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Questions to the Ministers of Child Protection in All States and Territories

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(L) from Queensland police news at qld.gov.au (R) Wikimedia.org

by Mary W Maxwell, LLB

I have now visited three states in Australia and met many Protective parents.  Often they asked me a question for which I did not have an answer. They set me to thinking about the role of the Child Protection Services.  It all sounds both authoritative and nice, doesn’t it?  As if there is a bureaucracy in existence to help kids, and to police bad parents.

Fine, but what is the source of authority.  Is it legislation?  Is it an order from the court?  Is it self-initiated by social workers? Or what?

Do doctors have a say, in general, as to the CPS, or DCP’s policy, rather than just in a particular case?  How are Children’s Court judges trained to deal with child matters?

I now pose 24 questions to the appropriate minister.  If any law student reading this would care to pitch in a reply as a Comment below?  Danke.

Questions to the Ministers of Child Protection in All States and Territories

  1. Doctors are statutorily fined $25,000 in some states for failure to report signs of sexual abuse. Their reports are to be made by telephone, not in writing. Do those phone calls result in a written report? Where are those kept? What statistics are available to the public in this regard?

  1. What mechanism is in place for Police to let CPS (DCP, DOCS, etc.) know if a complaint is brought to police by any person concerning sexual abuse or physical abuse of a child?
  1. What mechanism exists for anyone in CPS to respond to a report that a parent is mentally unwell and that a child could thus be at risk of harm?
  1. What criteria exist for the staff of CPS to interpret or measure “risk” to a child by the parent. For example if mother is very depressed, but not “a clinical case” in need of hospitalization, can that be grounds for involvement by any DCP-type group? Do any statutes discuss this?
  1. Does the CPS have a standard on how to act when it is clear that sexual abuse of a child is occurring?
  1. Do the 2017/18 Final Report recommendations by the Royal Commission on child sex abuse give guidance on how to take seriously any child’s statement about abuse? (The main thrust of the whole RC report is that many kids, historically, tried to report but were not believed.)
  1. Has your state’s CPS made any written response to that RC?
  1. Does your CPS have statistics as to how often a child is making up an allegation of sexual abuse, versus true statements?
  1. What guidelines are used to determine if a kid is lying? (E.g., he switches his facts, or he sounds like using the words he heard others use?)
  1. What guidelines does your CPS reference as to verification that the allegations sound correct – such as that his age group would not know human anatomy well enough to say certain things?
  1. What has CPS published as to its responsibility for dealing with reported sexual or physical abuse? Does it call Police and file a complaint? A crime needs to be prosecuted? How can the DPP find out what is happening?
  1. Allegations of parental alienation are now very common, in CPS’s, almost universal, as against a parent who reports child abuse?
  1. Does this seem reasonable to you, Minister? That is, should the “coaching” be taken as a given?  Does the accused coacher have any right to due process? Can he or she find a platform for refuting such a vague thing?
  1. The Royal Commission, as stated above, showed that NOT being believed was the major reason why the abuse ran on for so long. What if the mum or dad of an abused child had been told to NOT ask questions of a child about the abuse? Would that defeat any move towards truth?
  1. Percentage-wise, what assumption does CPS make that a parent is coaching or alienating? Is it near 30? Perhaps 90?  If very high, how does the CPS know that its standard accusation is wise?
  1. Have any credible doctors confirmed what he/thinks the statistic should be?
  1. What educational background is required of CPS staff to qualify its members to be able to make sound judgment as to the quality of a child/parent relationship?
  1. In the initial training of new employees of your CPS, is there a section guiding that person to make a presumption of coaching by the parent?
  1. Who established that training protocol?
  1. Is the employee trained to disbelieve a child’s allegations?
  1. Are they trained to see a mum whose kid has been removed as being “too emotional”? Is she considered “mental”?  Should she be dealt with in some way other than to empathize with her?  Does she have any credibility to CPS? 
  1. What is the statutory basis for DOCS or CPS or DCP (hereinafter CPS) to be involved in the emotional relationship between a child and its parent?
  1. What is the Jurisdiction of the Children’s Court to order any placement of, or treatment of, a child? How is this related to legislation?
  1. From whence does a CPS derive its mission? How does it report to state parliament? Do its social workers have a disciplinary board, and if not why not?

I am an individual with limited access to the answers to the above information, hence have posed questions.

My anecdotal experience so far with numerous mothers, and 2 fathers, is that the women (not the men) who bring forward a claim that the child has been abused are immediately “clobbered” with accusations of being a mental case. (And apparently Mum has got to be a liar if she mentions sexual abuse.)

Again, my experience with both mums and dads is that the Children’s Court, or the relevant Helping Organization (Child Protective Services, Department of Child Safety, etc), do not want to entertain any discussion about a child’s physical or sexual abuse. (Wow! despite our famous Royal Commission).

Note: this is true even where the physical abuse has led to hospitalization of the injured kid.

Yet they happily roll out a great “concern” about a child living with an over-concerned parent as if concern has suddenly become a blight on that person’s character.

Again, wow.

What can all this mean?

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35 COMMENTS

  1. Thank you for your work and dedication to this issue Mary. You and Dee are godsends.

    I was at risk of being taken away from my mother for only economic reasons in the 1960’s. If that had have happened I do not think i would be alive today.

    God knows how many very hurt, traumatised sexually abused little kids there are out there. We know of one baby/toddler (at the time) who has had it happen to her because her drug addicted mother rented her out to pedo men.

    She was luckly, she has had 2 years of treatment but still has behaviour problems

  2. A number of doctors have been charged with sexual abuse themselves. Just look at the registry for the past 10 to 15 years.

    Excellent questions but who is going to enforce it and who is going to have the proper checks and balances? As you say where is the legislation or is it just a policy that was made up? More questions bring more questions and doubt…

    We all know from the past 50 odd years and before that children were being systematically abused by the whole system as the Royal Commission said it was “systemic.” It was also covered up by Roman Catholic police, Social Services, by the ‘church’ and the judicial system itself etc.

    To those brave, courageous and tenacious activists/victims who persevered through the decades to bring this to light of the public in which the media and press should have done their job decades ago is abysmal!

    I have been involved in two Royal Commissions as well and I know what is involved as it is a hard slog to get governments to act appropriately to uncover the truth that they want hidden.

    Well done Mary for your concern and you insightful questions. 🙂

  4. Thank you Mary and Dee for your work. Many doctors and medical professionals do not do mandatory reporting of physical and or sexual abuse. The medical professionals who do the correct thing and report, seem to be ignored.

    • Carol, teachers are also required to report. I wish any teacher reading this would email his/her minister of child protection just to ask the one question, not mentioning child’s name:

      “When I make a mandatory report of child abuse, where does the information go and what is done about it?”

      (A teacher is someone a kid might trust to talk to, but also a teacher is one who may see signs of injury or recognize a behavioural problem. Teachers are importanto. Yay for teachers!)

  5. Here again is Irene Holmes. I have twice run her wonderful song in which she teaches her little girl to imitate her 3 older brothers. The reason the 4 kids are in foster care is that they were living in an RV (caravan).

    Today I just want to note that around the 15-minute mark she says the state (or county) ordered her to get a psychological evaluation from Dr O’Leary who declared she is retarded and paranoid.

    Then her lawyer told her that anyone who is sent to Dr O’Leary for evaluation gets called retarded and paranoid.

  6. Mary you ask “What can all this mean?” My conglomerate responds-albeit a bit chaotically, my mind is full.

    This means that the “system,” the organisations, the governments, the “grandmasters” and “grand dames” have deliberately created generational family trauma and dysfunction through the use of deliberately installed scientifically designed mind control programs that create multiple/fragmented personalities who obey orders robotically. The Tavistock Agenda. Royal Commission findings, MSM what Alison Miller author of “Healing the Unimaginable,” calls the “Big Lie” are all part of the grand plan.

    Alison Miller tells it as it is, I quote and paraphrase from “Shattered but Unbroken: Voices of Triumph and Tragedy” page 221.
    “children [families] have been harmed by more than just traumatised perpetrators passing on their own abuse and dysfunction to the next generation”–” they have, as children, been traumatised by highly organised evil”. “we know of the doctors who experimented in heinous ways on children, in the concentration camps, a place where there were no ethical guidelines for research on human beings.” Alison goes on to say– what is generally not known is that these experiments by international experts have been used to guide international political and criminal groups who wanted to learn how to train children to participate in illegal activities their whole lives without their conscious knowledge of this participation.
    ” The Key was to create dissociative disorders in those children through severe, life threatening trauma. Many groups, particularly religious ones, have already been doing this, but not in a scientific manner.”
    She then refers to Wendy Hoffman’s personal experience of over 75 years “where she traces some of the early connections between the Nazi doctors, US and international political groups, secret societies [in her case the Illuminati and a hidden group within the Freemasons}, magical religions which connected worship with sexual violence, and traditional organised crime involving child prostitution and pornography, human trafficking, and drug smuggling.”

    Australia is central to the global network. The foundation the infrastructure was set when the military invasion took place in 1788. Massacres, murders, torture, brutality, secret societies–the Great Australian Silence.

    The series: The Cult of the Family exposes the experiments and coverups. It exposes how Melbourne was known to be leading LSD experiments that were an essential component to William Sargant’s and Dr Cunningham Dax’s [both proteges of Dr Rawlings Rees] brainwashing, research and experiments, including electric convulsive shock treatment, lobotomy /leukotomy and induced “deep sleep” states where “personalities were created and programmed into the psyche.

    Two links: the first –the enormity of the struggle -to stop this machine.

    https://www.wanttoknow.info/mk/child-trafficking-documentary

    This is relevant to the place where the mosque shooter grew up prior to his international travels.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-12-14/tamworth-boys-home/3730396

    Oh I don’t think the Maffia got a mention.

  7. With regard to Dianes article in The Family here in Australia, is parrallel to this in Britain the CIA were working within the confines of The Tavistock Institute and were involved with supplies of pure LSD, and this is around the 1960s and were experiementing with this drug and also RD Laing was all part of this also having a cult following, after WW2, much confusion as to what was happening as in my opinion the Imperialist nations had been all part of this dilema, also obedience to authority and being submisive was rife, although the Hippies were a contribution to freeing up and looking at authority and becoming from a different point of view, certainly porn was rife as the authority in the pre war and post war obedience to authority were all part of the perversion that also as can be seen by he Pell situation pervversion comes from unquestioned power.

  8. From my files: re R D Laing
    … R.D. Laing was appointed senior registrar at the Tavistock Clinic in 1956, three years after he left the British Army Psychiatric Unit. He began experimenting with LSD in 1960, and then in 1962 when he became a family therapist at the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations, he also met Gregory Bateson while visiting the U.S. Bateson had been with the Office of Strategic Services (forerunner of the CIA), and then led the MK-Ultra hallucinogen (LSD) project. Bateson’s and Margaret Mead’s daughter, Mary Catherine Bateson, along with New Ager Jean Houston, would later help Hilary Clinton write IT TAKES A VILLAGE. IN 1964 Laing met LSD proponent Timothy Leary in New York and also authored “Transcendental Experience in Relation and Psychosis” (THE PSYCHEDELIC REVIEW, Vol. 1, No. 3, 1964). Three years later Laing participated in the July 15-30 1967 Dialectics of Liberation Congress.

    Re The Family: Anne Hamilton Byrne many of the children and sect members spent their time between Eildon, Ferny Creek, Kent Broom Farm, London The Catskills NY and Hawaii.

  9. In WA a biological parent reporting child abuse must first report it to the DCP which is privately owned and they decide if police are to become involved I did this and they accused me of making the story up to get back at the ex and would not even take a statement from me while at the same time they did not tell me that some weeks before the ex’s boyfriend at the time reported to police that my daughter monique was abused at a party by the friend of the pedophile that I was reporting for abusing my daughter on 2 occasions after I got a tip off then later finding out the ex (the abusive parent) did some kind of deal with the DCP to guarantee her custody through the family court (which is also privately owned in WA) in exchange for supplying my daughter to pedophile groups on request with no fear of prosecution I have no doubt this is happening in all states

      • Also, Wayne, you say:

        “while at the same time they did not tell me that some weeks before the ex’s boyfriend at the time reported to police that my daughter monique was abused at a party.

        I am interested to know how the cat got out of the bag. That is, how did you finally learn of it. (No need to reply if you need to keep it secret). Thank you.

        • The cat got out of the bag when the boyfriend split with the ex and I befriended him for info which he gave me in txt msg’s that I took pics of explaining how the ex did not want to report my daughters abuse at the party which was the start of the split also other txt’s saying how he found her stash under a btm drawer of around $7k a mobile phone and gold jewelry another saying how he over heard her telling friends that she can get my daughter to bali then thailand without her passport that the court held at the time and also one of her friends that she had a falling out with gave me the info on my daughters second abuser all of the above the FC and police were not interested in

      • It was my first FC visit in the waiting room that a guy told me the WAFC is privately owned I didn’t ask by who in fact it went over my head with to much else on my mind around a year later another told me same and said its owned by the masons and there is a tunnel from the courts to the mason lodge a few streets over then there was the vid by a brendon o’connel explaining the lot and the corruption in the lloyd rayney case which ended up putting him in jail

  10. A bit more from the “files”: Secret Drug experiments–brain washing, interrogation, mind control, programming, mass mind control— not just Nazi /Scientists/ doctors.
    “During the Second World War, Tavistock was part of Great Britain’s Psychological Warfare Department. On May 7, 1944, Dr. Rees of Tavistock and the British War Ministry injected Nazi prisoner Rudolf Hess with the narcotic Evipan. According to Lt. Col. Eugene Bird in PRISONER NO. 7: RUDOLF HESS (in the chapter titled “A Secret Drug”), Rees examined Hess 35 times. Rees and his associates via chemicals caused Hess’s memory to fail and then “explained that they could bring back the memory with an injection of Evipan.” Hess was told that “while under its influence he would remember the past he had forgotten.”

  12. The SA gov gazette of December 2016 yielded at least this much:

    “Judge Eldridge, as the principal judicial officer of the court, remains administratively responsible for a court consisting of four judicial officers; and • in addition, the judge is responsible for managing the conferencing unit of the Youth Court.

    “The conferencing unit consists of youth justice coordinators who conduct family conferences in accordance with the Young Offenders Act 1993, and care and protection coordinators who conduct family care meetings in accordance with the Children’s Protection Act 1993. **

    “These coordinators comprise allied health professionals including social workers and psychologists, and other professional officers, including lawyers and teachers. At present the staff of the unit consists of 22 professional officers and four administrative officers. The judge is responsible for the administration of the unit including the appointment of the coordinators.”

    (So far I don’t see the basis of coordination with the seemingly powerful Dept of Child Protection, except as mentioned near the ** asterisk.)

    • Mia, it really is easy to research it. I am in travel status so can’t do a proper job. If you have time, please look up the child safety act in each state. If you have even more time, please chart the dates — did every state get the same inspiration all at once?

      Google is pretty satisfactory and thank God the Austlii.edu.au website has stopped being obscurantist. Still, I’m afraid you would also have to look up each state’s constitution (or just the one for your state) and see how the judiciary is set out.

      I am pretty sure the state Children’s Courts are not real courts, other than in name. They are administrative organs created by Parliament. Possibly they do not honor “due process.”

      Per Magna Charta, one due process requirement is that you get to see (and nowadays cross-examine) any witness against you, but I think Family Law Act gave itself an exemption.

      The secrecy of these courts is not legal either. Why? Because Society is the judge, not the appointed judge. Any decision about justice has to be very public.

      Mia, I don’t know if you are one of the aggrieved Mums. If you are, there is hope insofar as the Bully Factor is now being exposed and thus should be harder to maintain.

      But if Diane is right, and she probably is, that Tavistock is in charge, we will see more raw cruelty coming up as we try to fight this. Cruelty is not shameful to them; it is a badge of honor.

    • It is my observation that the NT is used to demonstrate/create a scandal -call an inquiry/ a royal commission and then bring in the “Reforms” and new legislation to “fix” it -these new policies will then be rolled out across the country. [I believe there is a eugenics and depopulation global agenda influencing this]

      This report 2011-worth a read:

      “NORTHERN TERRITORY GOVERNMENT

      Growing Them Strong, Together

      Child Protection External Monitoring and Reporting Committee

      Report following Second Meeting, May 26-27 2011
      Alice Springs

      Executive Summary

      The Child Protection External Monitoring and Reporting Committee (CPEMRC) was appointed by the Minister for Child Protection, the Hon Kon Vatskalis MLA, to undertake an independent monitoring role in regard to the implementation of the reforms agreed to by the Northern Territory Government following the release of the Growing them Strong, Together report of the Board of Inquiry (BOI) in October 2010. The Committee reports to the Northern Territory Parliament through the Minister for Child Protection every six months on the progress of implementation of the reforms. This is the Committee’s first report.”

      In 2016 NT Royal Commission into Child Protection and Youth Detention as a result of the Four Corners Report : Dondale Detention Centre: Australia’s Shame.

      Then this—-new policies //!!!—-

      https://territoryfamilies.nt.gov.au/about/publications-and-policies/child-protection-and-out-of-home-care-policies

  15. Two things:

    1) Has anyone considered that the first person to contact the ‘relevant authorities’ concerning abuse sets off some kind of hidden governmental or judicial transaction?
    And that the person accused is therefore to be demonized for the lack of a better term?

    My theory is that most women win custody because they usually are the first to go to said authorities. Note the word theory.

    2) Isn’t this what an enemy foreign state would want? ( “state” is a bit of a loose label)

    • Justin, from the stats I’ve seen, it depends on many factors — and we will try to explain how this all works.
      But with regard to reporting sexual abuse, the children (or the abuse reporter) are generally not believed.

  16. Thank you, Dee. But how would my question stand if we ruled out the cases of sexual abuse and concentrated on non sexual abuse cases?
    Has it changed over the last 10 or 20 years? I say this because I could name many males who lost the custody battles, but only one female has lost the custody battle. But none of these involved allegations of sexual abuse.
    We do need to remember that custody battle decisions have been deranged since at least the 1980s. I’m sure some aspects would have changed over this time.

    • Justin, I don’t think Dee will mind my saying that she is not an encyclopedia of custody statistics. How about you research it for us — the proportion of (non-sexual-abuse cases) where the Mum wins custody.

      I have read (but not sufficiently verified) that the overall policy of Fam-court nowadays is to award Equal Custody.

      I personally know a girl who is constantly on the move between the homes of Mum and Dad. She is OK with that. Myself, I’d have trouble remembering where I left my toothbrush.

      Anyway, Id like to say, for newcomers, that Gumshoe’s involvement for the last 8 months in this topic is based on the sex abuse custody cases, where it seems almost Standard Office Procedure to award the child to the abuser. That should raise eyebrows on many issues.

  17. Mary
    I think you have to listen to Wayne Glew to understand what he is talking about if you do not already know of him. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wayne+glew&t=opera&ia=web He is one of many who explains what is legal and illegal and is a stickler to the Australian Constitution as he talks about the courts which are illegal according to him and his presentations. He used to be an ex police

  18. I suspect that references to the family court being a private court, relate to a much larger concern that some “government departments” have ABN’s and can have several trading names which would appear to make them private business.

    Under Section 51 of the commonwealth of Australia constitution – Powers of Parliament, the Commonwealth Government can only pass legislation in relation to, trading corporations, financial corporations or foreign corporations.

    What is happening is that organisations seem to be developing which don’t fit into any of the above corporation types.

    I believe there is even a Court of some type in NSW or Victoria that is involved with traffic matters but which is nothing more than a computer.

    Even the ATO is not a legal entity. – Moeliker v Chapman B8_2000 [2000] HCA Trans 242 (17 May 2000) (2)

    • I first became aware that certain “government departments” were being represented by private law firms instead of the Crown Solicitor’s Office in 2004 after I lodged an appeal against a REBA decision. My oldest son was likewise confronted after a run-in with the “department” now registered as “Borderforce”. Both cases were manipulated by the respective lawyers via multiple breaches of court rules, in both cases we both refused to pay the Court-Ordered costs accordingly, and neither refusal was ever met with any repercussions. In both instances the message was loud and clear:
      a)The privatisation heist is essentially lawlessness
      and
      b) It’s wholly reliant on OUR cooperation

      Most people don’t realise that the whole “job centre/work-for-the-dole” scenario is likewise dependent; no doubt there are numerous parallels that pivot on OUR permission

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