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FEMA and NIST 9/11 Investigators Victims of Mind Manipulation?

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Building 7 came down in an almost perfect unencumbered collapse, falling for some time in free fall. There were a few fires on the north side but many of these had burned out by 5.20 pm. After the penthouse ‘went’, there was a kink, then the skyscraper just DROPPED – dropped without resistance and intact -and piled onto its own footprint (so to speak). The building (which Larry Silverstein said was “pulled”) looked like the most expert and perfect demolition. 

7-building-collapse

The engineering experts from NIST (and FEMA) claimed the collapse was due to one failing column on the 13th floor – and have the computer modelling to prove it. So, when I was alerted that one of the FEMA investigating team was now living in Melbourne, I jumped at the opportunity to meet him.

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Professor Jonathan Barnett (above) agreed to meet me in a coffee shop. I found him to be surprisingly affable for a professor in engineering, and very open. I looked forward to a feisty debate on Building 7 and its collapse with a guy that is obviously smart, but the hour and a half discussion almost drove me nuts, and left with this sinking feeling: Why could this expert not see what I think a seven year old child could see?  It was later that night I concluded that the investigating teams – these extraordinary experts – had gone through some kind of mind or thought manipulation.

Mind Manipulation?

 

As an engineering expert and fire specialist, Barnett was a (volunteer) consultant and group leader for one of the investigating teams for FEMA (and later for NIST). They were looking into the cause of the three World Trade Center building collapses. After much deliberation ‘they’ concluded that building 7 was brought down by fires.

The fires were said to expand floor beams, which pushed a girder off its seat, precipitating multiple floor failures, which left column 79 unsupported and it buckled, which then dragged floors 14 to the roof downward.  Then a north to south floor failure commenced, which propagated to the west.  When most of the floors had fallen, the exterior was essentially an empty shell and it collapsed straight down, at free-fall acceleration.

Barnett said several times that the group had no agenda – and that it is no conspiracy. They were “the best minds in the country” coming together to investigate causation. During our discussion, I did feel at a disadvantage by not having an engineering degree and by his catalog of technical terms – but I noticed Barnett was not up to speed with facts outside his specific scope. Never the less, he was convinced that no explosives were used. He insisted the collapse was a result of the most uniquely unusual (poor) design; that the sulfur from the drywall was the cause of the ‘furnace-like corrosion’ of the beams (see picture below and read counter to this here) and that the computer modelling proves the fire theory correct.  

gross with b7John Gross with a ‘corroded’ BLD 7 beam.

Barnett and I went around in circles, but he could not explain how if one column collapses – it immediately and simultaneously causes failure across every other column in this highly constructed (high security) building. He also had no explanation of why there was a variation between the modelling and reality.

I have since sent Barnett the video comparison (above) – but I think Jonathan has had enough of my questions – even though he has given 99 talks and will soon have given his 100th.

The conundrum: Barnett insists the computer modelling is absolutely correct, but even a seven year old can see the two don’t match. The model also starts in two places not one, then  CRUMPLES IN as the building starts to drop. The actual building does NOT fold in. It remains perfectly symmetrical and intact.

At the end of the day, there are these options:

1. Jonathan Barnett et al are correct. The building was very poorly designed and an office fire developed at the very place of the disastrous design fault, which brought the 47-storey skyscraper down in a catastrophic and complete collapse. A world first. Conclusion: The computer modelling does not reflect this – and an immediate investigation is required into all unusual buildings across the globe. (NIST studies here)

2. Richard Gage et al are correct – and that some form of explosives or incendiaries were used. Their arguments are documented on their site ae911truth.org and I have posted their published inconsistencies with regard to NIST’s report. Conclusion: Building 7 looks like a perfect demolition; no other building has ever collapsed under this scenario, and as NIST’s computer modelling does not match reality, this provides a basis to investigate explosives.

3. Something else yet to be discovered brought Building 7 down (and as Barnett said to me, “prove to me it wasn’t Martians”). But for this article we will disregard this most improbable scenario.

But, what the hell is going on?

There were countless ‘experts’ hired to investigate causation – and they (allegedly) came to a consensus. Did they fixate on one theory – then created a model for the hypothesis? The computer model clearly does not correlate with reality, so how can these experts not see this?  I thus could only come to one conclusion – that Barnett and his engineering cohorts went through a natural – or planned –  THOUGHT manipulation process. I know this is an ‘bold’ proposition, but how can so many ‘experts’ not see or question the obvious.

1-vince 5pm_12floor_no fireThe no-fires in Building 7 – 5pm.

Waves of Manipulation

 

The onslaught of Arab blame via the media began almost immediately. By the time these teams started investigating, the anti-Bin Laden myth had solidified in people’s consciousness. Initially, only a very small percentage of the population could see logic through the cracks of the mainstream media spin.

So, with regard to Building 7: The natural mental inclination of this investigating team would automatically and subconsciously be swayed to finding the causation as the Arabs – and as the building was not hit by a plane – the only other possible explanation was FIRE. And if the team was lacking an exceptionally brave, vocal and questioning mind, the group/s would be more likely to be find a solution matching their already fixed (and collective) belief. If Gage et al are correct however, then this ‘demolition’ operation required enormous planning – and I think the planners would not have left the investigation up to a ‘chance’ outcome.

It is likely then, that someone knowledgeable in mind control quickly ‘instructed‘ and ‘infected’ the thought processes of those experts so that their findings would arrive at a specific conclusion – regardless. And I believe that would have been easily done.

It is suspicious that these ‘best engineering minds’ do not interrogate the obvious: It looks like a demolition. Every live television reporter was reporting it as such. They apparently even had a demolition expert on the investigating team. But as Barnett said to me with great sincerity, “There was no need to investigate for explosives“. Why not?  It is like these groups were hypnotized or mentally instructed away from the obvious – and came up with the most unlikely and complex hypothesis.

Victim of Mind Alteration?

 

I used to think these investigators must secretly believe one view – and project the official theory (maybe some do). But Barnett firmly believes fire as the cause, and that drywall created the furnace conditions. I am now convinced that Barnett is a VICTIM  of some form of mental manipulation or thought control.  It is 2014 and he cannot reconcile that the modelling does NOT match real collapse – and it doesn’t make sense when it takes just ten seconds to see there is a mismatch. Barnett was very open to meet me (and I thank him for that), but it seems he does not want to continue the debate. I think maybe his conscious believes that fires caused that anomaly, but this is challenging his subconscious.

The skeptics reading this will say: “But you could be mind manipulated to believe in a conspiracy”. The answer is simple. It looks like a demolition – so investigate for a possible demolition scenario. But the teams abandoned due diligence and never investigated for ‘explosives’. Barnett said to me “There was no need to“. It was on the white board – but they just rubbed off the obvious. This is equivalent to the LAPD looking down at a murder victim and saying: “Those look like bullet holes – but there is only a knife at the scene. Okay, as we don’t see a gun – lets work out how that sharp knife could have made these round puncture wounds”.

I therefore suggest that FEMA and NIST investigators were mind manipulated to be irrationally negligent. 

It seems this mind manipulation business all a bit ‘unbelievable‘. But you only need watch some of Derren Brown, for example, to realize that almost anything is possible, and with such EASE. Brown has demonstrated that he can program an assassin; make honest people steal, and much more. In the video clip above, I have a few extracts from Derren Brown’s shows, where he: makes a Londoner instantly forget where he is going; alters a girl’s sensory reality; and even REPLACE THE MEMORY of famous UK actor Simon Pegg. Astonishing.

We know that if the mainstream media repeat a lie often enough, the majority of people become to believe it as fact. And people don’t like their belief system to be questioned. What is even more astonishing is that some people suspect something terribly wrong with the official story, but they feel safer believing in a false truth (the lie). Society (mainly as a result of the media) have been mind manipulated into feeling safer by being lied to.

Fortunately there is a growing percentage of people that don’t believe the BLD 7 lie – and want an investigation to discover the truth. But what will it take for Barnett to snap out of his trance or hypnotic state and accept the model just not match reality? Once he and the other investigators accept the modelling is flawed, we can only then begin to discuss causation.

Society needs to understand that democracy is impossible without the revelation of truth?  And the 9/11 event reveals how easy it is to manipulate the minds of millions.

You just keep puffing in the definitive lie – like smoke to a beehive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNI-pDbfqSY

 

Architects and Engineers

Over 2,300 architects and engineers demand a new investigation. One of their videos below.

 

 ae911truth.org have investigated and documented the inconsistencies and ommissions from the NIST report:

A summary here:

  • OMISSION OF GIRDER STIFFENERS SHOWN ON FRANKEL DRAWING #9114
  • OMISSION OF THREE LATERAL SUPPORT BEAMS ON THE 13TH FLOOR G3005 BEAM
  • WTC 7 COLLAPSE AT FREE-FALL ACCELERATION IS NOT EXPLAINED
  • VIDEOS OF THE COLLAPSE OF WTC 7 BETRAY NIST’S COMPUTER MODEL
  • CLAIMS OF INVESTIGATING CONTROLLED DEMOLITION WITHOUT TESTING FOR EXPLOSIVE RESIDUES
  • CHANGES OF STATEMENTS ON COMPOSITE BEAMS AND SHEAR STUD USE BETWEEN DRAFTS
  • REFUSING OF FOIA REQUESTS

ALL THREE BUILDINGS

  • NEGLIGENCE IN SALVAGING STEEL
  • IGNORING THE RESULTS OF FEMA 403, APPENDIX C
  • INVOLVEMENT IN NOT SAVING STEEL FOR INVESTIGATION
  • FIRE SIMULATIONS AND DURATIONS ARE EXAGGERATED
  • NO DISCUSSION OF THE MOLTEN METAL FOUND IN THE RUBBLE OF THE THREE COLLAPSED BUILDINGS.
  • REFUSAL TO TEST FOR EXPLOSIVE RESIDUE
  • FAILURE TO FOLLOW STANDARD FIRE INVESTIGATION PROTOCOL

THE TWIN TOWERS

  • STRIPPING OF THE FIRE PROOFING IS EXAGGERATED
  • PRE-COLLAPSE STEEL TEMPERATURES ARE EXAGGERATED
  • TESTED FLOOR ASSEMBLIES DID NOT FAIL
  • INITIATION OF COLLAPSE – “INWARD BOWING” WAS INDUCED ARTIFICIALLY
  • COLUMN STRESS DUE TO LOAD REDISTRIBUTION IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO CAUSE FAILURE
  • NO EXPLANATION GIVEN FOR HORIZONTAL PROPAGATION OF COLLAPSE
  • WTC 1 TILT OCCURRED AFTER SYMMETRICAL COLLAPSE FOR AT LEAST TWO STORIES
  • NO JOLT – CONTINUOUS ACCELERATION OF COLLAPSE WAS IGNORED
  • NO PILE DRIVER IS OBSERVED IN VIDEOS
  • COLUMN LOADS WERE CALCULATED FOR WORST CASE, NOT ACTUAL IN-SERVICE LOADS
  • MOLTEN METAL OBSERVED POURING OUT OF THE CORNER OF WTC 2 REMAINS UNRESOLVED

 

191 COMMENTS

  2. The video showing .side by side. the reality and the NIST theory of the ‘collapse’ of building No 7 speaks for itself and the frustration with the NIST modelling is well grounded. There are proceedings by the AE’s to make NIST produce the basis of their computer modeling and then we shall see; ‘Garbage in garbage out’, otherwise, they had no reason to not disclose the basis of their ‘modelling’.
    This has been the case for years, but some will not see or hear reality no matter how much is placed before them. Denial is common place, many a parent or spouse will not accept that they have a criiminlal child or cheating spouse despite everyone else recognising the reality.
    The car crash and death of Danny Devenko is supect as he was one of the original demolition experts, (25 years) who when looking at the video for the first time of No 7 ‘collapsing’ said; to the effect: ‘Sure thing the building (7) was brought down by explosives,,,…those boys knew what they were doing’.
    One hilarious reported comment from some NIST spokesman is to the effect, re towers one and two; ‘Explosives/?No we did not look for signs of explosives, why look for something that is not there?’ (Fair Dinkum!!!)
    Then there is that Goss felllow who on video in reply to a question, denied any sign of molten steel was present; “Molten steel? I did not see any’. Give us a break NIST. Just speak to the firemen (firefighters) who appear on video describing “….molten steel running like a channel in a steel mill…”
    As for mind control, it is possible, but I know nothing of it other than in the film “the Manchurian Candidate’ from 1963 with Frank Sinatra, as one of the leads and from a visiting hypnotist who had some of the local town jerks acting like monkeys! Later when he did the whole hall, and then had to ‘dehypmotise’ them, had to go into the audience and fix up those who did not respond to the general clearance firstly attempted. Hard to get so many decent locals in a small town to be conspiring with a visiting showman……eh ,Johhny?
    Denial is common, some think the world and the inhabitants have been around for billions of years but we all know that it turned up in 6 days about 3,000 – 5,000 BC, don’t we Johnny?
    As for ‘thought control’! Well, need I say anything, just read and see the mass media and recognise the affect on the populace and the results, exemplified presently in the Gulf regions.
    Time to turn off the ‘chief mind controller’; the television set and bin the mass media press……………..if you do not have a bird cage!

        • “Ned marked Dannies car accident suspicious”
          and to you that means he is saying he was involved in official investigations.

          what makes you think you can get away with such a special level of stupity such as that and not be called out on it?

          there are good reasons why polls show the majority of people support a proper investigation into 9/11, 13 years, and still no independent, transparent, unfetterred investigation.

          heres 50 cents lumpen, go rent a clue, and might i suggest you refrain from making yourself looking even more ridiculous than you have already, by not posting again until you have something of substance to support the official account of 9/11, you might also wish to share it with the government, as they still have nothing to support their impossible conspiracy theory.

          • Hey @ drinkthem:
            This is a good one you come up with:
            “why polls show the majority of people support ”

            So if a majority of people believe that their stupid God exists than he/she actually exist.

            Fine evidence.

        • “So if a majority of people believe that their stupid God exists than he/she actually exist.”

          wow – you really are “FLAUD” (sic)

          youre right, the polls dont prove god exists, or that the official account is BS ( science does that ) but what the polls do prove, is a majority of people that find it not unreasonable to finally hold a proper investigation.

          youre not a very good troll are you.. ?
          your comprehension difficulties and your insipid arguments – cant you please try a little harder? how can we make you look idiotic when you do all the work yourself? its not fair.

      • If you are referring to Damny, I only know of his comet re building 7 and that is on video record when he was first informed of building 7 and watched the video of 7 ‘collapsing’. To my knowledge he was not involved with any formal investigation of any aspect of 911.

      • No I did not post anything. Barnett did agree that material was “going up” in the 1 and 2 collapses. This he prescribes to kinetic energy – not explosives. But not enough time – and in not enough detail to report on that. We also debated the logic of the ‘fireball’ finding its way into the stairwell and then down the stairwell to blow out the entire north tower lobby. He had an explanation for this which made sense to him but does not make sense to me – but never had time to go into that in detail.

        • What DOES make sense to you anyway ?

          Maybe you should answer that question first before you start looking for the truth.

          Do you really look to the events of 9/11 with an open mind or is your mind already set up ?

          Don’t take me wrong on this but you’ve had the opportunity to talk to one of the leading engineers. You should be proud of that.

          But please !!! All you have to say in your defense is that the guy must have been brainwashed just because he doesn’t agree with you.

          So, basically, these are the facts :

          Dalia Mae (no structural engineering knowledge whatsoever) has a discussion with Jonathan Barnett (who has some basic engineering experience I guess) and they don’t agree on how the buildings could have collapsed.

          Conclusion :

          The one WITH engineering skills tells to the other person that buildings can collapse due to fire.

          The one WITHOUT engineering skills tells the other person that he must have been brainwashed.

          How I wished that I could have attented this meeting.

          BTW, did you tell Mr. Barnett that he has been brainwashed according to you ? Or didn’t you have the balls to do that ?
          Have you been so polite to inform Mr. Barnet that you were going to write about your discussion on this blog ?

  3. A simpler explanation, he is still giving talks, must be how he makes his money and he is simply an unconscionable liar, proven by the fact he has no explanation for the instantaneous, simultaneous removal of the massive amount of support needed for the observed free fall acceleration. A shrug of the shoulders, theres your answer. Some expert.

      • I did like the video with the experiments done on the train etc, a bit like hypnotism, (or jedi mind trick – these are not the drones youre looking for ) but I think, if i was some sort of professional, if something like that had been done to me, after a few years, and constant re examination and discussion with others, something would say inside me, somethings not right. Maybe it would wear off, maybe not.

        “all just abandoning sense. Amazing” – It is hard to believe, that so called experts could be so devoid of a functioning cognisant ability, in relation to such incompatabilities, which simply makes it easier for me to believe they are complicit in the lie.

        Regardless if their story is because of deliberate lies, or some sort of manipulation, there is still no accounting for the impossibility, the lack of evidence, the implausability, the incredibility of the official account, and their total failure at a credible explanation beyond all reasonable doubt. Youd have to believe if an event occurred, how it was being described, the evidence would be irrefutable, and they wouldnt have to hide away the data they used to produce their modelling, so no one else would be able to disprove it, using the same data. Pity for them, they couldnt get it to look anything like real world events.

        • yes fairdinkum I used to believe as you did ” makes it easier for me to believe they are complicit in the lie”

          but after meeting him – he was genuinely in belief of nonsense and dislocated logic… ?????????????? go figure

  4. Dalia, thank you for combining a video on mind control with a discussion of a real event in history, 9-11. I’m afraid you might be able to do similar for any major event! Experts and reporters have been programmed left, right, and center.
    Why did Larry Silverstein exercise his bravado, saying “We pulled it”? (re Building 7) There’s no further need to “investigate” anything. Just haul him in for what’s known in the police trade as a 16-hour questioning. In fact Larry can be arrested under the Material Witness Act, a law that has been in force in the US since 1793. It calls for indefinite detention of anyone deemed to be carrying vital information, no guilt implied.
    I am not sure if those people get Miranda’s read to them, as they aren’t charged with any crime. I went to law school in Adelaide and we did not cover this stuff. Anybody know?

    • Pull it.
      Yeh right, it has only one meaning according to you.
      Have great fun with that one when handing it over to your new investigators, and b.t.w., you could earn 10 % of the value, so please, feel free to get it.

  5. Of course this is trite, mind control is applied from birth by religion, culture and race etc. Even some tribal support for their ‘team’ is akin to mind control.
    It may take decades for an individual to free oneself , but MC is as common as the politician’s and mass media’s lies.
    Maybe the Tower of Babel and the aftermath has a ring of truth?

  7. So the running model of NIST dous not show what we all observed.
    Let me take a good look at the model of the Nice Mr. Gage then, his carton boxes.
    Now there we have a truely fake model

  8. About the floor tests. You do know that they tested the floors with the fireproofing intact. So that’s not a fair point to mention from AE911.

    What is the standard fire investigation protocol btw?

  9. What do we know for certain?
    We know there was and continues to be a track record of cronyism and secrecy surrounding all the activity by authorities that we rely on to conduct open honest investigations of the 911 conspiracy.
    We know it was a conspiracy but just which conspirators fit the facts has yet to be legally examined and investigated but the information before us is rich with contradictions and questions that render the official conspiracy theory unbelievable in any logical or rational calculation.
    In the first instance no action to discover the truth regarding the conspirators was to be conducted.
    Eventually with reluctance the appointment of Kissinger to lead the 911 Commission left all political realists in no doubt the process was to be a cosmetic affair even though protesting family victims had him removed almost instantly.
    The Commission process was not remotely legally sound.
    The Muslim Conspiracy Theory has been adopted by pronouncement and mass publicity but it has never been tested under transparent legal process.
    Those who object to the abandonment of proper constituted behavior and speak out in protest meet a very positive campaign of regular sorcery.
    Poisonous agents and themes infiltrated the rational and valid demands for proper open investigations of all relevant individuals, groups and events connected to the crime.
    Because the modern sophisticated techniques of sorcery are not basic knowledge a large part of the efforts to challenge the integrity of the investigation was exhausted by disinformation and conflict that is the ABC of sorcery.
    By contaminating the protest against the absence of traditional legal process most of the public frustration was directed towards debating pointless pet theories instead of recognizing the one thing that should have and could have united any intelligent movement was the restoration of an accountable authentic legal process.
    Attitudes similar to that evidenced by El-Kemmo here should be identified as the pointless mischief of the court “jester”.
    We should of course be mindful to avoid falling for the tiny but effective device the “jester” plays on the crowd again and again and again and again.
    Our society should recognize proper constituted accountability over Government and limits on all power are not optional for a just happy peaceful society.
    This principle should be ferociously held and applied but false pride has squandered the hard fought wisdom leaving us the prospect of suffering the punishing discipline of transgressing wisdom proven through experience and results.
    If a society can be seduced into believing evil intentions, design and activities are a fantasy only contemplated by the mentally deficient it is an easy step to abandon the protective dimensions of our society against this very evil threat.

    • WELL SAID—
      “By contaminating the protest against the absence of traditional legal process most of the public frustration was directed towards debating pointless pet theories instead of recognizing the one thing that should have and could have united any intelligent movement was the restoration of an accountable authentic legal process”

  12. With regard to dieter45’s comment about whether danny jowenko thinks this or that – he wasn’t in the loop. so he’s irrelevant. The point is simple. B7 needs investigation—-and expanded to 1 and 2. We don’t need a discussion – or a distraction to Judy Wood.

    It is not necessary.

    There is ample evidence for a new investigation. If you came up with this additional info on any murder investigation it would be reopened. So Our politicians need only move forward to satisfy legal norm required from any murder investigation. Even if it has become a cold case. So don’t bother trying to debate the point dieter45. Lets the courts decide (if that is possible)

    If you are on this site and commenting, it means you have an interest to the outcome of 9/11 – Just call your politician and suggest a murder investigation so that we can stop this discussion.

    • Spot on, why should some care about a proper investigation to find the mass mrderers and those who have been giving profection, aid and comfort to those criminal mass murderers.
      To campaign to cover up a crime merely puts the anti 911 campaigners at the same risk to be faced by the killers. It is commonly referred to as an assesory after the fact. Sleep well assessories! But we are you nightmare and will be knocking at your window without warning. Sweet dreams.

    • I am not the one who brought up Jowenko… That was Ned. I simply replied. And why dismiss Judy? She has valid points. Did you call your politician?

      • Yes I have – and will be again and again. Im not dismissing anybody. But the time to debate the intricacies of which theory might be more accurate is actually beside the point. The official story is nonsense so let the murder investigation be opened.

        • Dalia, please do keep nagging your politicians and you’ll end up like Mr. Peter Vereecke (he has been a politician for years for a small city in Belgium and, in a way, it’s a friend of mine).

          I feel sorry for him that his search for truth has lead to a penalty of +/- € 3.000.

          He has been considered as a nutcase in some way (because he was harrassing other politicians. The subject for which he was convicted wasn’t 9/11 but chemtrails). He has written a report on chemtrails and it’s called “Agent Orange”. I think you’ll find a lot of valuable information in his report as you’re eyes are still closed.

          I’m sure you would appreciate a lot of Peter Vereecke’s work as you 2 seem to have the same points of interest.

          He also thinks that this world is being dominated by reptilians, NWO, chemtrails, HAARP, vaccinations and so on… Just because “they” want to depopulate the world to a point of 500 million people.

          I’m pretty sure that if you would have read his report 10 years ago, that you would agree with me that he is some kind of nut.
          Unfortunately, somewhere or somehow, you became more or less the same person as Peter Vereecke with the same stupid ideas about world domination.

          Hint : they still have a lot of work to do you know because world population is INcreasing day by day… and not DEcreasing.

          Basically, all those people at the NWO don’t know what they’re doing or they’re doing it the wrong way (that’s a fact).

          I’m so glad that people like you and Mr. Vereecke are there to face us with the “facts”.

          “Facts….”

          Sure baby

          LOL

      • In view of your reports on Wood’s exposure, we may all trust that you will inform your politician and honour us with a copy of your letter?
        After all, it is your obligation, if you see /hear something, report something.
        Let us know how you go.

      • Hello Dieter45,

        I see that you’re new here on this blog. Do you really think that Judy Wood’s theory is valid.

        I mean, I know her stuff but in my opinion it’s just another nutcase with some bizarre theory about 9/11.

        Don’t you know yet that most of her theories have been debunked already. Even Richard Gage from A&E doesn’t take this lady serious. How about that ?

        Do you disagree with Richard Gage and 2000 “engineers” ?

        I don’t think that Wood can rely on many scientists who support her theory (contrary to the nutcases who believe in Gage’s theory :-))

        But please enlight me and explain to me why I should believe your beloved Dr. Wood….

        • The proof is all over her website. I am not going to hold your hand to find the truth. Educate your self. Gage just yells hè has explosive evidence, but I have not seen any stred of it.

        • Always the same old sh*t with you people… Go visit this or that website and go educate yourself…

          Well, as I told you before, I HAVE visited her website and my conclusion was that she’s a nutcase.

          How about you going to educate yourself ? Don’t tell me that you’ve read the complete NIST report because obviously you don’t know what you’re talking about 🙂

          On the other hand, I do agree with your statement about Gage.

        • Why should I read a report I don’t understand. I am sure Judy has read it, and understood it’s full of shite. Even Gage has shown several video’s disproving NIST. He tours all over the world with his presentation.

        • Well that shows how ignorant you are. It’s a well known fact, that only a few families are powerful enough to pull that off and they happen to be right in the middle of the conspiracy.

        • @Dieter :
          Quote :
          “It’s a well known fact, that only a few families are powerful enough to pull that off and they happen to be right in the middle of the conspiracy.”

          I guess my family is involved as well then ?

          Can you also tell me to whom I should talk about a raise of my salary ?

          Thanks for your input on this one.

    • Hahahaha, that won’t work…

      Remember your own words : all courts have been bought.

      Damn, you’re one stupid woman, aren’t you ?

      When someone goes to court and loses the case, then you’ll say that courts have been bought…

      When you have a discussion with one of the leading engineers and he disagrees with you, then it means that he has been brainwashed ?

      Don’t you realize that no one can have a serious discussion with you ?

      Laughing my ass off over here…

      I’d like to welcome you to my world… but obviously it’s too soon for you. You know : It’s fun over here (in contrary to the truthers world) but in your case it’ll probably take some more years to find out about the truth.

      Sad but true…

  13. Hi Dalia,

    First of all I think it’s great that you had a meeting with Barnett. I wish that I had such a wonderfull oportunity to meet with one of the leading investigators.

    You know, when I, too, had my doubts about the buildings collapses, I also went to speak to someone who has high skills in engineering. To me, that was a very refreshing discussion as we went through the whole NIST report regarding building 7 (it took us +/- 8 hours).

    Our conclusion was rather simple : NIST was right about almost everything !

    Your conclusion after your talk with expert Barnett is that he must have been brainwashed…. 🙂

    So, that’s it then ?

    Millions and millions of engineers have been brainwashed according to you… What happened to those “engineers” from A&E.

    Dit “THEY” forget to brainwash them ?

    And if so, why can’t “THEY” brainwash them today… Making them tell to the people that they were wrong from the start ? Does Richard Gage have a chembuster in his backyard and is that the reason why he hasn’t yet been brainwashed ?

    You know : your conclusion isn’t worth a penny. If you still have some brains left in your head, it would be wise to acknowledge that.

    Come on girl : someone (an expert in engineering) doesn’t agree with you… hence the guy must have been brainwashed ????

    You must be joking, right ?

        • Thats just proof you have not checked out her site.

          Care to explain the perfectly round holes in the top of wtc6 for example? Or the burned out cars miles away from the buildings? Or the vaporizing sphere, shown in several youtube clips?

          Try to explain that away.

      • I must disagree with you Dieter45.

        I came to the conclusion that Dr. Wood is insane BECAUSE I’ve visited her website :-).

        Does Dr Wood explain why there were only “perfect” holes in the surrounding buildings of WTC 1, 2 and 7 ? Do you think that those holes were the result of missing their primary targets ? Please explain…

        You do know (I hope) that those burned out cars were towed away… Of course you don’t because that’s something Dr Wood doesn’t want you to know.

        Do you refer to the pyroclastic clouds when you talk about the vaporizing sphere. I’m sorry, but I’m not sure what you meant by that…

        *takes some chips and lays back for a while with a big smile on his face *

      • By the way, shouldn’t you be “asleep” by now. It’s 1.00 am in Australia….

        Just like truthers, I just love to awake people in the middle of the night and tell them to go asleep when it’s broad daylight 🙂

        • It’s weekend over here, so I got all the time in the world for trash like you! Don’t sleep much anyways, because i am being watched day and night. Suspicious van parked outside my house since a few weeks. Right after I started commenting on another blog, so I stay away from that site now….

  14. Dalia,

    Quote:
    “Did they fixate on one theory – then created a model for the hypothesis? The computer model clearly does not correlate with reality, so how can these experts not see this?”

    Wouldn’t you think that if they wanted to manipulate their computer model that it would look EXACTLY like the collapse as seen on camera ?

    Why would they do all the effort to make a model that doesn’t match the reality… ?

    Ow, let’s see… Because there are too many unknown parameters which could influence the progress of the collapse.

    NIST acknowledges that… But that just won’t do it for you, right ?

    Now, can you come up with a model of how a controlled demolition would have looked like ? And would that model fit the reality (using the controlled demolition software which is/was available ???

    Think hard about that one.

  16. Dalia, I’m very interested in your theory about brainwashing ALL those people who happen to disagree with YOU.

    How did “they” do that ?

    I know that there are some people on this planet who will agree with your ideas about 9/11, after all it’s a mad, mad world you know 🙂

    So, my guess is that those people weren’t brainwashed.

    Isn’t it funny that you’ve Always claimed that there’s a GROWING group of people who find the truth….

    That statement makes me think that this brainwashing thing of yours has only a temporarily effect :-))))

    Can you agree on that one… or will you invent some new theory ?

    I know… It’s hard for a thruther to beat logic but hey, give it your best shot 🙂

    • Xing Fu — you’re back again. I’m still waiting for a building 7 example by the way.
      What the article proposes is that the groups could have been ‘infected’.
      Maybe think “jury” – it is easy to infect a jury with one person to sway the others – that is why the process is somewhat rigourous.
      (and that is still not a perfect system)
      The television is the main form of thought manipulation…. keep pumping out propaganda—soon the masses are in belief.

        • @dieter45,
          “Check out Judy Wood, she has a good explanation!”

          I did, but she has no examples either, and furthermore she assumes that the first X-ray shots missed their targets, now come on dieter, Mr. Spock and the Borg never miss.

        • @dieter45,

          Your Dr. Wood actually tells us that paper did not burn that day, and may I add that passportpaper douse not burn easily? so your doctor has no problem with the passport found on the ground? furthermore she photographed the same policecar twice on different locations and different times., So Mr. Spock and the Borg shot the same car twice?. but could not hit tower one in their first aim? They shot a hole in building 6? for practice or incompetance? What has your Judy have to say about that huh ?

      • Didn’t Barnett explain to you that you can’t compare the buildings to anything else?

        Because he explained it to someone else. This is what he said.

        “As far as collapse mechanisms, these buildings were unique. There were no other built like them, how can I give you an example of another failure in identical structures? However, when one looks at structural failures in fires in unprotected steel structures (which is what we really had as the fire proofing was knocked off by the impact of the aircraft), you find exactly this kind of failure. The literature abounds with examples, take a look at the last 40 years of the NFPA journal and in almost every edition you’ll find an example.”

        http://911-engineers.blogspot.nl/2007/04/professor-jonathan-r-barnett.html

        • dieter,
          “Didn’t Barnett explain to you that you can’t compare the buildings to anything else?”

          Nope, I find that one out for myself during the years.
          It is just that Dalia dous not buy that, according to her there is never a first time to anything.

    • “I know that there are some people on this planet who will agree with your ideas about 9/11”

      if you like to call – according to the polling – the majority of those polled, “some” then by all means go ahead, if it in any way eases your discomfort from maintaining a position with so few adherents remaining that you will soon not even qualify to be called a cult.

      “Isn’t it funny that you’ve Always claimed that there’s a GROWING group of people who find the truth….”

      still in denial eh? it is not hard to find links,

      http://rethink911.org/news/new-poll-finds-a-majority-of-canadians-side-with-ads-questioning-911/

      http://rethink911.org/news/reality-check-video-more-americans-are-rethinking-911/#pagecontent

      http://rethink911.org/news/new-poll-finds-most-americans-open-to-alternative-911-theories/

      and not one person with qualifications is willing to debate the people at ae911truth.org to claim thousands in prize money, if they can show the majority of the audience agrees with them after a debate.

      btw, gage and cardboard boxes, was not suppossed to be an acurate modelling of what happenned, it was a simple way to explain primary grade physics, the basics, to show the fundamental flaws in the official account. going by your comments here, it is not surprising you fail to comprehend the most basic of points.

        • No, not Well Said.
          You think you are with many but you are with few.
          You think to come out with astonishing stuff, we know of by 13 years. I see nothing new.
          You accuse the bad guyes of not peer reviewing, and yet you act exactly the same by banning those who disagree with you.
          You want to shut my mouth.
          That’s not good science.
          I can return with many IP’s from our satellites, so why bother.
          Have fun with your so called quest, the quest you make money on and say hi to Gage who takes 60.000 from his “foundation”.

          Have a Nice day

      • Sure, I’m the one who is in denial… Laughing my socks off…

        No really… I’m laughing my socks off.

        Let me make this clear to you :

        I’m laughing my socks off.

        Do you actually know what you’re talking about ?

        I’d like to hear from you the what is wrong with the NIST report… Assuming that you’ve read the NIST report.

        Take your time and be my guest..

        Dalia is not the only one who has done research.

        For some reason Dalia and I will never agree, although I have a very open mnd.

        I’m stll waiting for a model which proves that controlled demoltions were being used.

        One should think that the truth movement would be able to come up with such a model, after only 13 years.

        Bummer !!!!

      • I am sorry, but that’s some weird polling. The first two results have more than 100%.

        First result is 101%
        Second is 101%

        Very suspicious indeed!

      • Isnt it weird, that they did not show the onset of the collapse of WTC7 in their video? Talk about manipulation. I dont see the penthouse collapsing.

  17. Gooooood morning Auuuuuuustrilia. 🙂
    While you were asleep the Dutch went on to seek for proof against NIST, and here you have it, the Dutch are prime investigators.
    The name of the investigator is Rogier Hop, and @dalia, do not come up with his mind being altered becaus his mind was never right since he was borne. The man is banned on several social media for a reason, but hey, here is the proof he came up with, have fun: 🙂

  18. My shift is nearly done.
    I will note that the Aussies have the tendency to carefully avoid questions and remarks that do not fit into their theses, and have no theses at all. I will also note that they came up with nothing.
    Do not bother to destroy my file, because it is on our servers, in and outside our buildings, along with cloud computing, and I carry it with me, things that according to you, the Aussies, were not yet invented in 2001. According to you, one needs to blow up an empty building to just destroy a paper file. This one is hanged on the clipboard of our coffee corner.
    See Yah 

      • A very strange comment indeed El-Kammo. Yes there are a number of ways that people have been eliminated. But who is Illuminati? and is this a suggestion for someone? Maybe a threat? Strange comment indeed El-Kammo

        • Hmmm… I Always thought that your comments were strange.

          Strange indeed and based on no evidence whatsoever.

          Shall we close the case or are you willing to bring your evidence to a court of your choice.

  19. APOLOGIES TO OTHERS READING THIS BLOG – But EL-KAMMO and SEVERAL OTHERS are making a determined EFFORT to CLOG the THREADS with countless distraction comments. This is partly designed I’m sure to waste my time reading and responding. So I won’t be wasting my time. (I suspect he is being paid per comment post)

    • The “jester” relies on his assistants and childish device to incite the crowd but when left to perform to himself he begins to feel a bit naked and silly.

    • I accept your apologies.

      It was about time 🙂

      Nah, you’ll never apologize… I know it and you know it.

      For heavens sake, you had the opportunity to talk to one of the leading investigators !!!!

      And just because he doesn’t agree with you….

      brainwashed….

      LOL

      Let’s face it Dalia you don’t want to see what really happened.

      It’s kind of sad really.

      Do me one favour please, stop writing children books about stuff that you can’t even comprehend.

      • You’re classic XingFu – and excellent at wasting time. Re; you comment “Let’s face it Dalia you don’t want to see what really happened”…. I am going along with the many asking for an open investigation so I can see what really happened. YOU are the one who does not want to see that outcome. I am no longer replying to this constant distraction. And I will not be doing you any favours.

        • Which outcome Dalia ?

          To me, honestly it looks like you’ve already made up your mind.

          I think it’s great that you you’ve had your meeting with Barnett.

          But honestely why did you arrange this meeting with Barnett if you don’t want to hear what really happened ?

          I mean, you weren’t there… Barnett was….

          Should I have to believe you or Barnett ?

          It’s so f*cking easy for you to say that Barnett would have been brainwashed (and millions other engineers around the world).

          Do you really think that you’ll get a way with that ? Just by saying those people have been brainwashed ?

          You know, as Dieter already mentioned in the Dr. Wood’s theory I start to believe in this mind control thing.

          Maybe they missed out on the main targets… But they surely hit you right

          • Maybe read the article again: You skimming what I was saying XingFU. It looks like a demolition – but they never investigated for that. So thats the avenue required. It is so simple….. so painfully simple.
            Why would you try find a theory that a knife created round (bullet) wounds (in a murder investigation). First investigate to if there is a bullet lodged in the body before inventing the knife had a round blade. It is nonsense commenting back to you. Just come up with a similar event to b7 before we continue with this nonsense discussion.

          • For a ‘proper’ investigation!
            The same reason that; The-fore knowledge of Pear Harbour has been hidden, that we were told that Oswald was the one and only gunman, that the US liberty mass murders were covered up, that operation Northwoods was suggested, that operation Gladio murdered people in Europe, that the Lavon Affair occurred, that the Gulf of Tonkin lies led to millions dead in Vietnam, that Saddam had wmds and biological laboratories told by Powell to the UN has resulted in millions slaughtered, that CIA operative Tim Osman did 911 and on and on.
            How old are you lot? Ten? Go find out a bit about world events and how the public are deceived for the agendas of others and cringing running dog apologists provide comfort, aid and protection to those who carry out heinous crimes against humanity.
            [Thankyou,’Ms. McLachlan for your kind permission and approval of the comment as above, directed to dimwits and ignorant juveniles (:~} ]

    • Their obfuscations and detractions with inane juvenile banter is designed in the overall campaign to give aid, comfort and protection to the real murderers.
      On this case we need Simon Weisenthal and his centre to track down the murderers and their protection organisation, then ‘hang’ them.

    • The so called new investigation can never take place because chaps like dalia and gage do not want it. They want to go on forever to make money.
      I noted on this blog that:
      The courts are all bought, so why go to court.
      If the court is not bought the jury is brainwashed.
      Expert engineers need to shut up because they are brainwashed.
      Others are not yet awakende.

      There you have it.
      It’s all about making a living on 911

  22. Who is the victim of mind alteration?

    AE911Truth vs Dr. Judy Wood

    “When an honest man, honestly mistaken, comes face-to-face with undeniable and irrefutable truth, he is faced with one of two choices, he must either cease being mistaken or cease being honest.” – Amicus Solo (Latin for “a lone friend”)

    If Richard Gage is using AE911Ttruth’s funds to buy Dr. Wood’s book, and Richard Gage is suppressing Dr. Wood’s work, one must conclude that the prime directive of AE911Truth is to suppress the evidence. Mr. Gage cannot refute the overwhelming, conclusive, and indisputable evidence contained in Dr. Wood’s book but only misrepresent it (i.e. promote disinformation about it). Science is not determined by popular opinion, but a psyop is. Referring to the sum of 2+3 as “a view” or as “an opinion” or “a theory” is how cover-ups work. It creates doubt where there is no doubt. Humanity has awoken. If you are worthy and willing to open your eyes to the truth, read WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO? by Dr. Judy Wood.

    Richard Gage and other Liars for 9/11 Truth
    http://tinyurl.com/911liars

    Image of check from Richard Gage for Dr. Judy Wood Book
    http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa326/Jefffolkman/RichardGageCheckForDrJudyWoodBook_zps7cb14ab3.jpg

    FOR THOSE WHO ARE WORTHY AND WILLING TO FIND THE TRUTH, IT WILL ALWAYS FIND THEM.

    Form 990 ARCHITECTS & ENGINEERS FOR 9-11 TRUTH INC, Part I Summary, 1.) mission statement

    Our mission is to research, compile, and disseminate (some) scientific evidence relative to the destruction of the three World Trade Center skyscrapers, (not all 7, just 3 of the buildings) calling for a truly open and independent investigation and supporting others in the pursuit of justice. (Except Dr. Judy Wood)

    Form 990 ARCHITECTS & ENGINEERS FOR 9-11 TRUTH INC, Schedule A, Part II, Section A

    from 2008 to 2012 AE911Truth income was $1.365 million!!!

    http://pdfs.citizenaudit.org/2014_01_EO/26-1532493_990_201212.pdf

    If Mr. Gage was searching for the truth, then he would not be trying to deceive his supporters and the American people by claiming to present the best “scientific forensic evidence”, only to completely ignore the large sum of scientific forensic evidence that thermite does not explain. If a scientist or researcher only presented the evidence that supports their hypothesis while completely ignoring the evidence that countered their hypothesis, they could be stripped of their professional license or degree for presenting such an unscientific and biased fraction of the total sum of important physical evidence that demands consideration.

    Theory, speculation, and belief are not necessary to understand that a type of directed energy was used on 9/11, rather, only detailed study of the empirical evidence from 9/11 is necessary. Situations like this are rare in science, where there is so much empirical evidence that one can bypass theory and speculation to draw an irrefutable conclusion from the evidence. This also helps to illustrate a major difference between Dr. Judy Wood and other 9/11 researchers, as she did not start with theory or speculation and then begin researching to see if it was consistent with the evidence. Instead, Dr. Wood simply did what any objective, vigilant scientist would do, she gathered and studied as much of the empirical evidence from 9/11 as possible, assembling a monumental database of verifiable physical evidence that dwarfs the efforts of any other 9/11 “research”, including the unscientific ‘9/11 Commission Report’. After gathering and studying all of this important evidence, Dr. Wood arrived at the only logical, inescapable conclusion that explains all of this empirical evidence, a general category of weapon technology known as ‘directed energy weapons’ (DEW). It would be theory or speculation to go beyond that by trying to name a specific weapon technology or location, because that is not what the evidence allows us to irrefutably conclude. This is why the term is left as a general one, because that is the only logical, conclusive, and irrefutable conclusion that the evidence allows us to make.

    This download is the Foreword and book review of “WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?” by Eric Larsen, Professor Emeritus at John Jay College of Criminal Justice 1971 – 2006 (35 years), plus the Author’s Preface.

    http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/Where%20Did%20The%20Towers%20Go%20-%20Dr%20Judy%20Wood.pdf

    Those of us who have read Dr. Wood’s book can give at least 10 reasons that rule out the theory by “AE911trutherd” that welding material destroyed the WTC. How many can you list ? Hint: the bottom of page 45, the top of page 171, the diagrams on page 81 and 84, the diagram at the bottom of page 11, and of course pages 122 to 127. The list is endless, actually.

    By reading WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?, you know from the EVIDENCE that the Twin Towers turned to dust in mid-air never hitting the ground.

    >Bombs don’t do that.
    >Thermite does not do that.
    >Thermate does not do that.
    >Nano-enhanced thermite does not do that.
    >Nano-thermite does not do that.
    >New-and-improved super-duper mini-micro-nano thermite does not do that.
    >Firecrackers do not do that.
    >Fire does not do that.
    >Nukes do not do that.
    >Megga nukes do not do that.
    >Milli-nukes do not do that.
    >Mini-nukes do not do that.
    >Nano-nukes cannot do that.
    >A wrecking ball cannot do that.
    >A slingshot cannot do that.
    >Missiles cannot do that.

    We know this because we know those things above involve Kinetic Energy and/or Thermal Energy and we know that the “dustification” was done without Kinetic Energy and without Thermal Energy. That is, “dustification” was not done with high heat (Thermal Energy) nor with some form of Kinetic Energy (wrecking ball, projectile, gravity collapse). The building was not cooked to death nor was it beaten to death. So Kinetic Energy Weapons (KEW) did not destroy the buildings nor did Thermal Energy Weapons (TEW) destroy the buildings. But we know that Energy was Directed somehow (and controlled within fairly precise boundaries) to cause the building to turn to dust in mid air. That is, some kind of (cold) Directed Energy that was used as a weapon (cDEW) had to have done this. Energy was directed and manipulated within the material such that it came apart without involving high heat (fire, welding materials such as thermite) and without having something fly through the air and hit it (bullets, missile, bombs, wrecking ball, a giant hammer, or many micro hammers)

    If this technology can manipulate energy to do something like this, it can also be manipulated to provide us with “free energy” (i.e. “off the grid”). Simply by looking at the cover of Dr. Wood’s book you can realize there must be a technology that can do this. This is evidence that such technology does exist. This is evidence that a technology capable of providing “free energy” (“off the grid”) exists. The whole world witnessed this which means the whole world can know that “free-energy technology” exists. This realization will change the world. This is probably the biggest reason why there is so much effort spent misrepresenting, distorting, and suppressing Dr. Wood’s research.

    Those that choose to focus on hearsay, speculation, conspiracy theories, or unqualified opinions while ignoring irrefutable factual evidence by avoiding it is what keeps a cover-up in place. Diverting the public to arguing between the two false choices of “9/11 Truthers” verses “The Official 9/11 Conspiracy Theory” while ignoring the facts is classic perception management designed to hide and obscure the evidence. (Chanting “9/11 Was An Inside Job!” is equivalent to chanting “Yes To Fascism!”)

    Richard Gage is NOT a qualified forensic scientist. Dr. Judy Wood IS a qualified forensic scientist. AE911Truth is calling for a new investigation. This implies an admission that they are NOT qualified to conduct such an investigation of what happened. Otherwise, why are they calling for a new investigation instead of conducting one themselves — unless the intention is to knowingly distract its members and others away from the new investigation that has already been conducted? AE911Truth wants a new investigation? They already have one. It’s contained in a book called “WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?” Why is AE911Truth suppressing it? AE911Truth cannot lobby Congress. They are a 501( c )3 and are prohibited from lobbying Congress. Why didn’t AE911Truth submit their so-called “thermite evidence” to NIST? – Oh, that’s right. It’s a federal crime to defraud the government. Why hasn’t AE911Truth filed a Federal qui tam case? Because they haven’t blown the whistle on anything and they have no evidence and it is past the statute of limitation. So, why didn’t they support Dr. Wood’s Federal qui tam case that was filed instead of banning members who mentioned it? * — I guess they really didn’t want such a case to go forward. So they want “respect and compassion for all people” except for those named “Dr. Judy Wood.”

    AE911truth first opened their website about 3.5 weeks AFTER Dr. Wood submitted her Request for Corrections (RFC) to NIST. She was the first to submit an RFC that blew the whistle on the contractors for the NIST report. Can you say “damage control” ? Then she filed a federal qui tam case that could have blown this whole case wide open, including putting people under oath – if there were enough supporters. Guess what? It became a policy in AE911Truth to ban those who discussed the work of Dr. Wood in an honest manor. ** Since Richard Gage, founder & CEO of AE911truth, bought Dr. Wood’s book in the spring of 2011 and read it, he can no longer use “plausible deniability” as a defense. Mr. Gage is knowingly leading people away from the truth about 9/11 and using AE911Truth funds to accomplish this task. So leading people away from the truth must be the mission of AE911Truth. How else could he justify using AE911Truth funds to buy this book? Who funds AE911Truth? Donations through the donation drives on his site have dried up. However, donating creates a psychological hold on the donor and they are less likely to leave the organization or question Mr. Gage. Dr. Wood is a teacher and promotes independent thinking. Perhaps this is why she does not ask for donations on her website or conduct membership drives for a “truth club” to keep everyone in lockstep, where members are issued a list of talking points to focus on so that they don’t go looking for the truth. Dr. Wood is just one person. Richard Gage brags about having a large membership in lockstep with him. So why is he so concerned about just ONE person and radiates such anger at Dr. Wood? The truth is powerful and it emerges through independent thought.

    The scientific method, as it came into being during the Enlightenment period, is a method of thought known as empiricism or as the empirical method. Under the terms of empiricism, all conclusions are, must, and can be drawn from observable evidence and from observable evidence only. Evidence must precede any and every conclusion to be drawn from it. Then, if sound logic governs in the relationship between evidence and the conclusion drawn from it, that conclusion will be irrefutable

    Scientists, as all know or should know, proceed in their thinking not according to belief or desired outcome but according solely and only to what the empirical evidence they have gathered, studied, and observed allows them to conclude or makes it inevitable for them to conclude.

    This is why Dr. Wood’s work is irrefutable. She only presents evidence and an analysis of that evidence. There is no use for a theory in forensic science. Either you know something or you don’t. That is why those in charge of a cover up don’t want people to look at the evidence in Dr. Wood’s book. Dr. Wood does not ask you to believe her. She only wants you to believe yourself and think for yourself and look at the evidence yourself and not argue about opinions of theories of speculation of ideasŠ That is what keeps a cover up in place. Those of us who have read Dr. Wood’s book know this to be true.

    On 9/11 over a half mile of vertical building height, containing nearly 150 football fields of floor space, was reduced to a near-level field of dust and debris, where rescue workers walked horizontally or rappelled into empty caverns to look for survivors. How was this possible given the standard laws of engineering and physics? The 9/11 Commission Report bypassed this central issue, as did the report of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). Contrary to its stated objective of determining ‘why and how WTC 1 and WTC 2 collapsed,’ the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) made the stunning admission that it did not investigate how the towers fell. Neither the standard view that the Twin Towers collapsed from fire nor the standard opposition view that they were intentionally detonated by thermite explosives explains the evidence, nor do they follow the laws of engineering and physics. Dr. Wood left Clemson to research the 9/11 conundrum full time, and she has focused her research strictly on physical evidence and scientific principles. WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO? provides an understandable, credible, and photo-enhanced summary of Dr. Wood’s disturbing findings, which resulted in her lawsuit against the contractors of the NIST report.

    Dr. Judy Wood earned a Ph.D. Degree from Virginia Tech and is a former professor of mechanical engineering. She has research expertise in experimental stress analysis, structural mechanics, deformation analysis, materials characterization and materials engineering science. Her research has involved testing materials, including complex-material systems, in the area of photomechanics, or the use of optical and image-analysis methods to determine physical properties of materials and measure how materials respond to forces placed on them. Her area of expertise involves interferometry.

    She taught graduate and undergraduate engineering classes and has authored or co-authored over 60 peer-reviewed papers in her areas of expertise. In the time since 9/11/01, she has applied her expertise in materials science, image analysis and interferometry, to a forensic study of over 40,000 images, hundreds of video clips and a large volume of witness testimony pertaining to the destruction of the WTC complex. Dr. Wood has conducted a comprehensive forensic investigation of what physically happened to the World Trade Center site on 9/11. And, based on her analysis of the evidence she gathered, in 2007, she filed a federal qui tam case for science fraud against the contractors who contributed to the official NIST report about the destruction of the WTC. This case was filed in the US Supreme Court in Dec 2009. To this day, Dr. Wood’s investigation is the only comprehensive forensic investigation in the public domain.

    *Chapter 31. AE911 “Truth” and Other Sites Again Censor The Evidence 04 Apr 2010
    AE911 – Silently Deletes A Petition Signer (pages 297 to 300) of 9/11Finding the Truth – A Compilation of Articles by Andrew Johnson Focused around the research and evidence compiled by Dr. Judy Wood
    http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/9-11%20-%20Finding%20the%20Truth.pdf

    **In Appendix C, page 238, section C, (Refined searches) of Michael Armenia’s book, “Nanomanagement:The Disintegration of a Non-Profit Corporation”, the name “Judy Wood” is a search term used to disqualify a person’s affiliation with AE911Truth.
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/124871928/Nanomanagement-The-Disintegration-of-a-Non-Profit-Corporation

    Field Interference 013 AE911Truth: A Failure By Design

    We reported about Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth (ae911truth.org) in episode 16 of our audio reports. We worked for them as their systems administrators for almost two years. As a high-level administrator inside the organization, I witnessed a stunning degree of mismanagement and I was privy to everything; including the stuff that nobody was supposed to see.
    http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/590-the-shaky-moral-foundation-that-ae911truth-is-built-upon.html

    Richard Gage and AE911Truth sleep in the same bed with convicted sex offenders?

    Manuel (Manny) Badillo from the conference “Investigate Building 7: A Call to Reexamine the Most Important Event of Our Time,” held March 26, 2011

    https://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=80147

    US Marine John P DiMatale speaks at Rethink911 Times Square Event 9-11-13

    http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=65694

    Wake up sheeple. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Big Brother only has as much power as you grant him. Independent thought is powerful. After reading WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO? by Dr. Judy Wood, Charlie Pound of the U. K. produced the song WAKE UP THIS YOUR ALARM! Unless you enjoy being fleeced, leave the opinion herd and read Dr. Wood’s book too. It has been over 13 years since a secret technology was used to create terror and mass murder for the sake of imperialism and hegemony based on a fiat money system in its death throes. What are we as a people left with? A published scientific forensic investigation that concludes a type of Directed Energy that was used as a weapon “dustified” the World Trade Center complex and a group of shadowy people determined to suppress that evidence by any means. This is the sad reality that we live in. Wake up!


    © 2012 Music, Lyrics, & Vocals by Charlie Pound

    BTW…Those who ridicule and marginalize Dr. Judy Wood are promoting the fascist police state that Edward Joseph “Ed” Snowden is alerting us to…

    Fascism Anyone?

    Does any of this ring alarm bells? Of course not. After all, this is America, officially a democracy with the rule of law, a constitution, a free press, honest elections, and a well-informed public constantly being put on guard against evils. Historical comparisons like these are just exercises in verbal gymnastics. Maybe, maybe not. (Remember that fascist regimes have elections too. Covering it up with a red, white, and blue sticker doesn’t make fascism any less despicable. When are people going to wake up and start using the “F” word?)

    https://web.archive.org/web/20030603193129/http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/britt_23_2.htm

      • Humm… personal attacks to ignore the evidence. See how easy it is to promote a cover-up! The truth does not depend on who supports it. Truth is not a club or a matter of “opinion” or “belief”. Neither is truth a political or economic objective. Truth doesn’t have sides. The truth is singular and the truth is unifying. By reading Dr. Wood’s research and collection of evidence as compiled in her book the truth is known, so there is no need to “Re-investigate 9/11” or “call for a new investigation” unless the objective is to divert everyone away from the truth. If you want unity, then seek the truth by reading her book. If you were assigned to do a book report, would you read the book or rely on rumors, conjecture, and uninformed opinions from other people? This isn’t about beliefs, it is about evidence XingFu. 🙂

        http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa326/Jefffolkman/WhereDidTheirCredibilityGo.jpg

        • Ah, just like truthers have not read any official report, but rely on videos and websites that claim to know the real truth. Makes sense to me!

    • Richard gage is promoting the idea of a proper investigation.
      In such an investigation, all the evidence, including that of judy wood, would be entered and tested via cross examination and scrutiny by experts.

      richard gage is doing good work in raising awareness that the official account of 9/11 is impossible.

      judy wood may be right, but even if someone has the proper qualifications, and access to all the evidence – a web forum, or simply reading a book, is no way to determine the truth.

      the idea that a proper investigation doesnt need to be held because you agree with judy wood is as ridiculous as saying the official account is true, so no need for a proper investigation.

      • In Australia there is an example of a proper investigation. It is being carried out by a Royal Coomission into institutions and child abuse. Allegations are going back decades and being exposed. Other countries have carried out similar proper investigations.
        A proper investigation of 911 is the responsibility of US government and/or relevant states.
        KSM was water boarded (tortured) by the US 83 (?) times in a month to state that he planned 911 from “A to Z”.
        So there is a precedent in the US as to how to investigate. (:-).
        Well now let us investigate. Expose what Cheney and Bush told the Congressiona Commission not under oath. Note that even 6 of the Commissipners say that the inquiry. Was set up to fail. So for US justice, truth and the American way. It is hypocritical BS.
        The FBI should expose their findings on the arrests of the five dancing Israelis who ‘documented’ live, the mass murders as they happened.
        As with a Royal Commission, potential witnesses can be called and compelled to answer pertinent questions and produce documents.
        As Dundee would say: “now that is a proper investigation”.
        We know the buildings were brought down by means other than fires, a proper investigation gets to the ‘how’, ‘why’ and ‘who’. Now, ‘who’ and ‘why’ are those who are objecting/obfuscating to/in exposing; heinous war criminals, their aiders and abettors, together with those conspiring to defeat the course of justice in preventing such a proper investigation?
        Clearly, such subhuman types are lower than disgusting cruel paediphiles and those who covered up or failed to act on their evil perverted existence.

        • Yes, they were set up to fail, but they didn’t. They made that clear also. And those 5 Israelis werent the only ones documenting this. All the news channels were documenting the event. Everyone with a camera was documenting the event. And you don’t know jack shit about the buildings being brought down any other way than any fires, because not a single truther has the balls to explain what happened according to them. So what was used to bring down the towers, how was it used, and where was it used. So was it used on all floors? Was it used on all columns? How was it installed? How was it triggered? Who installed it? What was the chain of command? Who gave the order? What did they use? How much did they use? Simple questions not single nutbar is able to answer. All you pansies do is ask questions, because you are to stupid and lazy to look for answers yourself.

        • So if you know how the buildings were brought down by means other than fires, please enlighten us with all your knowledge. But i guess i have to wait for that, till hell freezes over.

        • Getting nervous Johnny boy? Remember, the paedophile Royal Commission is going back decades, so many 911 apologists are going to have to beware, for at least 40 years. Even the USS Liberty murders after about 47 years is being exposed . by declassified material and whistle lowers.

        • Nervous? You are joking right? 13 years on, and you are still unable to come up with a decent hypothesis about what happened to the buildings according to you. So spit it out. Explain to us mere mortals, what happened to the buildings.

        • johnny
          “So if you know how the buildings were brought down by means other than fires, please enlighten us with all your knowledge. But i guess i have to wait for that, till hell freezes over.”

          the only ones that KNOW how it was done, are the ones that did it.

          however, what we know, is that the official account, is impossible. physics doesnt lie. it is not a matter of what you believe, it is what is actually possible. nothing can fall at free fall speeds, if there is anything under it, other than thin air. to maintain the official account of 911, is to defy common sense, logic, reason, and the laws of nature.

          “Nervous? You are joking right? 13 years on, and you are still unable to come up with a decent hypothesis about what happened to the buildings according to you. ”

          there have been many a hypothesis, but to formulate a theory, only encourages howls of derision such as “conspiracy theorist!” – which is quite funny actually, as the official account is nothing more..

          the proper way to determine who is guilty, is through an independent, transparent, unfettered investigation, but the govt fights tooth and nail to avoid such a thing.. why? well – obviously they are scared of the truth.

          why would anyone argue against such a thing? why do you, and the others here argue so much? what is it you fear about a new investigation? you happy with rights and liberties being stripped away on the back of the lies of 911? you happy with hundreds of thousands of people being murdered in illegal immoral wars..

          what is it, in the official account of 911, that makes you believe it is what really happenned? what evidence have you seen, that i and the majoprity of the world have missed, that convinces you 100% that you are right, and we are wrong?

          can you show us ONE SINGLE THING that can wirthstand the slightest scrutiny?

          • Well said Fairdinkum—“the proper way to determine who is guilty, is through an independent, transparent, unfettered investigation, but the govt fights tooth and nail to avoid such a thing.. why? well – obviously they are scared of the truth”

        • Johnny boy, the Congressional committee did fail. That is why we are here.
          For people new to this subject and the obfuscation by JB re the five dancing Israelis, just search the subject and see the reality.
          As for fire causing the buildings to collapse: search ‘911 the woman who walked through fire’ and see the picture of her at the aircraft entrance hole. As for more on fire listen to the radio communications between the fire crew on about the 83rd floor; ‘spotted fires two hoses will so it’.
          JB does not know shit about 911, or does , so who are his associates and what is their purpose?

        • hahaha, Yes, there were 2 pockets of fire on the 78th floor(Not the 83rd floor as you claim), the rest was higher up, since fire travels upward. And yes the woman was standing in a draft portion of the building, but that was long before the tower collapsed, in which she died. The firedepartment saw this as a rescue operation and not an operation to turn out the fire, because it was to big.

          Does this look like a small fire?

          https://www.metabunk.org/sk/GJS-WTC27.jpg-20130909-112116.jpg

          Or this?

          http://www.debunking911.com/WTC_on_fire9.jpg

          Like I said, you don’t know jack shit. Your just a puppet monkey Ned.

        • Many Hypothesis? Don’t you need just one hypothesis? And the majority of the world has no problem at all with the official story. Maybe in your head the majority has issues with it, but only a small percentile of a percentile of engineers, believe this idiocy. Like the engineers for AE911. Which list mostly Electrical engineers, who seem to know a lot about high rise construction for some reason, known only to them. And even they don’t agree on most things. Some of them say that no plane hit the Pentagon, others say it did hit the Pentagon. Like I said. There is no common ground with truthers. They all believe in something else. The only thing they are 100% sure of, is that the building did not come down naturally. But if you ask them to explain why it could not have happened like that, they just refuse to answer, because they don’t know. They just like to call for an investigation into something they know nothing about. If there ever was a new investigation into the collapse of the buildings, you would not be interested, or understand the results anyway, so why would you care?

        • You do know, that the entire steel facade collapsed in that fire don’t you? And that was not my point. Ned the puppet, said it was just a few small fires, which is proven untrue.

    • To me it matters not who will be proved correct. What is required is to stop debating causation. We know there are elements of impossibility in the official story. So let an unfettered inquiry/investigation/commission begin the processes to this end.

  23. The track record of the US Liberty attack investigation is documented proof that the US Government, US Military, US Media and the Israeli Government have and can conspire to cook up false evidence and a stream of false studies to negotiate a false reality.
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/liberty2.html
    http://consortiumnews.com/2014/11/12/behind-the-uss-liberty-cover-up/
    http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/specialseries/2014/10/day-israel-attacked-america-20141028144946266462.html

    A small minority have made efforts for decades to have the episode investigated honestly but unfortunately their voices were not heard or their cries for justice were blocked by repeated claims the “investigation” had not uncovered any evidence Israel attacked Liberty with full knowledge it was a US vessel.
    The recordings of Israeli communications have now surfaced that expose their certain identification of Liberty and even more incriminating is that many of the cronies in this crime always new the recordings left no doubt about what really happened.

    This is the pattern of historical experience that proves conspiracies involving a large and diverse cast of characters can be buried from public view and contained from gaining traction beyond a small dedicated number.

    If our society was educated regarding all the various methods, tactics and forces of power and intimidation that could be sifted from just this particular saga our community might have much better instinctive defenses against the sorcery of tyranny.

    The reference I link points towards some of the incredible hurdles and insulting treatment poured over the honest genuine quest for a just investigation.

    It is impossible to precisely judge the motivations and conscious culpability of everyone who joins in with the empty headed chanting that calls for “witch burning” or a “crucifixion” to satisfy Cesar but we should make certain we never fall under that tricky spell ourselves.

  24. the idiot says..

    “I’d like to hear from you the what is wrong with the NIST report… Assuming that you’ve read the NIST report.”

    http://www.ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-articles/926-25-points-of-specific-concern-in-the-nist-wtc-reports.html

    “I’m stll waiting for a model which proves that controlled demoltions were being used.”

    some form of controlled demolition is the only likely possibility, however, it is not our job to prove what did happen, we are not the ones putting forward a theory. if the govt want to tell us a story about muslims with box cutters, the onus of any proof, lies with them.

    again, you argue points like a petulant little kid. you really are quite an utterly stupid bore. grow up.

    • So you didnt read the report and rely on ae911. If you are not sure what form of demolition was used, how can you claim it was a demolition? The collapse was studied for years by high rise building expert engineers. They figured out that it went down without any sort of demolition. And how does gumshoenews wave this away? Mind control. …

    • And it wasnt mind control. They used energy weapons. Thats the only explenation left. The experts didnt look at that. They looked at explosives and found nothing.

      • Dieter – you are definitely a troll. You comment is not worth answering. But Barnett said to me. They didn’t see any ‘evidence ‘ for explosives – so didn’t investigate explosives as a cause. You are truly a multi-lateral-persona-professional troll – alongwith El-kammo

        • Dalia. if this were my blog, i would simply hold all comments in moderation, and simply not let the trash get through, would be a lot less time consuming i think.

          obvious trolls are obvious, and im sure most reasonable people know that. it would be different if they actually argued on points of substance, but they do not even deserve to have their so called opinion see the light of day, let alone given any credibility by answering them.

          they will howl, censorship.. but really, its just keeping the place respectable.
          🙂

        • So the People who actually handled the steel saw no signs of explosives being used. Yet the People who just looked at some video claim that explosives were used. And you believe those people that just looked at video…… Was it super duper secret explosives that leave no trail and didnt produce explosive sounds?

          • Idiot, looking at steal is not the same as Testing for signs of explosives or gun powder.
            Have you never been called aside at an airport to test for explosive residue with sophisticated equipment? I have.

          • Lol. So they used Guns to shoot down the buildings. Im glad you call me the idiot…

            Do you actually know how they demolish steel constructions?

            They cut the beams with high speed detcord. So it’s kind obvious to even an idiot like you, if it was blown up or not.

          • Why mention gunpowder at all? But nice divertion of the fact that it’s impossible not to see if explosives were used.

          • Complete BS, specialised equipmen Is required for the testing.
            Unless of course it is BS and even you probably would not even detect that with a sniff. But we can, from here to Tel Aviv!

          • So you confirm that dogs would react to explosives, which they didn’t react to in the rubble, so we can conclude that no explosives were used. And the dogs reacted as if they had detected explosives, although officers were unable to find anything. Be sure to read AS IF.

          • Ok, So Dalia talked to Barnnet who says, they did not find any signs of explosives during the handling off all the steel. The 950 dogs also did not react to any explosives. The bomb sniffing dogs that were stationed in the towers before the collapse also did not react to explosives. So why do you still want to believe that explosives were used?

          • Boring, been there, if you do not believe that explosives must have been used to cause one or more of three high rise steel structured buildings on the one site on the one day to collapse, then best of luck with whatever living you might wish to attempt in your life. But do not tell any future employers what you belive about the three towers, alternativel y, take up writing fairytales for kinder kids.

          • So your not even sure how many buildings were brought down by explosives. And I will always have a job, because I work for the government, and I get to reply on forums like this and get paid for it. And since this will never come to a new investigation, you will spend the rest of your life crying about a new investigation. Which works for me lol 🙂

  25. For some reason my contact with some sites is being ‘pulled’.
    A lenthy comment has just disappeared.
    So quickly:: Dee, there are interests who will do their best to obfuscate and mislead re 911. Obviously, why should they care if the mass murders are properly investigated?
    So piss them off and let is get on with a proper investigation of mass murderers and their abettors.

  26. Contact again pulled.
    Anyway, in furthe reply to dimwit who referred to Dee as a girlfriend.
    He is being scandalous so that he is banned and them he can whine about being barred.
    Typical modus of those crying censorship and being victims of circumstances that they deliberately create.
    Oh poor me!!!!! The world is cruel to me!!!

  27. You threw first, problem with getting it back bully boy?
    Now go away, here we have laws dealing with bullying tactica and attempts to scandalise non existent relationships.

  29. FEMA and NIST 9/11 Investigators Victims of Mind Manipulation?

    Case : Mr. Barnet

    Investigator : Ms. Mae

    Fact : disagreement on collapse of WTC buildings

    Charged as : Mind manipulation

    Evidence : NONE

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