by Dee McLachlan
No authority seems to want to deal with ‘wrongful child removals’.
I rode up to Sydney to attend a Malicious Prosecution trial — Pastor Paul Robert Burton and Dr Andrew Katelaris brought a CIVIL case of “maliciously prosecution” against two top government officials Lloyd Babb and Michael Coutts Trotter. It was to go over five days, and I arrived to be there on the second day.
Who are these government officials?
Mr Babb was the Director Of Public Prosecutions and Mr Coutts-Trotter was the Secretary of FACS NSW. By the way, the executive in charge of all children in NSW was once a heroin addict and convicted of drug trafficking in 1984. He then married Tanya Plibersek — one of Labor’s most prominent figures. And Lloyd Babb In his role as the New South Wales Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP), twice oversaw a decision not to prosecute Adrian Attwater and Paul Maris for the sexual assault that led to the death of indigenous woman Lynette Daley.
The maliciousness of this case PAUL ROBERT BURTON AND ANDREW KATELARIS v
LLOYD BABB & MICHAEL COUTTS TROTTER began when FACS removed a child from his parents unlawfully about 5 years ago.
The facts as presented by Burton clearly demonstrated that the department under Coutts-Trotter…
“were already planning to remove the child on grounds they knew were false. [And] To remove a child on grounds you know are false and without the correct delegated authority is a criminal act and amounts to abduction, this is one of the reasons Mr Coutts-Trotter wished to silence us, it clearly goes to the Malice.”
You see, video footage of the ‘abduction’ of the child (with disabilities) was broadly publicised on social media by thousands of people. At the same time, Channel 7 published a story identifying the child and the family — after the children’s court had begun. But the authorities only targeted two people: Burton and Katelaris. Their actions of prosecuting Burton and Katelaris for breaching s105 (and naming the child) were clearly malicious.
“the Plaintiffs were singled out. The clear un-contradicted evidence shows that the real purpose of the action was to silence and punish and to make examples of the Plaintiffs.”
The government tries to silence and prosecute those child protectors.
As with so many child removals, this is no different: children are harmed whilst in the care of the government.
“The child spent over a year and a half in a room at The Quest Hotel Newcastle with an entire floor dedicated to children removed unlawfully by the state.”
The process of restoring the child to his family took well over two years. In that time the child spent around 1 ½ years in The Quest Hotel in Newcastle. He was denied the love of his family and all physical and spiritual connections. He was removed on known false grounds, and he was removed violently — and began seizing after that violent removal.
This is business as usual. Across Australia, departments are causing extreme trauma to children via dramatic and cruel removals.
So on day 2 of the case, I sat with a group of supporters as Paul (self-represented) called his first witness –former FACS media officer, Tom Webster, who appeared in the court by video link. Webster, who seemed most uncomfortable at having to front the court, could not recall anything that had happened … “I don’t recall … I don’t recall”. It was like a Monty Python sketch, with the two defendants’ barrister, Gregory Bateman, regularly objecting and Judge Robert Weber repeatedly saying Paul was also trying to cross-examine his own witness, which was not allowed — and disallowing any documents in evidence to jog the witnesses’ memory.
You remember the parrot sketch: “I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I’m looking at one right now.” “No he’s not dead, he’s restin’! Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Blue”
The second government witness — Blair Collier, a former executive assistant to Mr Coutts-Trotter — was equally evasive.
When Andrew Katelaris took to the stand, he wanted to tell the court about how this case all started (this was reported in The Newcastle Herald):
“Judge Weber also warned Dr Katelaris about his actions in the court, saying at one stage Dr Katelaris was “dangerously close to contempt” for repeatedly trying to talk about the details of the child being taken [unlawfully] by the authorities…”
It seemed that all of the witnesses called would be hostile and the plaintiffs closed their case. The defendants called no witnesses and the trial was over before lunch.
For five years Paul and Andrew have wanted to air the malfeasance of the child department — that this child was unlawfully removed. But no court wants to hear matters of state child abduction. The judge did not want to listen to the wrongfully removing but the evidence is already in.
How can the initiating malicious action that resulted in exposing the actions of the government not be relevant?
Final submissions will be delivered at the Sydney District Court John Maddison Tower Building 86-90 Goulburn St on 5 April 2023 — from 10 am.
Section 43
This is the quote from Paster Paul Robert Burton’s recent Facebook post:
“I believe the removal of every child using section 43 in NSW is unlawful, that means the removal of every child by the State amounts to abduction and this has been going on for years. the stolen generation continues today and now the net is much wider.
The NSW State Gov is stealing children for profit right under your noses, the removals are unlawful under section 250 and it is well known that the department removes children on false grounds.
I am proving this in Sydney District Court John Maddison Tower Building 86-90 Goulburn St on 5 April 2023 — from 10 am. The real question, however, is are the states and territories running rogue with the constitution, and on the State level, we are not a democracy but a corporate fascist dictatorship.
See Burton v Secretary, Department of Communities and Justice [2020] NSWCA68 at 18.
“Even if the separation of powers found in Chapter III of the Commonwealth Constitution applied at the State level (which it does not: see Lazarus v Independent Commission Against Corruption (2017) 9420 NSWLR 36; [2017] NSWCA 37 at [106])”
If you care about our children and grandchildren and you wish to stop state-condoned child trafficking and child abuse please join me it’s an open court like all courts are supposed to be in a democracy.
In the alternative if you do nothing please don’t come crying to us when they take your children or grandchildren, currently, 5.1% of all children in Australia are the subject of some kind of intervention by these departments and this is growing rapidly.”
The case will conclude on the 5th of April at the John Maddision tower building Sydney from 10 am ( Courtroom TBA) for final oral submissions. Be there if you can.
“You see, video footage of the ‘abduction’ of the child (with disabilities) was broadly publicised by many people — including channel 7. But the authorities only targeted two people: Burton and Katelaris. Their actions of prosecuting Burton and Katelaris for breaching s105 (and naming the child) were clearly malicious.”
Channel 7 Sydney. Dee, is that the building kitty-corner to Lindt Cafe?
Yes
Commentators may carefully consider their opinions without sufficient knowledge of matters pertinent to the proceedings and circumstances.
There is a ‘general’ rule of thumb, that a litigant who acts for himself has a fool for a client. Of course, that is a general rule and in some cases the litigant accomplishes more by being unrepresented. Especially if they have been given some legal guidance beforehand. The courts can be ‘tiger country’.
What the Lindt cafe has to do with anything pertinent to these proceedings is beyond me, as I opined, carefully, reflect by inference, ‘best put brain into gear before fiddling’. Or one may be riding the TIGER.
I can say for sure that Pastor Paul has got further than any representation could bring. His Court of Appeal action was a land mark case where the court agreed he (or anyone) could sue a public official in their name (and not just the department or office)
Interestingly as an aside there is compelling evidence that Man Haron Moris lost parental custody of his children and was fighting in the courts for their return so he could take them back to his home country, there is strong anecdotal evidence that Ch 7 promised to help him run a show about his court cases but then changed their mind and that in a desperate attempt to bring national attention he requested to speak with the Prime Minister hence the lindt cafe event. I dont know if this is true but I do know that he lost his children before this event and I have a comprehensive report about it (albeit somewhat biased) so in my view he may well have been a parent pushed too far and then portrayed as a nut job terrorist……food for thought and worthy of a real investigation xxx Paul
Really!
Raiding the Lindt cafe killing as relevant to your case in regard to speculative matters is dangerous.
So let us indicate where discussion on that topic could go and include?
A charge of murder for a start, upon which man whoever was bailed and also on other charges and how he was granted bail.
Such matters raised by you could hardly assist your case…. Surely?
Sorry, raiding should be ‘raising’
go here for Lindt
https://gumshoenews.com/the-lindt-cafe-inquest-99-ways-to-see-through-it/
Great idea……. Buy a chocolate.
https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/suing-the-dpp-and-facs-an-interview-with-paul-robert-burton-and-dr-andrew-katelaris/
It’s bound to have some sort of impact on the PTB but as most bods are flawed by the idea of a worldly win, not many are prepared to make the same stance
Elspeth — good find… 2020 article
Indeed.
Excellent find.
some indirect but significant link from Angela Power Disney Blog
Luke McKee 2023 talking about the dangers of hate seech & basphemy laws affecting CHILDREN
I think the mistake that most parents probably make re the abduction of their kids is being way too chatty and nice to the abductors. I remember a home-ed support (non-practising) lawyer telling me “what you’ve got to remember is that these people are not your friends”
So simple and obvious really, nothing that I didn’t already “know”, but it took another 7 years to properly cotton-on
Dee is afraid of tigers like she is afraid of fruitflies type thing. I feel sorry for the bullies she is going after. Poor old coots. ‘specially in South Australia.
***https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8n8-7NBDLc
Paul, sending this for its musical message. I certainly don’t think your dream is impossible. I think you (and the gang) have already 2/3rds accomplished it.
(Starts at one minute)
Beautiful version, amazing very unique and powerful voice too xxx Paul
People in this culture don’t value kids like in traditional cultures, before, everyone was everyone else’s centrelink, childcare, employment network, old folks home, emergency food store, restaurant, labour hire, etc etc, now it is all government and privatised, kids are expected to pay for all the infrastructure they would have in the past inherited … they seem to have given up, just staring into the phone all day
Sad to see, Oz tptb lab experiment. Our youth and elderly left behind, as the mid aged are slaves to debts unjust, unable to help the most vulnerable, our children and their grandparents.
I came from a place where three generations helped each other daily. Almost 57 years after arriving at Circular Key, woke brainwashing now complete, screen time artificial only contact with family.
Looks like Oliver Twist, the Dickens reality 19th century England, was the template for domination. Have often wondered why many British people never had property there.
They unlawfully removed my great grandson from my care using a falsified and amended (to their narrative) parenting report they did on me. They traumatised not only a 6 month baby, that still has trauma but a entire family including his mum. We all suffer PTSD. Lucky for us, we had good lawyers who believed in us and the judge seen thru the lies.
What ever happened to perjury etc ? Where is justice ?
The courts (especially the children’s courts) are no longer courts… STAR CHAMBERS.
i’M sorry to hear your story Sharyn