wear and suffer the child’s wrath and revenge in due course.

      • and remember Pell in view of the latest material from the Royal Commission findings which would encompass an examination of all involved with the relevant case.

      • Ned I felt the same about the Four Corners program about Donvale Detention Centre-Australias Shame— everyone should be made to watch it–forced to watch it—
        As for the choir-a bit Hillsongee for me–who funds these “bringing people together events” Mesmerising them into complacency. feeling good about themselves

        I recently had cause to post some evil you tube -“pop” “music” directed at our very young children—using frequency-symbols subliminal messages–MKULTRA mind control–controlling minds–suicide programming–pornography links

        The Franklin case is the one to watch Dee.

        Nick Bryant Shawn Atwood

    • Perhaps a more appropriate intro would have been “Lest we forget, the current socio-political situation is spelled out in our most well known folk song”:

      1st Verse
      A destitute itinerant worker (swagman) is resting under a eucalyptus tree (coolibah) on the banks of a watering-hole (billabong). He has lit a fire and is boiling tea in a tin can (billy). He is singing and passing the time.

      2nd Verse
      While there, he notices a sheep (jumbuck) wandering down to the watering-hole for a drink. He is starving, so the swagman catches the sheep, kills it, eats what he can, and stows the rest in his backpack (tucker bag).

      3rd Verse
      Unfortunately for the swagman, the wealthy landowner (squatter) comes by the waterhole. He is mounted on his expensive horse (thoroughbred) and is accompanied by three policemen (troopers). They catch the swagman red-handed with the remains of the sheep in his backpack and try to arrest him for killing the sheep.

      4th Verse
      Preferring death over imprisonment for his crime, the swagman jumps into a waterhole and commits suicide. Ever since that day, his ghost still haunts the waterhole and can be heard singing his song.

      https://panique.com.au/trishansoz/waltzing-matilda/waltz.html

  18. I was interested as Gates mentioned the importance of “governments working on a co-operative basis”! A few weeks back I received two COVID articles byTomas Pueyo forwarded from a close friend’s niece (who holds a PhD in health). Out of curiosity I searched… Not only is the writer at Stanford Uni, a Gates Fdtn recipient, but when I checked the “endorsers” of the articles.. 8 of the first 10 are also Gates Fdtn funded. I confess I couldn’t be bothered to check further – they are ALL ‘working on a co-operative basis’! And who can blame them? if they lose their funding, they lose their job!! (like the Wuhan lab researchers?!) This MUST make anyone with a functioning brain think…. OR not???

  19. I was searching for another article on Flynn and accidentally encountered this …

    Israel Hacked Our Election – FTN

    Interesting comments about Flynn at around 12:00 [the ‘Indian’ agent – never heard that expression before)

    At 37:00+ it even brings in the Emperor having no Clothes theme

    Here are some supplementary links brought up in this video

    Trump Receives the National Jewish Health Humanitarian Award in 1976

    https://www.thegivingtrump.com/trump-receives-the-national-jewish-health-humanitarian-award-in-1976/

    Is appears Trump has been concerned about respiratory health for decades.

    “National Jewish Health is an academic hospital / clinic in Denver, Colorado that carries out research and treatment in respiratory, heart, immune and related disorders. Like Mayo Clinic and other well known medical centers, it draws people from many countries to receive care. Founded in 1899 to treat tuberculosis, it was non-sectarian, but received funding from B’nai B’rith in the 1950s. U.S.A. National Jewish Health was ranked by News and the World Report as the leading US respiratory hospital.”

    Trump – The Friends of Zion Museum – Award 2018

    ***https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Friends_of_Zion_Museum

    The recipients by year:
    • 2015- Former U.S. president, George W. Bush.
    • 2016- Prince of Monaco, Albert II.
    • 2017- Former president of Bulgaria, Rosen Plevneliev.[6]
    • 2018- Donald Trump, President of the U.S.

    Jewish National Fund Tree of Life Award

    ***https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_National_Fund_Tree_of_Life_Award

    Interesting to note that along with Trump, we see other recipients such as Colin [WMD] Powell and Ben Carson

    • Julius – perhaps you could now do a list of those who have received the Nobel Peace prize over the past five years? Just to be fair and balanced mind you.

  20. Following along the lines of the Problem-Reaction-Solution formula that David Icke speaks of in relation to False Flags / fear inducing events orchestrated by the ruling class to further consolidate their power , here is a succinct analysis of the COVID crisis from Etienne de Harven (Emeritus Professor of Pathology – Univ. Of Toronto ) :

    ” Corruption of research is a widespread phenomenon currently found in many major, supposedly contagious health problems , ranging from AIDS to Hepatitis C, Bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE or “mad cowdisease”) , SARS , Avian flu and current vaccination practices (human papillomavirus or HPV vaccination) .

    [ It’s all about ] …… the decades-old recipe for profiteering in viral epidemics . ie :

    1] Inventing the risk of a “disastrous” epidemic ;

    2] Incriminating an elusive pathogen ;

    3] Ignoring alternative toxic causes ;

    4] Manipulating epidemiology with non-verifiable numbers to maximise the false perception of an imminent catastrophe , and ….

    5] Promising salvation with vaccines.

    There it is, The Five Point Plan initiated by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation ( aided & abetted by the Rothschild banking mafia cartel to deflect attention from the coming engineered global depression ) , to profit from fear in the community .

  21. Not Really Off-Topic

    Dee, just answer yes or no: Is this child-stealing in China the same as in Australia, according to your research?

  22. Ned (this is off topic) but seeing as you’re doing the rounds in the comments section , I thought you ( & others ) might be interested to read a couple of paragraphs from a recent article by ex-CIA white hat Philip Giraldi that appeared in The Unz Review .

    The article was on the USS Liberty incident in 1967 but the couple of paragraphs below spell out the lasting damage that is ongoing to this day from not properly investigating the crime then & covering up the role of the perpetrators :

    ” The tale of the Liberty demonstrates that even fifty-three years ago the United States government was betraying its own people out of deference to Jewish power and to the state of Israel.

    If anything, as horrific as the killing of 34 personnel on board of the Liberty was, the situation has gotten EVEN WORSE as Washington sends billions of dollars to the Jewish state annually while also giving its kleptocratic government a green light to commit war crimes and other aggressions that will ultimately draw in the United States, and could plausibly bring about our ruination.

    It is unpleasant to say the least to watch an unrestrained and unprincipled client state do terrible damage to a much larger patron enabled by the machinations of a dual-loyalty fifth column, but that is what we are seeing.

    And the actual rot really began with the attack on the U.S.S. Liberty, when patriotic Americans died at the whim of a feckless president [LBJ] who loved a foreign country more than his own.

    One hopes he is rotting in hell ” .

    The last line above could not be more appropriate for the most traitorous U.S President ( by a country mile ** ) , that ever lived .

    ( ** Complicit in the JFK / RFK / MLK assassinatons & cover up , responsible for the Gulf of Tonkin incident that began the Vietnam War & much more ) .

    • Truth – I would suggest you give that subject a rest until more information becomes available. It is one thing to expose what needs to be exposed, but when no one has ALL the facts that need to be known, then exposing such a subject only exacerbates the already raw nerves that has been activated on this site by such unthinking adventurism.

      When you or I, or anyone else has irrefutable evidence for the reason for that incident, then, and only then, should it become known.

        • Mary – like I attempt tell those interested in this incident. The FACT are not available and the standard narrative for that incident is not acceptable, but no one at this time outside of the record keepers, has ALL the evidence for WHY that incident occurred, that would then give us WHO to blame, and which in all probability will be a whole different perspective to what many BELIEVE to have occurred.

          Maybe you should read Ned’s emotive laden comments to get my point?

  23. SNOW ANALYSIS

    Sorry but I need to record this. 10am in Concord NH. A few minutes ago the snow turned to hail, as I noted from the sound on my window. I looked out and saw only a few pieces of the “hail”. I went out and photographed them. They have a sort of bubbly surround. I snatched 2 off the ground and put them on my kitchen table. They melted, but not to normal water. (If no one claims the patent, I will apply for the patent myself. )

    Also want to record that at 8am the snow was not falling as normal. Picture a clock with 12 as the firmament and 6 as the ground. All my life I have seen snow falling SLOWLY and at a 180 degree angle, ending up at about 6 on the clock (the ground). (or at 5pm or 7pm if there was some wind.) But at 8am-ish, the snow was falling like in a big hurry and was falling in two “wind’ directions at the same time. Thus in one part of my backyard it came down to 4 or 5 oclock whilst in another part it came down to 7 or 8 oclock — quite a sight to see. I phoned Dee while it was happening.

    Finally, for the record, there is now no precipitation but the sky is completely white — just as in Adelaide for the last 10 years. (Starts blue in Adl but ends up white by late afternoon).

    • Mary – look up Grand Solar Minimum – we are in it for the next few decades and for freakish kind of weather that has been documented throughout history over cycles of 200 or 400 years.

      Adapt2030 on youtube may give you some further info.

      • The GSM is about real stuff, cold weather shite. Will not happen til something or other doth shake the darling buds of May.

    • Chemtrails is not conspiracy. But usually a daily fact above our skylines, unless the wind is blowing off-shore. Just think, why is our ‘defence’ force attacking its own people, on a daily basis? Always spraying west to east above Sydney,from Richmond, and other bases for country regions. All governments globally are at war against their own citizens. There would be no lockdown if this was not obvious for all eyes to witness. Then again, who has time to look up these days, the ubiquitous iPhones have all captive awaiting further instructions.
      Serco surrounding the barns, ‘move along nothing to see or hear’.
      Crown freemasonry ccp communism kabal supervision, advance Oz fare!

      • 56, here in the Wild West, Australia, their chem trail flights are usually south to north or vice versa of from the n/w to s/e.

        • We see these trails over the Northern Darling Downs frequently; also strange clouds which I assume have been blasted somehow ?? microwaved.

  24. Not entirely off topic ( as C-virus is mentioned peripherally ), below is a clip from Jimmy Dore explaining what Trump is really up to ( just watch the 3 minutes from 15:30 – 18:30 ) :

    Many of you will be familiar with Jimmy Dore but for those of you that aren’t , he is a far left advocate of Socialism & supported Bernie Sanders in the primaries for the Dem Presidential nomination .

    I don’t agree with Jimmy on a lot of things (including his politics) but I love his passion , independence & his objectivity in calling out ANY politician that has sold out their constituency – no matter their political orientation.

    So, even though Jimmy supported Bernie Sanders , he has come to realise by the way Sanders capitulated to Joe Biden in the most prostratingly servile way (in the face of vote rigging etc ) , that Sanders is & ALWAYS WAS a tool of the cabal – a sort of ‘ controlled opposition ‘ within the Democratic Party.

    As you would have witnessed in the clip , Jimmy absolutely rips Bernie Sanders – in equal measure with Trump ( two obvious puppets of the Zio-cabal ) .

    ( LANGUAGE WARNING : Jimmy Dore at his profane best ) .

    • Towards the end (of this superb video, thank you Troof), he calls Bernie a cocksucker.

      How did he ever get taken in by Bernie in the first place? But then, how did the smart, sophisticated, experienced author of Prosecution for Treason get took by Tulsi Gabbard?

      Signed, Embarrassed

  25. Nemesis , the USS Liberty incident happened 53 years ago & , I think most fair minded people would say that pretty much as much evidence has come out as is ever going to come out .

    Do you suggest we wait another 50 years , or perhaps 100 ?

    What say you Ned ?

    Should we wait until the 22nd century before we tell the gullible masses what really happened on that day ( or about the JFK / RFK assassinations , 9/11 ) ???

    Granted , civilians like you or I are not privy to confidential documents etc but high ranking ex-CIA operatives like Phil Giraldi most definitely are ( and will have liased / worked with people of even greater seniority in the U.S Intel & military community who have shared information with him ).

    At the end of the day, when Phil Giraldi says something , you can take it to the bank – such is his track record of truth & integrity .

    • I am asked what do I say.
      It is imperative that those responsible for the gutless massacre of crewmen of the USS Liberty by Israel be exposed, tried then lined up and shot as terrorists of the worst hypocritical example in the world.
      As Bush said something like; ‘….those who protect, aid comfort and harbour terrorists ….’
      After alll , till recently survivors aiding death and. Misery in concentration camps have been brought to justice. What is the difference between the bean counter at a concentration camp being brought to. Justice with those mass murderers Attacking the Liberty and continuing to cover for the killers with lies and deceit.
      One has to think that the worst enemy decent Jews have in this world is Israel and its apologists.

    • Truth – and there are other C_A agents who will give differing versions of that incident to what Giraldi provides. There are no irrefutable sources, yet available, that any of us can rely on as baring witness to the actual event itself.

      • Nemisis,
        I am sick of your obfuscation concerning the reality of what the crewmen suffered.
        I have told you previously that Joe Meadors, who was on the ship has informed me (and also Dee) of the horrific 2 hours of mass murder by the Israeli forces.
        Indeed Joe was also in communication with Jewish News editor based in Bondi.
        Your credibility is shot and I am surprised that you claim once to have been a police officer who should do better and desire to bring murderers to a account and not protect them.
        https://gumshoenews.com/2017/05/20/new-book-exposes-israels-attack-on-the-uss-liberty-erasing-the-liberty/

        • To All.
          Please note the comments in the article at GS linked above.
          Nemisis has been constantly defending a war crime for years and besides others, I have dealt with him ….and so did Ex Prime Minister Fraser.

          • Ned – that is a low act on your behalf – please show how I have defended that incident when all I have done is to put a different perspective on what may have been the motive for that incident that never ever gets discussed by you – all you seem to be interested in is blaming one side when you don’t have all the FACT for WHY that incident occurred in the first place!

            And I have never doubted the Liberty’s survivors first hand accounts, but when delving into incidents such as this, one needs to step outside the emotive reactions to such incidents so that motives can be established, which any good investigator will always look for.

            Motives, as you should realize, are proofs of the actions and for WHY those actions occurred.

            Is is possible that Israel was being betrayed by an ally on that day and was actually defending itself?

            You don’t even consider that possibility.

            What would you do given the scenario that I have put forward and that is based in what others have based their scenarios on – versions of an event that no one has ALL the evidence for!

            Have you considered that?

            Even you, who has never asked the simple question for WHY that incident occurred avoids the WHY and if you knew the WHY, then you would also know WHO to blame!

            But, for whatever reasoning on your part, you just do not want to go there, seeming to be content to live with who you BELIEVE should be blamed!

            You know that ALL evidence has to be presented in court before any jury can make a determination on who is guilty and who is not guilty!

            Your one eyed stance, like Truth, takes the side of the victims without bothering to find out WHY the incident happened and WHO caused it to happen, and that is where you should be looking if you wish to blame anyone!

            Leave your emotions behind because emotions tend to blanket what needs to be exposed. In that regard, and in your anxiety to apportion blame, maybe you have the wrong enemy?

            I tried to avoid getting back into this incident because I could see how it upsets you. This incident is a no win argument for anyone until what actually caused that incident is made public – and hopefully soon!

            And please do not accuse me of something I have not set out to do.

          • Nemisis.
            Give the attempted psychological trickery a break,
            I play my own hand…………Joe Meador’s hand and that of his crewman, for justice and accountability and I will continue to do so.
            Do not presume to read my mind unless you can identify with justice.
            Now what is in your hand? Defending killers?

  26. BTW Nemesis , who is going to be the arbiter of determining what is or isn’t ‘irrefutable evidence’ ?

    Will YOU be the one entrusted with that role ( in light of your abysmal track record in making determinations of veracity ) ?

    I recall you dismissing the evidence from David Irving because it didn’t fit in with your preconceived narrative ( even though the most respected objective researchers have heaped praise on the man & categorised Irving as the greatest WWII historian that ever lived ) .

    No my friend , what you propose is a form of censorship .

    Everyone should be allowed to state their conclusions in the public domain & the evidence to support it should be scrutinised thoroughly .

    The Gumshoe readers & the general public will then pass judgement .

    If only we lived in a country that allowed such unrestricted free speech & we weren’t subject to the B.S Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act whereby any statement can be construed to be deemed offensive to some group or other .

    One can only dream of that day when Australia truly becomes a free country .

    • Truth – actual un-redacted documentation will be released regarding that incident. Just as un-redacted documentation will be released on many other incidents that have remained covered up – Roswell Crash for instance.

      You just have to be patient.

      • Tell that to Joe Meadors and the families of the murdered crewmen on the US Liberty which was a abominable war crime against non combatants in international waters.
        There is clear evidence to charge the forces who carried out the cowardly gutless attack leaving and not providing assistance.
        If they in defence want to claim that they were just following orders…………..some tried that at the Nuremberg trials. Didn’t work.
        If you as a police officer was ordered to kill a unarmed defenceless innocent citizen………… would you do it…………I wonder?

      • Ned – well, what can I say? You’ve certainly allowed your imagination to run away with you this time.

        I keep telling you – that ALL the evidence is not yet available, but you just won’t accept that will you!

        In a previous comment you wrote that ‘ we are the same page’ and I replied, ‘we only have one sticking point’

        But you just’ can’t let it go until ALL the evidence becomes available!

        • Nemisis, you were a copper once, right?
          OK, on patrol you interrupt three gunmen holding up a bank and they have shot a few customers.
          They run away with the cash, but you have information as to their identities and where they are splitting up the cash.
          You get your riot squad specialists together and catch all those who were in the bank.
          The commissioner says good job, charge them.
          You say no, commissioner can’t do that.
          Why not?
          Because there is a mystery here, we cannot find/identify the getaway driver and the people who we believe planned it and helped and we have information that it was done with inside intelligence. We have to wait till we find the rest of the conspiracy operatives who aided, abetted and planned the job and also those who are giving protection, aid, comfort and succour to them
          How long will that take?
          Could take years Commissioner.
          Son are you an idiot? I spoke to the DPP and it is a clear case of murder, robbery etc.
          As being a crown solicitor and also a crown prosecutor on occasions I would be relieved that you are not now a NSW police officer and so would the relatives of the victims.

          Is there not a person on this site that cannot accept that Nemisis; with his training (?) and experience has a individual particular agenda to excuse or falsely justify not having the Israeli murderers, cowards and war criminals, that attacked the USS Liberty in international waters, charged convicted and hanged?

          Interesting article today in the Daily Telegraph (Sydney) as to how the Israelis deal with killers at war. The MOSSAD mob kidnapped Eichmann in about 1961 from Argentina and Israel hanged him in 1962. Following orders? NO EXCUSE!

          That is how Israel deals with ‘war’ criminals……… excepting their own!!!!!!!!

          What is it Nemisis, you like war criminals……..but only some?

          I would be very surprised if nearly all my Jewish legal colleagues would not regard your stance as a embarrassment to all Jewry . Or they might try and explain that; he is just a old simple copper and we have dealt with them frequently in cross examination in the witness box exposing their BS.

        • Ned – as I have attempted to explain to you and anyone else interested in this incident. Motives provide reasons for actions and actions have consequences.

          No one is able at this time and with irrefutable proof to point the finger of blame for that incident without first knowing WHY Israel would attack an ally, and until that WHY is made freely available, everything else about that incident, excepting for the victims of it, has no substantive relevance as to the actual event.

          The WHY is paramount to the whole incident.

          You and I, and others, know that the standard narrative of that incident is bullshit because nothing about that narrative when given the sniff test makes any sense, but we don’t know anything else that can be proven as being relevant to the actual event.

          Knowing what happened does not prove that an attack against an ally, and done intentionally, was not enacted without severe provocation that Israel knew would in all probability, lose them the support of their only ally in the middle east.

          I’m all for justice running its course, but it has to been seen as justice served and that means having ALL the evidence available on which to make a determination on what exactly happened on that day that caused Israel to attack a valued and trusted ally.

          • Commissioner: “You have caught the bank robbers cold.”
            “Oh we must find out why they did it Commissioner”,
            Commissioner: “.The mass murdering cowards can tell the sentencing judge why they did it, THAT IS THE SYSTEM IN AUSTRALIA AND WORLWIDE IN CIVILISED COUNTRIES, where have you been? Son, do your job charge the bastard bank robbers or go chase traffic”.
            .
            Dream on, you are doing a great job exposing Israel and its puppet apologists.
            Give it a break Nemisis, the world is waking up.
            https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/05/10/625019/ICC-Israel-war-crimes-Palestine-Australia

          • Ned – I would not be using you as a barrister at court if that is how you determine the guilt of anything.

            Talk about a closed mind!

  27. OK, Spoilsport McLachlan, try this one, from 8 years ago. And by the way, how many songs can you sing in Dutch? (And I don’t mean Afrikaans, though I’ll give you half a point for that).

  28. Mary , I readily admit to being taken in by ‘ Candidate Trump ‘ & Tulsi as well .

    A friend had sent me this video about Tulsi last year :

    I should’ve paid more attention .

    Signed ,

    Even more Embarrassed .

    • Wow, that is a good video, but he shouldn’t be lecturing while driving on the highway.

      Anyway, at 7 mins he says: “Rip the mask of kindness off evil.” At 9 mins, “Tulsi is for One World Order.”

      If anybody else out there wants to confess embarrassment, not mentioning any fishy names, let them come forward….

      • On second thought, Troof, the powers that be were not nice to Tulsi during her campaign. They kept her out of some of the debates, and the MSM acted like she did not exist. Also I doubt the validity of her poll numbers in the primaries. If she is CFR, as was HRC, they should have fawned all over her.

        During 2019, I looked her up as a member of CFR — having been prompted by a comment on Gumshoe — and thought it said she belonged to that organization for a few of her early Congressional years and then dropped out.

        And why did she introduce the “Stop Arming the Terrorists Act”? I’ll say one more thing in her favor, and then I hope I don’t cover the matter again: In 2019, when she announced for prez, she said in no uncertain terms that she would, in the end, endorse whatever Dem candidate won the Primaries. So her big smile for Biden was not a turncoat moment.

      • Embarrassed but wiser and stronger.

        I was just fishing around and noticed your comment. By the way, I can only subscribe to a particular thread by making an initial comment and at that time ticking the “Notify me of new comments via email” box. It was you that thumbed down the *Like option, remember? 😊

        But yes, that would me – firstly taken in by the candidate that did not want to start WWIII overtly and then by the brilliant appeal of ‘Servant Leadership’ to a certain demographic.
        The height of my [?misplaced] admiration and hope for Tulsi Gabbard came when she introduced the “Stop Arming Terrorists Act” bill to STOP funding and supporting Al Qaeda …

        And then one gradually starts to see her position on such legislation as:

        • Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act: adoption of further sanctions against Russia for selling arms to Syria

        • Protecting Our Democracy Act: calling for an independent investigation of the Russian interference

        and

        • Ukraine Support Act: Voted in favor of the act which condemns the Russian annexation of Crimea

        And then she repeatedly referred to … Al Qaeda who were “responsible for the attacks on 9/11” (!). You may recall that I called her out on this a few times.

        Her appearance on Colbert was what really struck me between the eyes.

        But let’s look for the positive:

        “Every act of conscious learning requires the willingness to suffer an injury to one's self-esteem. That is why young children, before they are aware of their own self-importance, learn so easily; and why older persons, especially if vain or important, cannot learn at all.”

        Thomas Szasz, author, professor of psychiatry (1920-2012)

        We may be embarrassed but we are so much wiser and our self-esteem is now stronger than ever.

  29. We keep hearing about those ‘ sealed indictments ‘ & Qanon keeps telling us something big is about to drop next week ( or perhaps the week after ) , which just never seems to materialise .

    Or perhaps that JFK jr will be exhumed & reconstituted (by adding water) & come to life to reveal himself as ‘ Q ‘ .

    Meanwhile , Graham Elwood has the guts to name some of the 70 names affiliated with Epstein .

    Why does Trump mess with ‘ sealed indictments ‘ that are going nowhere ?

    Trump can sign an Executive Order & round up these paedophiles TODAY !!

    Trump can contract some mercenaries from SilverCorpUSA or TigerSwan & rather than send them overseas to enact regime change in Venezuela or wherever , he could do what Elwood suggests (watch from 12:15 – 15:30 ) :

    Video titled : 70 Names in Epstein Court Doc – ZERO Arrested :The Political Vigilante .

    • I took your advice and started listening at 12 mins. Very good. At the end he said “Hit the like and subscribe buttons.” I had never done this before (did not know what it was) but for him I was happy to do it, as he asks the Navy Seals to do the needful. {“Round em up”).

      Dee do we have Like and subscribe buttons? I have often hit the little thingie here in the Comment box that says “Notify me of new posts via email” but it does not yield results and yes i did check spam.

    • Truth – I previously warned you about connecting Trump to Venezuela.

      Go to Breitbart News and read the article : Expert suggests alleged mastermind of Venezuela’s failed coup is a ‘Double Agent’ working for Maduro.

      • Seriously Truth! – how many times do you need to be WARNED!?

        an “Expert suggests” for crying out loud!

        no more warnings.. next time… well…

        wait and see… the wheels of justice turn ever so *slowly…

        *any slower they’d be going backwards…

        ohhh….. wait………

    • Truth – you write what many others are saying while not considering that when Trump took office in Jan, 2017, he first, had to clean house to remove Obama’s holdovers, and sleepers put in place to thwart Trump’s agenda.

      There’s a list of worldwide resignations of those in top positions around the world as soon as Trump wrote out his executive order to combat human trafficking.

      Maybe you should read that list to see just how many felt the need to jump ship? It’s a pretty long list.

      You don’t think the numbers of pedophiles taken out of action since Trump took office has not exploded in numbers arrested, and right across the world? I don’t think a day goes by without this or that person being arrested for such depravity.

      And he is continuing to expose America and the world’s enemies – Birx, Fauci and Gates, for example.

      If Trump had immediately moved to arrest and/or remove America’s enemies, as he knows them to be, but millions of Americans are still clueless to – what do you believe would have happened in the streets all across America?

      How do you get the majority of people to recognize America’s enemies without blood being spilled? You allow those enemies to expose themselves publicly through various plans designed to bring them out of the shadows.

      You know there are sealed indictments waiting – some have already been actioned – but evidence at court level has to be accumulated against those named within them, and according to some, there are tens of thousands of names. That takes time to arrange.

      As the old saying goes, the wheels of justice turn slowly.

  30. Excuse me, a further update on the “storm.”
    Around 4.30pm it kicked up again, but in a mild way, with 3 peculiarities:

    The “snow” occurred while the sun was shining (unusual).
    The “flakes” were tiny hard-looking spheres. I’d say 12 of them could fit on my delicate, feminine thumbnail.
    They fell on the grass and quickly disappeared — whether by melting or evaporating I don’t know. Generally, things don’t evaporate quickly here the way they do in Adelaide.

    My cell phone says “34 Fahrenheit, Concord”

    I hope God will deal with whoever is playing God. This is not funny.

    • The wind is blowing off-shore, today in Sydney, no spraying of chemtrails. The ptb don’t waste their poison. When will people realise that the suburbs of the connected get sprayed as well. Our oppressors even hate their own kind. Sick sick bastards.

  31. Nemesis , I think there has been a typo in the Breitbart article you referenced in your post this morning.

    What it should have read is : ‘ CIA disinformation lackeys allege mastermind of Venezuela’s failed coup is a Double Agent ….. ‘ .

    That makes a LOT more sense & certainly matches precisely the available evidence .

  32. Nemesis , what’s with your Repeated-to-the-nth-degree FACT-FREE assertion of the’ explosion of paedophiles arrested under Trump ‘ ?

    You’re not reciting that old Mossad / Josef Goebbels maxim of ‘ tell a BIG LIE & tell it OFTEN ‘ again ?

    Save it Nem – the Gumshoe readers are too savvy to fall for that one .

    WHERE is the evidence that any more paedos have been rounded up during Trump’s tenure (either in the U.S or here in Oz ) than in previous years ?

    I’ve asked that question NUMEROUS TIMES & all I get is …. the sound of crickets .

    • Truth – and like wise with you and your obfuscations – especially when you run out of ammo because you lack in depth research, such as, you cannot provide any real argument against those Moon Missions.

      So, like your other two mates, you move onto something else rather than taking to defend your stance. Says much to me about your lack of commitment to a subject.

      And your tendency to enlist ‘the Gumshoe readers’ as your ally against me, tells me much more about your own insecurity that engenders your bullying tactics to get some points on the board for you.

      I believe you to be a very manipulative and shallow person.

      • lol – poor Nem the perpetual victim – i suggest you expand your thinking & issue another warning!

        just be patient.. the wheels of justice are turning.. albeit slowly XXXX trust the plan <3

  33. Nemesis , what’s with the ‘ …if Trump moved immediately to round up America’s enemies, there would be blood in the streets ‘ ?

    You’re right. What was I thinking ?

    Yes , yes it’s too early for that.

    Israel has only just annexed the Golan Heights.

    It will take time ( & U.S taxpayers support of hundreds of billions in the coming years ) to build up sufficient strength so that we can defeat the Hezbollah Freedom Fighters.

    Then we annex Lebanon as a stepping stone towards the annexation of Syria , Jordan & then the entire Middle East ( thus obtaining the mineral resources that come with it ).

    You’re absolutely right Nemesis.

    Let’s wait until the Oded Yinon Plan has been fulfilled in its entirety ( giving the Zio-miscreants control of a significant proportion of the world’s oil & natural gas resources ) .

    Then , and only THEN ( after we’ve gotten geo-strategic resource hegemony over the world ) , can we start this ‘ round-up ‘ .

    Of course you’re referring to a different round-up than the one I had in mind.

    I envisaged a round-up of these shadowy Zio-cabal paedos & war mongers ( ie: the very people that you envisaged would be in the upper echelons of power in this Zio-centric One World Government of yours ).

    The round-up you’re imagining involves the Gentiles being corralled like farm animals , tagged with biometric markers & force fed toxic vaccines so that we live no longer than our productive expiry dates .

    Thanks for your magninimous offer , but I shall pass on that .

    • Truth – looks like Obammy may be the first head that Trump takes. But you’re so lost in your own rhetoric that you’ll probably miss that too!

      So you just keep on digging – say Hi to Xi when you get there.

  34. Dinkum – great comebacks to Nemesis’ warnings & threats .

    Really funny – esp. your ‘ wheels of justice are turning ‘ & ‘ trust the plan ‘ .

    Love it .

  35. Nemesis , in relation to your allegation that I ‘cannot provide any real argument against those Moon missions ‘ , my response is : ‘ what’s the point ‘ ?

    No matter what I show you, no matter what the credentials of the individuals I source my info from , if it doesn’t agree with the textbooks from those Zio-aligned Yeshiva’s you were indoctrinated at , you will dismiss it .

    For example , take the NASA engineer (whose name I provided – Kelly Smith) that is working on the Orion project ( the proposed mission to go to the moon & beyond ), this engineer CLEARLY says they are working on developing technology that will ensure safe passage through the Van Allen Radiation belts on the outward journey & again on the return leg .

    WHAT ???

    Didn’t they go to the moon in 1969 ? Why don’t they just use the same technology that they used in 1969 ?

    Smith says : ‘ We must solve these challenges (ie: protection of the astronauts against the deadly radiation) BEFORE we put people though this region of space ‘.

    WHAT is it about this statement that you do not understand Nemesis ???

    You came back with an infantile response about there being a certain ‘ safe passage route ‘ where the Van Allen radiation was minimal .

    Let’s get this straight .

    There’s an ex-copper living out Bondi way (likely a probationary constable who was kicked out for corruption before getting his first stripe ), who also served a stint in the IDF ( before getting a dishonourable discharge for cowardice after throwing away his weapon & running back into the Negev desert at the first hint of Hezbollah Freedom fighters ) , who KNOWS a safe passage route through the Van Allen Belts YET …… a NASA engineer does not ???

    Do you wonder why some GS readers side with me some-of-the-time ? ( More than a few , like Ned & Aussiemal to name just two, are people I have enormous respect for , even though we don’t always agree on every issue .) .

    Nemesis , you really have to lift your game & work a bit harder on your disinformation campaign .

    Your Mossad handlers will not be pleased .

    • Truth – I have given you that NASA probes detected non-life threatening radiation levels in the minimum areas of the Van Allen Belt, .39 rad to be exact, which is less than normal background radiation.

      There was no danger to the Apollo Astronauts.

      But you choose disinformation videos to rely on!

      Look up Richard C. Hoagland and his view of those Moon landings. He was a contractor who worked for NASA at the time of those landings. Then listen as he explains how NASA no longer is the space agency it once was.

      But you keep on digging that hole!

  36. Nemesis , in relation to your statements that I ‘obfuscate when I run out of ammo because I lack in-depth research ‘ AND that I seek allies on Gumshoe to cover for my insecurity that engenders my bullying tactics ‘ AND that ‘ I’m a VERY manipulative and shallow person ‘ , I have no response.

    You’ve winded me & I’m gasping for air as I write this. ( Someone get me a ventilator – I think I have COVID 9/11 – the one developed by the same Mossad hit team that brought down the Twin Towers in a controlled demolition ) .

    You’ve struck some MORTAL blows with those statements & I don’t think I’ll ever be able to recover .

    This is it fellow Gumshoer’s , this is the END for me.

    Hang on, let’s put that on hold for a second. I feel hungry & I’m going to grab a sandwich.

    Where’s the remote control ? I wonder what’s on the telly .

  37. BTW Dee , I’ve been repeatedly playing the African Zulu Drummer audio you posted on Saturday night.

    I can’t get enough of it . An absolute treat .

  38. …. I spelled magnanimous wrong in an earlier post .

    Just goes to show, it can happen to the worst of us ( based on a character reference from Nemesis ) .

    By the way Nem , I’d love to meet Xi Xinping . I would definitely say Hi to him ( on your behalf) if I were lucky enough to meet him .

  41. Ned , your bank hold-up analogy is an excellent one & enough to demonstrate that Nemesis doesn’t have a leg to stand on .

    It also explains why Nemesis never rose beyond the level of probationary constable – before being kicked out of the force dishonourably .

    • Thankyou.
      I let him go play his hand and I have been sitting on it for awhile awaiting for the right time.
      I needed something so simple, for readers to use common sense and understand clearly how ridiculous he has been for years on gs.
      The opportunity arose after he claimed some time ago that he was a copper and I had to wait a bit. I have cross examined enough coppers to realise that they have their own agendas….. but usually to get someone convicted not assist and let criminals escape justice.
      It has been the least I can do for Joe Meadors and the USS Liberty Association seeking justice for the USS Liberty victims.
      As for his departure from the Police Force I have no idea.

  42. Nemesis at it again with the oft repeated : ‘ We still don’t know the WHY of the incident (USS Liberty unprovoked & cowardly attack on non-combat personnel ) ‘.

    He says if we knew WHY it occurred then we could tackle the WHO part .

    I’ve explained to him the WHY before but his absorption rate is somewhat lacking.

    Even Vision-impaired Victor can see the WHY & the WHO of this heinous crime .

    Once again.

    Let me spell it out. It was a F.A.L.S.E F.L.A.G .

    Get it ? Just like another Israeli government sponsored criminal act – the 9/11 attacks .

    How do we know this ?

    In the official Israeli government response & apology they SAID we thought it was an Egyptian military ship / transport & mistakenly attacked it ( even though they the IDF had been flying sorties of the ship for MANY hours prior to the attack & earlier aircraft had also identified this to be an American vessel ) .

    That was the plan – sink the Liberty with no survivors , blame it on Egypt & get the U.S to enter the war on Israel’s side.

    ( There are audio recordings of the actual Israeli pilots conducting the attack informing their base command that this is clearly an American marked vessel flying an American flag that they have been instructed to attack.
    The pilot asks base again to re-confirm the orders & confirmation is given ) .

    Blame the sinking on a 3rd party ( Egypt ) & get the U.S to launch a nuclear retaliatory strike against Cairo ( which LBJ was well on the way to doing before calling it off at the last moment ).

    Cui Bono – who benefits ?

    Of course the Israeli’s benefit by the instant annihilation of the chief threat to their hegemony in the Middle East ( Egypt ).

    • Truth – you do not have the facts so you know nothing about that incident except for the bullshit narrative and victim statements – everything else is based on what you choose to believe not what you actually have learned!

      • Nemisis,
        You are going to far.
        You referred to ‘ …. bullshit narrative and victim statements’’
        At least you acknowledge ‘victims’
        Son, you are losing it. I have just previously sent Joe Meadors a link to this article suggesting he send it on to ‘victims, if he desires noting your modus.
        I will send again a update on your attitude and this time seek if he wishes on behalf of the Liberty association to f you. and the lies and obfuscations promoted as an attempt to defeat the course of justice.
        Sorry, (?) I mostly agree with you on many matters, but I cannot sit back and enable the USS Liberty mass murders to be ignored.
        You may not want me as a barrister, granted, I would not be able to appear for You and your agenda. I have another client, be it pro bono.
        Tell Tel A Viv that they have a problem. And your Are it with the Jewish News paper, ABC Faine, the Sydney Institute, ( comment in Jan 2014? In the smh) the Jewish board of whatever (letter in the Smh about Jan 2014) and Malcolm Fraser’s interview with Dee.
        You have gone too far! Probably in desperation, but that is a matter for you and your presumed controllers.

        • Just to clarify.
          I have relied on memory re dates but a measure of time is based upon the date of Malcolm Fraser’s phone interview with jonathon Faine of our billion dollar ABC and the new year following when in a following January some Sydney institute spiv (who finances the Sydney Institute?) referred to Fraser, ( re his views expressed to Faine) ) as losing it.
          The broad obfuscation and attempts to protect mass murderers is a product of abominable conspiracy to defeat the course of justice for the Liberty ‘victims’.
          With competent research my memory will be substantial and corroborated.
          So Nemesis want to continue?
          Want to take me on with your Israel interests further with your bs and protection of war criminals.
          Been fun, I have been sitting on you and your running dogs with amusement and to expose your agenda for justice for the Liberty victims.
          😜😜😜

        • Ned – why should I be interested in what traitor Fraser had to say about that incident?

          And now you turn to intimidation and threats in order to get your point of view across and for me to desist in providing what I consider to be wholly relevant to this issue?

          If you are that kind of a person, then I say, bring it on!

          You really must be desperate to keep your one eyed view of the incident from becoming compromized.

          And your assumptions of what I am about has gone way beyond the pale.

          While you choose to ignore the WHY Israel was forced to attack the Liberty?

          And I promote the WHY because the WHY will expose WHO is really to blame.

          Has it never occurred to you that Israel may have actually been defending its military operations from being exposed to an enemy army that in numbers threatened to overwhelm Israel because the Liberty was relaying the Israeli army’s moves onto Cairo, via London – part of Five Eyes?

          Do you understand anything at all about ‘Five Eyes’?

          I put it to you: Would not that action, when discovered by the Israeli’s soon be realized as a betrayal by a trusted ally that would then cause the reaction that has now come to be known as the USS Liberty Incident?

          And if the future release from the NSA of the still secret documents on that incident prove the above to be accurate, then who is really to blame for Israel’s part in defending itself from being over run by a cut throat Arab army, that upon invading Israel would have spared no one?

          Basing your case on what the survivors of that incident could tell you and verify in court ,would be no guarantee of a final determination for exposing the wrongdoer, who in your view is the wrongdoer, if the wrongdoer may have been forced into defending itself against betrayal by an ally.

          Yes, Israel attacked the Liberty and killed and maimed many of its crew. But if the attack was a matter of self-defence, then the blame must lead in another direction.

          I have offered you a version of events that I believe would give pause to consider what I present as a possibility that should be explored, but you, and others, refuse to even look at it.

          That is not the kind of thinking a truth seeker or a barrister, should be engaged in as it denotes a certain bias.

          Like I keep telling anyone who is prepared to put up their view of that incident, no one, I repeat, NO ONE interested in this incident has ALL the available evidence to come to any kind of conclusion about who to blame for that incident, and until the NSA is forced to release all documentation concerning that incident, then what anyone, including myself present as to blame, is pure speculation!

          Expand your thinking Ned.

  43. Ned , thanks for the heads-up on paedophiles being arrested . ( Yes, will be using DuckDuckGo – have abandoned using Google for searches & hope all GS readers are doing likewise ).

    Let’s say , for arguments sake , that paedophile arrests are somewhat up .

    That’s a good thing of course IF these are indeed genuine paedophiles ( & not , for example , just political agitators / whistle blowers who have been exposing the malfeasance of the Zio-cabal & have now been ‘ framed ‘ as paedophiles with phony evidence ) .

    I have no proof of that last statement I made – it’s just speculation.

    Of greater concern for me is : Are arrests being made of HIGH PROFILE miscreants that have seniority in the cabal ? eg: individuals that are known to have been associated with Epstein / inside U.S Congress – heeeeellllloooo Sen. Lindsey Graham ) ..

    ( refer to Graham Elwood video I posted a day or two ago that names 70 of these high profile Epstein associates – with ZERO arrests ).

    Anyway, speaking from an Australian perspective , the ONLY high profile paedo that they got was Cardinal Pell.

    Yet somehow he’s been UN-GOT in the interim – so ZERO to show for it from an Aussie standpoint. .

    Anyway Ned , I appreciate your input. I'll say no more until I've done my research on the matter .

    (ie: not focusing too much on how many people are CHARGED but more so on how many of those are actually successfully prosecuted & get lengthy custodial sentences – as many of those charged may go the way of Pell & serve a token custodial sentence & get released a few months down the track ).

    • Truth – High Court found 7 to 0 for Pell. An almost unheard of decision! Have you not considered that the Victorian government and police in particular, were largely responsible for that miscarriage of justice against Pell?

  44. Nemesis , I agree with your earlier comment that there was ‘ no danger to the Apollo astronauts ‘ .

    After all, not much can go wrong in low Earth orbit where they undoubtedly were for the entirety of their mission .

  45. Well said Ned et al – and thanks to Mr Jelly for providing the leverage to bring these truths to the fore and allowing others to participate in the Great Awakening.

    “… It [Israel] has meanwhile exploited the power of its formidable domestic lobby to bleed the U.S. Treasury of well over $100 billion in direct grants plus three times that much in terms of largely hidden trade and co-production arrangements approved by a subservient Congress and endorsed by a controlled media.

    In return, the United States has wound up with a “best friend and ally” that has spied on the U.S., stolen its technology, corrupted its government processes and lied consistently about its neighbors to create a casus belli so Americans can die in pointless wars rather than Israelis. The Lavon Affair and the attack on the U.S.S. Liberty reveal that Israel’s government will kill Americans when it suits them to do so, knowing full well that the sycophants in Washington and the Jewish dominated media will hardly whimper at the affront.

    Over the past three years Donald J. Trump has delivered on his promise to be the “best friend in Washington that Israel has ever had”. … ”

    Read on …

    Israel to Annex the United States – Philip Giraldi on Unz Review

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israel-to-annex-the-united-states/

    • Julius – that is utter hogwash. That you would rely on such rubbish just to get a point across, says much about your own kind of thinking.

  46. “… [Israel/Netanyahu] lied consistently about its neighbors to create a casus belli so Americans can die in pointless wars rather than Israelis.“

    Netanyahu Should be Investigated For Nuclear Weapons Tech Smuggling Before US Visit

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/poll-netanyahu-investigated-nuclear-weapons-tech-smuggling-us-visit/201721/

    Benjamin Netanyahu Smuggled 800 Nuclear Triggers (Krytrons) to Israel Out of the US
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/benjamin-netanyahu-smuggled-800-nuclear-triggers-krytrons-to-israel-out-of-the-us/

    We certainly are in a war against terror.

    What is it they recommend? – Never negotiate with terrorists.

  47. Excellent points Fish .

    No sensible person could refute it .

    Phil Giraldi , alongside Ray McGovern , are the two most respected ex-CIA white hats in a generation .

    That article , sourced from the Unz Review , is edited by former candidate for governor of California & universally respected businessman & commentator , the Jewish Ron Unz .

    Few individuals would risk their reputation & critique an article sourced from the Unz Review, such is the high standard of fact checked material being published there ( especially if its an article penned by Phil Giraldi ) .

    Then again, some individuals have a reputation that’s already in tatters – so nothing to lose by labelling things as ‘ hogwash ‘ .

    • Truth – I keep telling you that every country has its own Deep State – but you just avoid that real life problem for every country that has a Central Bank in order to pursue your own agenda.

      Such is your one eyed views as displayed on this site.

  48. In an earlier post , Nemesis writes : ‘ Why should I be interested in what traitor Fraser has to say about the [USS Liberty] incident ? ‘ .

    Let’s dig deeper into that statement.

    Fraser , a former Australian P.M , had NO DOG IN THE RACE when commenting on an incident involving the U.S & Israel .

    Obviously , if we were to get the opinions of a Yank or a Talmudic Jew , naturally we’d expect there to be some bias.

    That’s why the opinion of an OBJECTIVE 3RD PARTY is likely to be extremely CREDIBLE .

    More importantly though , how is that Fraser , commenting on an incident that does not involve Australians & has no geo-strategic or political / trade consequences for Australia , HOW can this possibly be construed as traitorous to Australia ?

    Of course, if one were an indoctrinated rabid-Zionist who EXPECTED a leader of a western country to abide by his or her PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE to Israel ( the one they signed in a back-room ceremony – like the one former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney said the Jewish Lobby tried to intimidate her into signing ) , then one could perfectly understand Nemesis’ rage at seeing a Zio-puppet renege on an agreement.

    In Nemesis’ mind this would verge on ‘ traitorous ‘ .

    So Nemesis, we’re all waiting to hear your explanation.

    HOW are Fraser’s statements traitorous to Australia ??

    • Truth asks, ‘How are Fraser’s statements traitorous to Australia??’

      What you fail to ask is why I consider Fraser as just Australian another traitor?

      And it has nothing whatsoever to do with your flight of fancy!

  49. Traitor = One who aids & abets another country / entity in direct conflict with the interests of his own country .

    Fraser did none of those things in speaking truthfully about the treacherous Israeli actions that day in June , 1967.

    Nemesis , the Gumshoe readers ALREADY know who you are.

    We KNOW you have no loyalty to Australia whatsoever . You claim you are in Bondi & you may well be stationed there temporarily as a Mossad operative ( officially part of the Israeli Embassy diplomatic entourage ).

    OR , more likely , you’re working out of your little office in Herzliya .

    Come out & say it – be honest for once .

    There will be no consequences , I’m sure . If you come out I’m certain that Dee would not ban you from posting comments in future.

    If she did, I would campaign to have to you re-instated.

    NOT because I like your subversive output of disinformation . But because I want to know , coming straight from the horses mouth , the opinions of the destabiisers of the western world .

    I want to know your agenda & your justifications for it .

    OK, tell us WHY you consider Fraser to be just another Australian traitor.

    THEN, tell us to WHOM he has been a traitor .

    We’re waiting .

    • Truth – you certainly have a wild imagination when it comes to ‘assessing’ those folk who may hold a different view to some subjects that you do.

      When one gets to know your ‘personality’ as is often displayed within your comments, it soon becomes obvious as to what a very presumptuous person you are.

      But not only are you presumptuous, you also skip relevant, and sometimes personal details given to you that would verify I am who I claim to be.

      For instance I have given you my Australian Army service number and battalion location of where I was stationed – they are easily checked as to authenticity.

      I have also given you my NSW police registered number – again, easily verified.

      But you chose to provide nothing personal concerning yourself when I questioned you as to whether you would reply in kind.

      If Dee requested that I cease commenting on this site – then that would be the last that you, or anyone else on this site would hear from me.

      As I have stated previously, I do not visit open forums just to become part of an echo chamber that you, and some others, seem to prefer. No one learns anything in an echo chamber!

      I do believe that you would appreciate that, but then you tend to let your biases rule your critical thinking whenever I may put up alternative opinion, but not to be confrontational, as you may think it to be, but to make people think.

      And if that the thinking process gets activated to push the seeker of truth into doing thorough research, then the world becomes a little more saner in my opinion.

      You, Ned and some others, have given yourselves over to a certain narrative concerning the Liberty Incident and without garnering all the facts – a fools errand if ever I saw one – and that, when one considers what is available as ‘research’, is based in pure speculation as to WHO should shoulder the blame for that incident.

      One cannot prosecute if one does not have the true offender to accuse.

      But a problem always with theories is that sometimes the scenario’s offered up can become a cause celebre where theory becomes fact and fact becomes theory. Those who have offered their own take on the Liberty incident have come to see what they believe they know about that incident as more than just speculation. They have made the speculation as to WHO should shoulder the blame, as inviolable. And Heaven help those if they may offer a more plausible, and as yet still unproven theory, but is a theory that actually answers more questions than all the other inviolable theories tend to generate.

      For anyone to close their mind without having all the evidence available on which to come to a logical and irrefutable conclusion is not only wrong, it goes against the seeking of truth on which to base the concept of justice.

      As to that traitor Fraser. Who involved himself in the deliberate dismantling of South Africa?

      Who involved himself in introducing the destructive to Australian culture, the concept of multiculturalism and political correctness? And who, even declining his chief advisor’s advice, opened the gates to Muslim immigration?

  50. OK Nemesis , you gave us ‘ an ‘ Army service number a NSW Police number ?

    Now what ?

    I’m not Peter Cosgrove & have not been granted security clearance to verify your alleged service history.

    Why not throw in your Mickey Mouse club membership number as well ?

    NONE of these prove your loyalty ( or disloyalty ) to Australia .

    I don’t speak for Dee so it was wrong of me to even suggest it but I would be very , VERY surprised if she even considered barring your access to the site , in the event that you decided to come clean & tell the world that you’re a Mossad operative / sayanim .

    As I said , I for one would campaign to have you remain – not that I get any intellectual stimulation from your displays of loyalty to another nation over that of your present ( possibly temporary ? ) residence.

    Because, in the event that you chose to admit your previous malevolent ways , it would suggest to me ( & possibly others here ) that you felt some remorse & might well seek to atone for your previous efforts at destabilising Australia’s sovereignty by working for a foreign entity .

    • Truth – I have given you all that I desire to give to you as regards to who I am. Nothing that I have put to you is dishonest or misleading in any way, but you choose to keep your own background and agenda to yourself, so I am past giving you anything further.

      So you can keep on slandering away as you like to do!

      And if you’re too lazy to investigate what I have given you, then that is your problem, not mine! Instead you continue to demand from me that I prove to you exactly who I am so as to satisfy your inner fascist leaning, while giving nothing about yourself in return!

      You, are reflecting onto me, exactly what you are!

      I can’t help, that what is put in front of you, you then choose to ignore – that’s your choice to do so. But you have no authority to demand from me what you choose to hide from me.

      And to continue to hammer my loyalty to this country has gone well past an inquisitive stage and has now become harassment being hammered by you to the point of deliberately insulting me, and simply because I choose to defend what you are obviously against.

      Defending a point of view does not make one part of those being defended.

      Your observational skills, biases and intolerance for other’s views, as expressed in your comments. and as I have proven to myself from your responses, shows me that you are not a willing candidate for change from that which you have chosen to believe, when there is still so much ‘unchartered waters’ out there that still needs exploring.

      You have proven to me that you ain’t no explorer for the Truth!

      And that you cannot accept me for whom I am, is quite simply, not my problem!

      If you cannot stay on course with a subject and choose to veer off into fantasy land to attack my integrity and patriotism, then do not expect any responses from me if you choose to go down that path!

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