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Here Comes the Avalanche, Part 4: Cathi Morgan’s Research

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Newborns (photo nashvillebreastfeeding.org)

by Cathi Morgan

Editor’s note: This intriguing article was previously published on Cathi Morgan’s blog, which contains superb research: https://cathki.wordpress.com/

The Roots of Mass Programming

Post World War One, many measures were put in place in the UK to control the population, one such project was to ensure the controlability of each individual by traumatising them at birth and disrupting the mother-child bonding process.

Pavlov was a scientist using dogs to explore conditioning in Russia and his techniques were applied to humans. Specifically, they were used to set up the Communist school system (Watt) to indoctrinate all future Russian citizens. Pavlov noted that in humans, trauma results in personality fragmentation.

Subsequent intensive research in the West revealed that this would massively enhance susceptibility to mind control techniques using television and other tools of social engineering, devised and implemented via the Tavistock Institute.

Pavlov’s work was creating a buzz in the West and after he had observed in his dogs that the traumatised mind becomes wiped clean of previous learning. Soldiers returning to the UK from WWI and WWII in huge numbers and highly traumatised (“shell-shocked”) provided a virtually unlimited source of fodder for study and experimentation in this respect.

Mass Medicalisation of Childbirth

The birth of the National Health Service – an organisation which was initially used as a primary means of monitoring the movement and whereabouts of all individuals – also allowed for prescribed control of the birth process on a massive scale.

The UK founded the National Birthday Trust Fund (NBT) whose goal was to promote hospitalisation and medicalisation of every birth. The NBT was subsequently involved in monitoring the progress and success of the programme by organising and funding massive surveys of sample sections of the population.

Many of these were administered via the London School of Economics, funders included the UK Eugenics Society, Ford Foundation and Rockefeller Foundation.

These surveys also provided a useful cover for monitoring (no doubt numerous) ‘special’ subjects – individuals who were used for additional research. This is apparently what happened to my twin sister and myself as part of the 1958 we were inexplicably assessed frequently from birth to age 4, whilst the rest of the cohort were not contacted until they were aged 6.

No doubt the drive to succeed and reach the top of their profession ensured that some doctors could easily be influenced to carry out intensive research required to identify how to reprogramme the traumatised mind.

One such doctor was William Sargant who worked with many of the thousands of shell-shocked troops returning from the front. When he worked with shell-shocked troops he followed in the footsteps of his former tutor and mentor Lord Moran (who was instrumental in setting up the NHS).

Sargant would eventually set up a sleep room experimenting with wiping patients’ memories and trying to reprogram them using massive doses of LSD and daily electric shock treatments many times greater than the recommended ‘therapeutic’ dose.

Porton Down and MK Ultra Links

Lord Moran (Formerly Charles McMoran Wilson) was well known as Winston Churchill’s doctor. He often met socially with the Dulles brothers when they were in London and also happened to be involved in the education of Dr Joel Elkes.

Elkes became a doctor for MK Ultra working at St Elizabeth’s Hospital in Washington, DC and also established a massive LSD treatment centre at Birmingham University hospital in the UK with Rockefeller funding.

Prior to this,  Elkes had worked at Porton Down developing chemical weapons and poisonous gases, then went on to specialise in Neuro Pharmachology experimenting with creating chemical substances to control behaviour.

Lord Moran’s wife Doroth Dufton worked at Porton Down researching Poisonous Gases under Sir Joseph Barcroft, head of the Porton Down Physiological department.

Barcroft had been Ms Dufton’s tutor and was also tutor to William Grey Walter who went on to study the hypnotic effect of television flicker rate at the Burden Neurological Institute.

Grey Walter attended the international WHO conferences including the 1953 WHO Study Group on the Psychobiological Development of the Child Study Group and the Macy Foundation Cybernetics conferences, both of which were intrinsically tied in with the development of the secret research programmes on many populations worldwide, known as MK Ultra.

Some members of The Ratio Club with guests outside Peterhouse, University of Cambridge, May 1952 (photo sourced from researchgate.net)

Grey Walter studied and extended the work of Pavlov into cybernetics. He was part of a group of Cyberneticists, who formed a club, ‘The Ratio Club,’ many of whose members worked for the government at Bletchley Park. On of these was the famous Alan Turing who invented the code-breaking Enigma machine.

Another attendee was Horace Barlow, great Grandson of Charles Darwin, and Ross Ashby who studied ways to control group interactions. They viewed social groups as machines who could be programmed. The results of these studies were rapidly incorporated into the Tavistock Agenda of social control.

Retrospective View

In retrospect it is obvious that measures were put in place in scientific and medical circles to ensure that funding was given only to research that would be useful to the ‘Cabal’ or ruling elite who guide the disastrous direction humanity is headed in today. This can be seen in the funding of research that would increase the success of mind control and social engineering programmes.

One aspect of the MK Ultra psycho cybernetic conferences for example, focused on ‘The chicken pecking order’ and the brain patterns of the ‘underdog’.

Medical and Scientific breakthroughs that would enhance the human condition were never intended to be made available to the population at large whose labour and taxes had in fact provided the funding and wherewithal. Humanity as a whole means nothing to this ruling elite who seem to be under the influence of a dark and evil force.

Their actions include deliberately exterminating all traditional cultures that place a value on love, truth and inherited wisdom. Consider how we are increasingly persuaded that instead of respecting, taking care of and learning from our elders — which was traditional worldwide for millennia — we should consider them ‘useless eaters’ who should be left to die without food or water if they become ill and go into hospitals.

Under MK Ultra, the documentation clearly shows that vulnerable sectors of the population were subjected to barbaric experiments which included feeding plutonium to retarded children in their breakfast cereal, subjecting pregnant women to radiation, giving children LSD daily for up to two years, to name but a few.

The twisted mind control being applied attempts to make populations think it is human nature to be greedy, cruel and ruthless when nothing could be further from the truth.

Unfortunately however, the minority who adopt this attitude gain disproportionate power and influence. Another basic programmed attitude effective in discouraging action by the masses — as the manipulation grows more intense and barbaric — is that ‘no point trying to do anything because it has always been this way.’

Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth.

— Cathi Morgan is a brilliant researcher and caring person who was subjected to the worst of the worst in her childhood in Bath, England. She has made many videos. She can be contacted at: cathmorgan@msn.com

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  1. WOW! – “deliberately exterminating all traditional cultures that place a value on love, truth and inherited wisdom”

    You mean like this … ?

    “There remains then but one mode of ridding the world forces of ***ism – [] by preventing the people of *** from ever again reproducing their kind. This modern method, known to science as Eugenic Sterilization, is at once practical, humane and thorough. Sterilization has become a byword of science, as the best means of ridding the human race of its misfits: the degenerate, the insane, the hereditary criminal.

    When one realizes that such health measures as vaccination and serum treatments are considered as direct benefits to the community, certainly sterilization of the *** people cannot but be considered a great health measure promoted by humanity to immunize itself forever against the virus of ***ism.

    To achieve the purpose of *** extinction it would be necessary to only sterilize some **,000,000 — a figure which excludes, because of their limited power to procreate, males over 60 years of age, and females over 45.

    The balance of the male civilian population of *** could be treated within three months. Inasmuch as sterilization of women needs somewhat more time, it may be computed that the entire female population of *** could be sterilized within a period of three years or less. Complete sterilization of both sexes, and not only one, is to be considered necessary …”

    I wonder who guessed that the redacted *** = “German”

    From …

    Germany Must Perish!
    by Theodore N. Kaufman
    Newark, N.J., Argyle press Copyright 1941

    Wikipedia: “Theodore Newman Kaufman [] was an American Jewish businessman … “

    • Speaking of babies (and bayonets) …

      https://gumshoenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/baby-1.png

      April 1917 – Wilson establishes the Committee on Public Information (CPI) for the purpose of manipulating public opinion in support of the war. Edward Bernays, “the father of American propaganda” is a CPI member. A nephew of the psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud, Zionist Bernays boasts of his ability to control the public mind. He calls his scientific methods for controlling public opinion, “the engineering of consent.” In his 1928 book, Propaganda, Bernays explains:

      • “The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. – We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. It is they who pull the wires that control the public mind.”

      Bernays and his CPI co-conspirators portray the American war effort as a holy crusade “to make the world safe for democracy”, while at the same time spreading vile hate-filled propaganda directed towards Germany and its Emperor, Wilhelm II.

      Source: “The Bad War” – Mike King 2015

  2. Dear Cathi Morgan and the McIntyre siblings and the You Know Who You Are’s

    A zillion apologies to you for our standing by and doing the “Duh”, and a zillion thanks to you for actively contributing to our education.

    Dee and I have no idea how you cope.

  3. This is a quote from my book Deliverance: A Royal Commission and Pizzagate Reveal Society’s Hidden Rulers (2018):

    “There are two superb websites about what’s happening in UK on matters related to child abuse and mind control. One is by Cathi Morgan. She is a survivor. Please see her work, part of which covers elite pedo rings in Bath, England. (all the good people of Bath?)

    The other blogger, Cathy Fox was never a victim. She is a researcher. Ms Fox has published a story on behalf of Steven George. He is a person blowing the whistle on pedophiles who then gets falsely accused (like Richard Taus and Bobby Garwood!) of being a pedophile. But I see that he ran for Parliament in order to oppose an MP he calls “a sex pest.” The story involves all the judicial chicanery that I know about only too well. Please check it out at cathyfox.wordpress.com.

    “In sum: the big elite pedos never get charged (we’re waiting for US Attorney General Jeff Sessions to deal with Pizzagate), but small fry do. Also: whistle blowers are regularly killed, smeared, and imprisoned, and society does nothing to stop it. How can we be such a nation of sheep?”

    Here is an idea, O Gumshoers. Just wrote a cheerful note to Prisoner Richard Taus, 91A 1040, PO Box 2001, Dannemora NY, 12929, USA. Or read the book his adopted Vietnam son wrote about him; “To Be a Hero.” Solidarity is only a postage stamp away….

  4. Overt cruelty has, of course, long since been replaced by much more subtle mechanisms.
    Which means the subjects are far less likely to suss the overall object.

    The home-birth, home-ed path was for me a matter of base survival: If I had my life to live over I’d probably set myself to infiltrating every State-controlled facility available and holding every staff-member to the declared principles.

  5. Of course all this is nothing new for those who have been following the recent legal wranglings in Germany concerning those who contest the official Holocaust narrative, such as – 90-year-old on 11 November 2018 – Ursula Haverbeck, Sylvia Stolz, Horst Mahler, Gerhard Ittner, Wolfgang Froehlich, siblings Monika and Alfred Schaefer, and currently in England Alison Chabloz and Jez Turner. Here is a letter from Alfred Schaefer re his trial in Munich:

    ALFRED SCHAEFER LETTER
    August 1, 2018

    Alfred Erhard Schaefer
    Stadelheimer Str. 12
    81549 Munich
    Germany

    Dear Alison (Chabloz) (Letter #1)

    Thank you so much for your letter dated 18th July. It came through in 14 days. Not bad. Monica and I are both delighted with our progress at the Inquisition. There has been a very clear change in how the “court” is not treating both of us. They are all receiving a deep education which will make it impossible to feign ignorance when all is said and done. We are still a long ways off from a verdict, and we will take all the time it takes to ensure that all participants understand the significance of what is at stake.

    I am infinitely happy that Jez Turner gave me the opportunity to talk about psychological warfare in the summer of 2016 at the London forum. And now he too sits behind bars. No matter how many of us they do put behind bars, the truth cannot be stopped! There is not one single move that I have made that I regret. Not one! Even Stadelheim Prison is a priceless experience, and I am so happy to be able to share my work with a panel of Judges. We have gone from total disgust and disrespect for each other to a certain level of respect.

    In Germany, as in most “civilized” countries, there are laws that make it a criminal offence to, for example, walk past a burning house without calling the alarm. All of my work is “calling the alarm.” The level of the awakening here in Germany is phenomenal. I do believe that the ongoing invasion is a catalyzing force.

    Here in prison I have learned the incredible feeling it is when all of the people at a Hof Gang (the hour of Courtyard walk) are dark people and the thrill one experiences if there is a white face that speaks German.

    I met a 20-year-old Scott who was close to suicide for his frustration here in Stadelheim. I happened to get locked into the same waiting cell with him on one of my court days. He was unable to communicate with anyone. I reassured him that we Europeans are in this together and that Germany, like the UK, is occupied. London has a Pakistani mayor. How shameful is that? I have not met one German in this prison who is not quite well informed. Everyone seems to know. The young Scotsman was very happy for the time we had to talk.

    In this time of totalitarian ugliness and zero tolerance for truth and Common Sense, we have no choice but to do we are doing.

    Thank you, Alison, for being in this struggle. In the end we will win. The revulsion for those now in power will sweep them away.

    Best regards, Alfred Schaefer.

    What more needs to be added to the above self-explanatory material? Perhaps the addresses so that Gumshoe News readers can write to these prisoners of conscience:
    Write to Monika Schaefer at the following address:

    Monika Schaefer
    JVA Stadelheim
    Schwarzenbergstr. 14
    81549 München
    GERMANY

    Write to Ursula Haverbeck at the following address:

    JVA Bielefeld-Brackwede
    z. Hd. Ursula Haverbeck
    Umlostraße 100
    33649 Bielefeld
    Germany

    Write to Gerhard Ittner at the following address:

    Gerhard Ittner
    JVA Nürnberg
    Mannertstraße 6
    90429 Nürnberg
    Germany

    Write to Jez Turner at the following address:

    Jez Bedford-Turner A5544EE,
    Wing E3-02,
    HMP Wandsworth,
    PO Box 757, Heathfield Road,
    Wandsworth, London SW18 3HU.
    ENGLAND

    Write to Alfred Schaefer at the following address:

    Alfred Erhard Schaefer
    Stadelheimer Str. 12
    81549 Munich
    Germany

    • Of course I should also add the massive trauma experienced through ultrasound testing, and then there is the post-birth 8th day circumcision trauma that afflicts millions of individuals for a lifetime. Unless specifically of a medical nature, there is no reason for such a debilitating snip, not even on cleanliness or religious grounds because such mutilation is simply unjustified on any grounds, bar on medical grounds.

      • And now the grand finale re our hope that Donald Trump would be a good president because he authorized the following – [if that is officially confirmed]

        Nazi death camp guard arrested by ICE, deported to Germany: Authorities
        TARA PALMERI – Good Morning America – August 22, 2018 –
        A man who authorities believe is the last known Nazi collaborator living in the U.S. has been arrested and deported to Germany.
        At the order of President Donald Trump, Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents removed 95-year-old Jakiw Palij from his Queens, New York, home on Monday.

        Justice Department officials say Palij served as an armed guard at a death camp in Nazi-occupied Poland and later lied to American immigration officials about his role in those atrocities when he entered the U.S. after the war.
        https://www.yahoo.com/gma/nazi-labor-camp-guard-arrested-ice-deported-germany-071420607–abc-news-topstories.html

        • Not hard to figure out why Henry Ford, a renowned Jew-hater, is still touted as a national icon
          Whilst the German equivalent, e.g. the Krupp empire, is considered a national disgrace.

          • Are you kidding?

            Henry Ford was one of the primary funders behind the Eugenics Society, along with Carnegie, Rocefeller, and Spencer. It was they who introduced eugenics to the Nazis, and it was they who paid for the Nazi Eugenics programmes later on.

            You are confusing Zionists with Jews. Ethnic Jews are Semites, along with Sephardi, Misrahim, and Palestinians, whose DNA is in common withe ancient Israelites.

            Zionists, most of whom are Ashkenazim (ie whose genetic ancestory is of the khazar Empire of 800AD to 1300AD), who adopted the Jewish religion by Royal Decree and who fled to Russia and Germany when the Kublai Khan decimated the Khazars in the 13th century. Their laguage in Germany, Yiddish, is a hybrid of Khazar and German and has no connextion to Hebrew.

            It was one of these Ashkenazim, who started the lineage of Rothschild, who adopted Zionism as the way to establish a banker state, which became Israel in 1948. The rationale, “back to our homeland” is pure balderdash and was swallowed by gullible fundamentalist Christians, primarily in in the US, UK, and post-war Germany.

            Yes, they sacrificed thousands of actual Jews, and these genetic Jews are still treated as second class citizens in Apartheid Israel. Behind this global con was Ford, Rockefeller, Carnegie in America, and the Rothschilds in Europe.

            Back to the Eugenics Society, after WWII the notoriety created in Germany forced them to change its name to Family Planning which, by the way, has a mere 0.01% male clientele. it is essentially a feminist extension of Eugenics.

            Another branch of the Eugenics Society was the American Association of Psychiatrists, who launched a distorted version of IQ tests designed to crate institutionalised elitism in education, worldwide. This was condemned as absolutely without any scientific basis, by the inventor of IQ tests, Alfred Binet.

            Today, almost all mind control organisations are linked by Eugenics, Zionism, Rhodes Scholarships Board, the Tavistock Institute, Oxford University/London School of Economics, and all Law Societies and national Medical Associations (including the AMA.

            The entire propaganda infrastructure will collapse when cheaper mitochondrial DNA tests enable testing of those who claim to be Jews viz a viz Israel and AIPAC, etc. 80% of Israelis say they would leave Israel now if only they could find entry into another country. With the collapse of the bluff by DNA testing, key support for Israel will dissolve when US Christians withdraw support.

            This knowledge has precipitated a new exodus, this time from Israel. Those likely to be prosecuted for war crimes have nowhere to go.

            The Australian Labor Party, once a vigorous supporter of Israel, thanks to Zionist and elitist support by Whitlam, Hawke, Keating, Gillard, and Rudd, has now withdrawn completely.

            That part of the ALP that supported paedophilia continues to exist.

          • My point, Bozo, was that the entire thrust of the “holocaust” was, and continues to be, the destruction of Germany’s nation-hood: nothing in your essay/lecture proves otherwise, in fact rather the opposite !

    • Thank you Frederick – just a note of acknowledgement and appreciation (as there is no *Like button). I’m very new to this and on a steep learning curve with no agenda other than to learn the truth.

      As Ken O’Keefe succinctly puts it … “BULL***T!! “

      “In this time of totalitarian ugliness and zero tolerance for truth and Common Sense,” I have just read a great essay/booklet that is worth sharing with readers. It is in eight parts – I have provided the first link and redacted the others as there would be too many links.

      https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-mickeysclubhouse/national_socialism_an_essay_by_geebee36_6/

      • https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-mickeysclubhouse/national_socialism_part_2_by_geebee36_6/
      • https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-mickeysclubhouse/national_socialism_part_22_by_geebee36_6/
      • https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-mickeysclubhouse/national_socialism_part_31_by_geebee36_6/
      • https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-mickeysclubhouse/national_socialism_part_32_by_geebee36_6/
      • https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-mickeysclubhouse/national_socialism_part_33_by_geebee36_6/
      • https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-mickeysclubhouse/national_socialism_part_41_by_geebee36_6/
      • https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-mickeysclubhouse/national_socialism_part_4_2nd_instalment/

      Thanks again

        • Fish, I would be wary of O’Keefe or anyone who thinks they have got a quick fix as to who is doing all the evil.

          Pretty sure he means to be honest, but it is an intellectual trap. There is no reason it would be an ethnic group. If it were, that group could not inspire the loyalty — which they clearly do inspire — in their rulership.

          As for the ISRAELI’S running US Congress, I say blame congress. Why pass the buck?

          Ditto federal Parliament. Each and every member.

          Similarly it is the German govt that came up with the facetious “Section 130”.
          Blame the German government, each and every one of them. Why not?

          • Yes and yes-but …

            “Blame the *** government” made me ponder which ‘government’ represents its people/citizens … when those in ‘government’ are overtly advocating the abolition of the very concept of ‘citizenship’ itself. You brought the following to mind (I don’t need to elaborate).

            Some notable recipients of the Charlemagne Prize (from the Wikipedia article)

            1950 Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi (inaugural recipient and ‘author’ of the plan to ethnically cleanse and replace the entire European population)

            1956 Winston Churchill

            1987 Henry Kissinger

            1999 Tony Blair

            2000 Bill Clinton

            2004 John Paul II

            2006 Jean-Claude Juncker

            2008 Angela Merkel (current custodian of Section 130)

            2010 Donald Tusk

            2016 Pope Francis

            2018 Emmanuel Macron

            … and watching the Ukraine implode under the government (sic) – junta regime – of Poroshenko is depressingly bewildering.

    • Monika Schaefer, a Canadian, has requested that if you write to, you leave the envelope unsealed and do not enclose cash or cheque. Her video on Youtube is called “Sorry, Mom, I was wrong about the Holocaust.”

  6. Toben mentioned what I had intended to say, that is male circumcision, the idea that nopain exists is what I understand is or has been the ideology, whreas the baby unable to express a language that now has to be interpreted, in terms of meaning, it seems to me the trauma is certainly unmistakable, that is a legalized torture for the begining of a soul to become inhuman.
    As mentioned the Jewish humiliation began long before the Napolean war with Britain, that means they were given the few trades of what a more higher or noble culture endorsed, they were in the West a type of low life and given the unsavoury trade of usury, however where this ideology began to turn to the opposite of status is when the Jews became conscience that they now controled those who despised them, that is the Gentiles and others also I think the same modus operandi happened in the far East.
    The Western power structures such as Britain as a result of the development of technology and the enforcement of overseas monarchy that controlled the indigenous British as is established today The Monarchy of Britain, having a natural almost ability to appear superior, and therefor more or les were superior, this weakness of a population being servile as a result of loss or not having the benefit of a charter of protection, the Magna Carta did little for the commoners.
    I would like topoint out that readers who think I am anti Monarchy is not useful to me nor true, the fact that the Queen can act out her part as a duty is commendable, also weird, but the relization is she having no choice but to play her part as if she did not the repercussions would be great not only thaat the ritual now embeded deeply within the psyche of the British, and also security agencies such as MI5 and private security is all part of a giant industry.
    We have to know she has to cooperate with names such as the Rothschilds and also having to cohort with paedophiles like Savage as they are all part of the establishment that having gone one step too far is even she becomes a unwilling cohort of the unsavoury nevertheless as one can see the corruption or moral decay within this family having corporate status is able to reinvent itself.
    I am stating the obvious the revenge of the finance industry which is largely a iceburg as to how far there tentacles go which is to all facets of existence, as one can hear on ABC 621, Norman Swan who talks on how the medical poffesion or hospitals can be rewarde for either killing people or destroying them in some way, this is all done by finance, also Al Walheed after this program is a lesson in philosophy of the use in language of non meaning is useful in how a well known celebrity can earn big money for stating nothing.
    We have today such a array of theories as what is pertinent that no one knows what priority is required to unravell what we need to know, certainly if we take symptoms such as the Boson marathon bombing is of interest in comparison to what? the news daily states the immigration problem where do we put them? Germany for cheap labor ar they compensation for Germany WW2 pure race to fuck German women to disolve the pure race ideology? the question why do they exist does not come even into the question? the Colonist countries sell arms to despot culures to destroy themselves, and to exploit there resouces and mainly for the satifaction of those behind the military industries that persecuted the Jews for centuries now can control and destroy vast amounts of countries and the taxpayers are all part of it and no one can blow the whistle as there is no whistle big enough to get it??
    The only thing left for the individual is to shut the fuck up, and to keep fucking untill we get to 10 billion and kill as many as possible as a past time and to take drugs.

    • As distant from logic and evidence that your opinion piece is, no doubt you believe Australian Aborigines practiced circumcision as part of the same plot. The genesis of circumcision is common sense, as acknowledged by many cultures over several millennia. By coincidence, I will be attending an Aboriginal circumcision ceremony next weekend and the “victim” has been looking forward to this for the last couple of years.

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  8. oops – the slide I wanted to post was from Julian Assange September 2009: he states:
    “I thought I was hard bitten & cynical & had a seen a lot of the world, but what I discovered is that actually I was very ignorant. And what most people see is an illusion.

    Because what most people get is news that comes from press releases… targeted at you. It is designed in some small way to manipulate you, so it is a deviation from the truth.

    And if we are to produce a more civilised society, a more just society, it has to be based upon the truth.
    Because judgements which are not based upon the truth can only lead to outcomes which are themselves false.”

    • Bewdy, Diane. Thanks Julian.

      “Because what most people get is news that comes from press releases… targeted at you”

      Don, I am sorry you are discouraged. And i agree with you tha the monarchy is always being pushed around. Nevertheless the queen has a mouth; she can speak. Let her speak.

  9. Fredrick, one small jurisdiction in Germany has outlawed circumcision since 2012. In that same year Tasmania Law Reform considered outlawing it for adult males (a case having been brought by an Aboriginal man, I think). It is not routinely done in Australian hospitals anymore. In Israel a mother was fined for not allowing it but the Human Rights court stuck up for her.

    I think male circumcision is a lost cause if it reaches court, as all medical “assaults” require informed consent and the baby can’t give it.

  10. My son was circumsized when he was 10 due to the opening closing up, he couldn’t wee and it turned into a medical emergency in the end…
    I wouldn’t wish that on any child of any age, he suffered so badly because of it..:(

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