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Eleven Years To Decide That MH17 Was Downed by a Russian Weapon?

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(L) District Court of The Hague, (R) Part of the downed plane

by Mary W Maxwell, LLB

Malaysian Airlines flight 17, from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, was downed when flying over Ukraine, in July 2014. All crew and passengers died.

You will recall that Gumshoe reader Christopher Brooks, a dairy farmer, walked into a Parliamentary office to complain the way the MH17 matter was being investigated. By sheer luck was mistakenly shown an agreement by four countries — Australia, Holland, Belgium and Ukraine—to keep a lid on the findings of a forthcoming “investigation.”

Today, May 13, 2025, at the UN, an “international civilian aviation council” came to a decision that Russia was to blame.

You may also recall that James O’Neill, a Queensland academic who occasionally said his piece at GumshoeNews.com, wrote an article denying Russia’s culpability.  After James died, we learned that he was “High Intel” in New Zealand.  I will now re-run his article, at the end of which I add a link that was provided by Terry Shulze as a comment.

The following is what appeared at Gumshoe on October 31, 2020, under the title “The Crash of MH17 Wends Its Wary Way Through the Courts.” (Note: Dee McLachlan also wrote numerous articles on MH17, easily found at our search engine.)

By James O’Neill:

On 17 July 2014 a Malaysian airlines flight en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur was shot down while traversing Ukrainian airspace. All 298 passengers and crew on board were killed. The vast majority of passengers on board were Dutch. Australians constituted the third-largest group (38) after Malaysia. A full-scale propaganda campaign immediately flew into action with Russia named as the principal offender, something they have repeatedly denied.

The source of the fatality was alleged to be a BUK missile, a Russian made missile imported into Ukraine for this specific purpose and immediately afterward moved back to Russia. It was not only Russian denials that raised questions about the allegations. Among many other points no one could offer a single plausible reason as to why a Russian missile would be used to shoot down a civilian airline.

As we shall see, the absence of any plausible motive was not the only flaw in the argument.

The Dutch immediately set up a team to investigate the crash. In this they were joined by Australia, Ukraine and Belgium. The Malaysians initially refused to join (they joined in November 2014).

The terms of the agreement between the four nations were the first clue as to its unreliability. It included a condition that nothing was to be published unless all four parties agreed. As Ukraine was an obvious candidate for culpability, that clause alone makes the investigation group a candidate for suspicion.

That the investigation should be open to suspicion relied upon other grounds as well. The first was the argument that a BUK missile had been the means by which the plane was brought down. This is a view consistently advanced by a British “investigator” known to have close links with British intelligence.

There are a number of reasons to seriously doubt these all too convenient causes of the planes crash. The first is that a BUK missile operates by exploding near the aircraft, sending a huge mess of material into the plane, in turn causing its destruction and crashing. The fundamental problem with this explanation for the planes demise was the absence of any evidence of such a missile being found in the recovered wreckage.

This single fact alone is sufficient to destroy the “Russians did it” theory of how MH17 reached its end. What is surprising, but also very revealing, is that this fact was known to the investigators, but it has not been allowed to temper the clearly politically motivated exercise of blaming Russia.

Australia is a party to the investigation and the actions of the Australian investigators are a vital clue as to the reality. The Australian expert team of David Ranson, a Melbourne pathologist, and Ian West, deputy coroner of the State of Victoria, wrote two reports.

Their reports clearly stated that a BUK missile is the cause of the fatality. This report was not only shown to the victim’s families, but it was also discussed with the Australian police. Both men also gave evidence on their research to the Asia and the Pacific Conference held in Melbourne on 14 November 2015.

Writing in the website www.johnhelmer.net, the only website to this writer’s knowledge to have consistently covered the whole affair right up to and including the present day, the author poses the question as to why the report has subsequently been classified. There has never been a satisfactory explanation for this event.

It is not too difficult to ascertain the reasons for suppressing the report. It does not fit the official story, which is to blame Russia for the disaster. That this is not an accident is to be clearly inferred from the fact that the report has been kept secret by three successive Prime Ministers: Abbott, Turnbull and now Morrison. That does not happen by chance.

Another major clue as to the real views of the Australian government is found in the fact that they have declined to pay out to the families of victims under the Supporting Australian Victims of Terrorism Overseas Act. That would have required the Australian government to issue a certification as to the cause of the crash which killed the victims. They have refused to do so, which is hardly consistent with the official policy of blaming Russia.

The Australian Prime Ministers are not alone in keeping the secret. A trial alleging the complicity of three Russians and one Ukrainian is winding its farcical way through the Dutch courts. All but one of the accused has declined to appear at trial.

Their reluctance to appear is well-founded. It used to be the case that one could rely on the Dutch to conduct a fair trial, at least according to some people. If that were ever the case it is not true now. The trial will undoubtably drag on. If the actual inquiry into the crash was ever held, then the trials conclusions would be as clear as the evidence actually suggests. That is, the plane was shot down by one or possibly two Ukrainian fighters observed in the area at the relevant time. These observations took place in the face of denial by the Ukrainian government that any of their planes were active that day.

That this is highly unlikely to ever eventuate is a measure of how sad the policies of blame Russia regardless of the facts has become. That Australia should lend itself to this blatant deception, having actually published the truth some years ago, is also saddening. The compliance of the mainstream media in Australia who have consistently refused to publish the truth of the matter is similarly appalling.

Editor’s Note: Terry Shulze made the following comment on Oct 31, 2020:

“Thanks James, here’s another source of information on MH-17, a book with the information. Unfortunately, this review of the book has been censored in Australia. Like WOW, if that isn’t an admission of a guilty state of mind. It is like the Australian government admitting it is all true.

https://www.sott.net/article/443581-Censored-article-MH17-and-the-Australian-dimension

The said book is still at Amazon for 20 USD. Title: The Lie That Shot Down MH17.

And here is Dee’s December 14, 2022obituary for James O’Neill:  https://gumshoenews.com/james-oneill-obituary-the-passing-of-a-geopolitical-era/

38 COMMENTS

  1. The DeepState likes to take out 2 at a time.
    JFK and MLK
    Lennon and Reagan
    Two towers
    Two Malaysian planes
    What were the planes doing going through military zones.
    There was motive for both events.

  2. As I recall, one of the Ukrainian pilots upon returning to base stated “wrong plane”. – Apparently it was to be a hit on Putin whose jet was also in the area. The colors of Putin’s plane and MH-17 were very similar.

  3. This is some important news from your home ‘eminent virtueness’
    I will get to our plane crash down a bit for relevance.
    DEADLY SERIOUS.
    Where to start?
    FIRSTLY, AFTER A MORNING’s RESEARCH, I will with Jaco at
    http://www.beforeitsnews.com – BAD NEWS that they do not want you to know.
    I have followed Jaco for some years and have noted that he claimed to be ‘intuitive’.
    In the first 3-4 minutes, as I suspected, he is in the remote viewers paddock he does not ramble as usual to annoy the inpatient who cannot handle most who do and miss important snippets.
    The ads are behaving with no need today to reload, just skip them.
    His discussions include the Fitts-Tucker interview about the dumbs that Sandra has informed of re the 21trillion missing etc. note it for the back burner and bring it into context from 30 mins for one of Terry’s favourite concerns—- the sun’s cycle of solar mins and maxs.
    Well am I depressed!
    SERIOUSLY SO , CONSIDERING THE HISTORIC EVENTS COVERED WELL.Just listen in. Sorry, but as Jaco opines, they have not been telling us and many deliberately are trying to stop you from knowing, maybe the censor will have a fit.
    Then Epstein etc is for those who have a brain to have seen.
    Next:
    At BIn, the Charlie Ward show for a short period including a tie up with Ben Fulford as to T’s appearance in Saudi Arabia … as ‘royalty’ on the purple💁🤪 and his distancing him self from the zionists. Fancy that? Ha, no one has listened to Mike King over the last month (Elspeth🙀) and I have referred to King at BIN.
    Oh I mentioned relevance: test flight MH 17 is discussed as well.
    Lastly, for the researcher’s ‘dot’ collectors, read Ben Fulford’s weekly report at :
    http://www.rumormillnews.com – down a bit amongst all the other banned stuff. Do not try goofil , they do not want the public informed and discussing what is being put up…… just as Jaco explained above with his past censoring.
    If you cannot discern and put dots together, just go to the msm printed rags and pick something it puts out for the trusting dumb normies. Try the astrology predictions!
    God bless🙏
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      • Just think, if people conceptualized that article, they could have 5 years of growth on their fruit and nut trees, not to mention the quality of the soil that they could have built up.

        • I’m afraid the time left for preparations is narrowing.
          Growing and preserving your own food requires time and practice along with other preps and can’t be achieved overnight.

          • Yeah, I’ve made a few mistakes along the way. Like, I allowed my sauerkraut to rise to the surface and get the top spoiled (the rest below was OK). Then there were the various trees that didn’t work out in my first location, so I re-planted them where they liked it. Then there was the big storm that flattened all my maize. BUT, you learn from your mistakes and figure out what needs to be done. – The damn olive tree still hasn’t started again to producing fruit from when I nuked it with my caustic wood stove applications…

    • From 23 mins for five on expected solar flares and how to handle it emotionally.
      But expect nightmares:
      http://www.beforeitsnews.com – people powered news.
      Up to there, blackouts underway, the black hats are waving their electric cables, but relax, Commander Thor will minimise problems.
      Oh the Clinton’s pinched our money given by our government to spend on Haiti. Well why should Hatians get only 2%. It was only a earthquake in 2010.
      Let’s see what happens after 28 mins I think Israel is coming up, any way it will be all on the ABC tonight
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  5. Also never explained why many of the bodies showed evidence of advanced decomposition.
    Much talk around the possibility that the plane (and passengers) was in fact MH370 seen landing at Diego Garcia.The Ashton Forbes Orb teleportation video now adds credence to this likelihood.
    I followed Captain Field McConnell, a former Northwest Airline DC-10 captain and a long time friend of Captain Dan Hanley, and David Hawkins(Abel Danger channel)back in the day.
    Of course most of that information has now been deleted.
    However after some searching I found this interview with Field McConnell(David Hawkins has subsequently died).
    ALGN Radio: October 21, 2022 “Malaysia 370 / MH 17 Hinge Point”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1WmAfl3Lus

  6. Attention Dianne,
    I have referred to Real Mary WTPN SITUATION UPDATE FOR 15/5 above but it has disappeared . Well they are getting serious because they and their followers are simply scared.
    Oh well they can just stay scared when I referred to the solar flares. AND THE REST .
    But for you I noted from about 45 mins many references to MKULTRA THAT YOU MIGHT WISH TO NOTE.
    For others the link to Real Mary is:
    http://www.beforeitsnews.com people powered news that is hidden from dumb normies who will not look.
    Just skip the adverts’.
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          • Joe Bogan got the total black out and switched to Joe Bogan 2, had it twice before under previous aliases. Looks like the publisher is locked out too. I wish the publisher the best of good luck to obtain 1st amendment protections. Now we have A-G Michelle Rowland things could not look much worse, this must have been how Germany 1938 was.

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            Seems that my reply at 1101 went to the bureaucrats to try and determine anything revolutionary and unacceptable that might expose them
            1111

          • By chance:
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  7. Aaron Maté : Can US and Hamas Talk Without Israel?
    Trump will not intervene to stop the Palestinian genocide which Netanyahu is currently ramping up further in Gaza and the West Bank.
    And where is the US aid promised to Gaza to avert the famine imposed by Israel?
    It’s simple-just turn off the spigot of weaponry and financial support being paid for by the US citizenry.The same applies to Ukraine.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn9DxTwr0B4

      • A very bright guy and great interview. I have spent years accumulating information (connecting dots) that he has consolidated in one book. If we could only get the dumb-asses in the moronosphere to read the book, it would save me heaps of grief in my day to day interactions with said dumb-asses.

  10. Emergency Stream – Gorgon Stare & Sierra Nevada Corporation
    Ashton Forbes-17 mins
    Paper trail of where the trillions of dollars are going.
    The Joint Forces Tactical Intelligence Network using likely Lockhead Martin developed Plasma Orbs to teleport MH370 whilst employing super advanced surveillance technology that standard military does not have access to.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEVjyoGiy3g

      • Real video of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 being recorded on WAMI via Gorgon Stare from above in the Nicobar Islands per the coordinates.

        The drone recording this was probably MQ-9 and the pod was relaying to NROL-22, as seen in the bottom left corner.

        Sierra Nevada Corporation (SNC) is the integrator of Gorgon Stare and criminally implicated via this footage in the disappearance of the plane. The data was being fed in real time to the Joint Tactical Intelligence Network.
        SNC deleted their webpage about Gorgon Stare this week and today their support line was shut down from being overloaded.

        The operation was being monitored in real time and this video was recorded after the fact, likely someone found this on the server.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7puA8CcE-g

  11. How to save yourself and family in the event of a planetary near extinction event!
    Do what Terry is doing? Nah wast of time.
    Just get into government, especially the US Congress.
    They are upgrading their 22trillion bunkers and the peasants and Bogans can just get to the hills.
    530 on 17/5 at:
    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com -stories
    I will vote for you if you vote for me💁🤪
    BTW, want to know what Comey’s ‘84’ means?
    Combine it as 8447 Simon can work it out.
    Anyway, Comey deleted it but could be arrested for it⚖️
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      • My reply seems to have suffered a 86
        To repeat.
        Very good young Shultze, you are awaken and one who passed among many.
        Original time; 107.
        I might add. In junior school I was taught some history of colonial NSW AND THE CURRENCY USED … till Macquarie .
        In view of the dire expectations perhaps some history cpuld be life saving.
        You probably missed that education, being a later day colonialist.
        So search “ ‘currency’ common in NSW before Macquarie’, “
        A ‘holy’ dollar solved the problem🤪…… until 1913 at least in the US Then came Keating!
        Perhaps our education system has some deficiencies?
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