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The 911 Elephants in The Room

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The Mainstream Media (MSM), Canberra and on again last Monday night on ABC’s QandA – all ignore the elephant in the room. They never dare to question the voluminous evidence, the witnesses, the whistle-blowers, the parents and the thousands of scientific professionals that have the gravity of evidence on their side that goes towards explaining what might have really happened on 9-11.

As a result the MSM perpetuate unquestioningly Washington’s most fantastical and fanciful theory as fact – and thus the whole discussion on QandA or on any Australian news program is not only a sham, it is dishonest.

A deceit on the people of Australia. 

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The actions of the Neocons in Washington divided the world, and for the last 13 years the losers in Australia have been the Muslim community (as they struggle to maintain their dignity) and those soldiers who lost their lives in Afghanistan. We might never know the true details of that day, but if one takes the time to review the evidence, it seems that the mostly Saudi hijackers were most likely patsies to a more dastardly plan. And that the Muslim world (especially Iraq) was the subject of an illegal and criminal plot of pre-planned destruction. A plan that was well under way before September 2001. Ret. General Wesley Clarke (Supreme Allied Commander Europe of NATO from 1997 to 2000) clearly and unequivocally explains this in the video below.

The situation in Iraq is not, as former PM John Howard described – ’embarrassing’ – it is shameful. It was an egregious, and we were drawn into an evil plot to divide and conquer. Appalling beyond description. We were told by the MSM to focus our vengeance (and hate) on the Muslim world. And the west complied with stunning consequences. Mayhem and now more mayhem with ISIS as the blow back result.

And today, with the propagation of this ‘evidence suppression’ over the facts surrounding the 9-11 attacks and the refusal of our politicians to look at the facts, Canberra has been busy eroding our civil liberties.

Back to the media:

Have they done this out of indifference or sheer disbelief? (As a popular ABC radio personality described it like “debating whether the earth is flat“). Or has presenting an unbiased view of 9-11 been negligence?  Although some programs that pretend to question the evidence get aired, by and large most serious work is not. 

In the best case, these media organisations have been ‘bamboozled’ by the politics of the day to toe the line – to present only Washington’s theory that spawned within a few hours of the towers collapsing.

In the worst case, some of the heads of these organisations have conspired to conceal the evidence to this murderous event. And these Australians should be called to account. There has been suppression of criminal evidence, and in doing so they have helped keep our politicians in the dark too. A pity – as a good honest media story always shines a light on honourable politicians.

 

So, this is what the MSM (and Canberra) tell you what happened on 9-11:

19 hijackers (apparently seven are still alive) hijacked 4 planes and flew 3 of them into buildings. Two towers collapsed because of the two plane impacts and the subsequent fires, and one flew into the Pentagon. The fourth crashed in Pennsylvania. Within hours fingers pointed to Osama Bin Laden (from a cave or hideout in Afghanistan) as the mastermind behind the attack.

That day divided the the world – and precipitated a war against the Muslim world.

 

With exceptional brevity – this is what the MSM and Canberra DO NOT tell you:

1. Building 7

Building 7 was not hit by a plane, but this 47 storey skyscraper (that had no significant fire damage) came down in a perfect demolition-style collapse at 5.20 pm later that same day.

With over 400 cases, no other steel skyscraper has ever collapsed due to fire. The Leaseholder of the WTC stated in a PBS documentary that, “maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse,” (but later retracted the meaning of the statement). There is no logical explanation other than explosives.

 

2. Explosive Evidence and Molten metal

Evidence of explosive material and sophisticated demolition of both towers. Over 2,000 architects and engineers have been investigating this and have put their careers on the line (on architects and engineers for 911 truth).

  • Active thermitic material consisting of ‘nano-engineered iron oxide and aluminium particles’ were found in the dust. Evidence of thermite incendiaries is found by FEMA in steel samples. 
  • Multi-ton steel sections and concrete slabs were ejected laterally hundreds of feet, creating a 1200-foot-diameter debris field surrounding each of the twin Towers – excluding unassisted gravitational collapse. 
  • The destruction of the towers proceeding through the path of greatest resistance at nearly free-fall acceleration with rapid onset of destruction.  
  • Over 100 first responders reporting explosions and flashes. Evidence of explosion damage in the basement and foyer, and records of seismic anomalies. 
  • Mid-air pulverizationof 90,000 tons of concrete & metal decking, massive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like clouds, and no “pancaked” floors found, with isolated explosive ejections 20–40 storeys below demolition front. 
  • Total building destruction and angled dismemberment of steel frame typical of demolition, though this demolition was initiated from point of plane impact. 
  • Several tons of molten metal found under all 3 high-rises (weeks later). 
  • The very floors impacted by the plane and the resulting fires, were the very floors that had upgraded fireproofing done in 2000 and 2001.

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Below are just some of the many anomalies. Some of these are also used to deflect from the real evidence – e.g. the molten steel. But they are worth noting.

3. Foreknowledge

Susan Lindauer’s book EXTREME PREJUDICE exposes the real facts surrounding the CIA’s advance warnings of 9/11 and Iraq’s contributions. Before 9-11, she was the go between for Iraq and was working on a comprehensive peace framework, which would have accomplished all major U.S. objectives in Baghdad without a single casualty. She writes that her CIA handler, Richard Fuisz, was aware of the hijacking plot and she was warned off going to New York. After 9-11 she tried to get Andrew Card, Chief of Staff, to dissuade the Bush administration from going to war with Iraq, and, was as a result, the first American woman to be charged under the Patriot Act.

4. Trading Spike

There was a spike in trading in ‘put options’ before 9/11.  The Bloomberg News reported that put options on the airlines surged to the phenomenal high of 285 times their average, and these on the two specific airlines that were used by the hijackers, United Airlines and American Airlines. There were surges too, in purchases of put options on stocks of reinsurance companies and WTC tenants.

5. War Games

There were WAR GAMES going on that morning – and Dick Cheney was in command of NORAD that day. So Bush et al lied when they said there was no way they could conceive of such an attack. In a 2004 BBC report, there was a comment made by air traffic control personnel, “is this real world or an exercise?“. The several drills that morning only became publicly known later: OPERATION NORTHERN VIGILANCE – jet fighters sent to Alaska and Canada; BIOWARFARE EXERCISE TRIPOD II (Rudolph Giuliani in his testimony to the 9/11 Commission); OPERATION VIGILANT GUARDIAN – simulating hijacked planes, plus two other exercises.

war games(see: Drills matching exactly what happened in the London 7/7 bombings)

6. Stand-down

On the morning of 9-11 there was an air defense stand-down resulting in no air response for the most fortified building in the world (even though Andrews Air Force Base is 10 miles away). The Pentagon was hit 1 hour and 20 minutes after the attacks began. Norman Mineta (Secretary of Transport) testified that Vice President Dick Cheney gave orders to “stand-down” on an incoming plane.

7. No Video Released

Although The Pentagon has hundreds of security cameras, no more than a few frames were released. The ‘plane’ penetrated the newly renovated side, taking out the computers and killing many of the budget analysts investigating the missing $2.3 Trillion dollars which Donald Rumsfeld had announced the day before – 10th of September.

8. Witnesses experience explosions

100′s of Firefighter and witness testimony to BOMBS/EXPLOSIONS was ignored by the 9/11 Commission Report. The 9/11 Commission Report bars 503 1st responder eyewitnesses.  William Rodriguez and many witnesses experienced explosions in the foyer and the basement, including Barry Jennings in Building 7. Jennings was Deputy Director of the Emergency Services Department for the New York City Housing Authority.

 

9. Bone Fragments

Over 750 bone fragments (most 1/8 inch) were found on top of the 40-storey Deutsche Bank building,  300 feet from the South Tower. 200 fragments from one person were found in the dust. Some 20,000 fragments recovered. The people in the buildings were not crushed. They were turned into dust.

11. Able Danger

Lieutenant-Colonel Anthony Shaffer, a top secret Pentagon project code-named Able Danger had identified Mohammed Atta and three other 9/11 hijackers as members of an al-Qaida cell more than a year before the attacks.  Schaffer’s decision to expose Operation Able Danger has given rise to some difficult questions as U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM) protected Atta prior to his deadly attack on the US.

You can start at 2.40

12. Bin Laden not “wanted”

Osama Bin Laden was NOT wanted by the FBI for the 9/11 attacks as there was  “No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.” CIA created, trained and funded “Al Qaeda/Taliban” during the Mujahideen. Bin Laden was a CIA asset named ‘Tim Osman’ and died many years before Obama killed him. The Bin Laden admission video was later proved a fake.

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13.  ‘Dancing ‘ Israelis

5 “Dancing” Israeli’s’ were arrested in ‘Mossad Truck Bombs’ on 9/11 and later stated on TV “We were there to document the event.”

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 14. Officials ignored

220+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials question the official story. ’9/11 Whistleblowers’, ‘Patriots for 9/11′. ‘Robert Bowman’, ‘Sibel Edmonds’, ‘Albert Stubblebine’, ‘Wesley Clark’, ‘Mark Dayton’, ‘Alan Sabrosky’, ‘Cyntha McKinney’, ‘Jesse Ventura’, ‘Kurt Sonnenfeld’. “patriotsquestion911.com” etc.

15. Tower construction

The towers were built to withstand a Boeing jet(s).

16.  Preemptive Announcement

BBC correspondent Jane Standley reported the collapse of WTC 7 (Soloman Brothers building) 20 minutes before it happened. CNN/FOX/MSNBC also had early reports.

17. 911 Commission set to fail

The 911 commission was given extremely limited funds – $15 million. (Over $60 Million was spent investigating Clintons’ affairs with Monica). There are admissions it was set up to fail.

And much more

19. The PATRIOT ACT was planned before 9/11, and signed into law October 26th, 2001.

  1.  Marvin Bush had been director of Stratasec (Securacom, ‘KuAm’) which was in charge of security of the WTC, United Airlines and Dulles International Airport. All three were breached on 9/11.

And so much more.

As a side note: I believe that within ASIO there must be analytical and intelligent Australian officers that agree with this article – and would out their views if they were not fearful of their positions. 

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I have updated this article.

335 COMMENTS

  1. Have you ever checked out the video below?

    This is when i realized what an idiot Gage is. Since you two are so chummy with Gage, could you ask him to repeat the “experiment”, but instead of dropping the small box ontop of the big box, ask him to drop the big box, ontop of the small box.

    Maybe then he understands that scaling an experiment like this is just for idiots.

    • “Mt Xing-Highrise Builder”

      Now Dalia, poor Dalia, U know nothing about Mt Xing, so do not even attempt to write a book about him.

      Aside from that, poit out the structural sections in your flooring plan of WTC7

      U know nothing about Mt Xing and nothing about engineering.

      All U can do is put trash on the internet and trash comments about your trash.

        • Thanks for the ‘compliment’ El Kammo. Well I have left the engineering to the big ‘guyes’ and interviewed one of the experts that produced the report along with the best in the world. I was most enlightened. So wait for the next article. I was just repeating was Xing told me. But thank you for drumming into me that I know nothing. It only inspires me to do more studying and be super diligent when it comes to the analysis from the engineering experts. You spell guys – guys – not guyes. Leave writing for the big girls.

        • @Dalia,
          “So wait for the next article”
          I ran out of my 3 remaining comments on your command.
          You gave a stand down order to Johnny, Xing and me.
          “Sir, does the order still stand?”

          I do not care.
          Your new investigation will be done very fast because you think you only need to take a look at one footage at your choice, job done.
          Good luck, hang them all.

    • No Dalia, the TU Delft building is not STILL standing. It has collapsed partially. Even a blind person could see that, in my opinion.

      Please try to explain why a building CAN collapse partially (and why it wouldn’t be possible to collapse completely) ?
      Be my guest and use your “logic” on that one.

      By the way, talking about the construction of WTC 7. Did you see this floor plan of the lower floors ?

      http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g171/boloboffin2/911/7WTC4Floor.jpg

      Not that it really matters but I’m afraid that you might have the illusion that all floors were constructed in the same way (it had probably nothing to do with the initiation of the collapse… It only shows what the building looked like from the interior).

      P.S.: Sorry for my belated answer… I only saw yesterday that this discussion is still going on 🙂

      • Xing,
        She claims to have read the NIST report about WTC7, and aside that, she should have studied the drawings of Cantor and Frankel Steel, to compare with the NIST drawings, so she should know all about it.
        Aside from that, she only accepts experst as exxperts when they support her crazy theories, other experts get a stand down order.

        • Oh my God Dalia… You can wait until you weigh about an ounce 🙂 You’ll never see another B7 example in your entire life because there is no OTHER building that is constructed like WTC 7. (Even the twin towers had differences).

          But hey, two can play your game you know 🙂

          Let’s have a look at this demolition that took place in Houston a couple of days ago (if I’m not mistaken).

          It’s an 18 story building…

          Please watch carefully and notice the :
          1. pyroclastic clouds (only 18 floors in this building… Imagine what kind of cloud you can expect when a building with 110 floors collapses)

          2. loud explosions (I haven’t heard those when WTC 7 came down… Did you ?

          3. debris… No damage to surrounding buildings. The whole building fell in its own footprint.

          Here’s the video :

          Now THAT’s how a controlled demolition is being done !

          Compare that to the collapse of WTC 7 and NOTICE at least that your CD-theory is not based on what really happened that day.

          You wrote that you’ve “examined/studied” (what’s in a word anyway) the events of 9/11 for over 10 years (LMAO, you don’t even know how to quote people correctly).

          If you can’t see the difference between a CONTROLLED DEMOLITION and the “natural” collapse of a building, maybe you should CONSIDER studying for becoming a structural engineer.

          At least, it won’t take you 10 years to find out about the “truth”… if you could only finish those studies (no “cum laude” required).

          BTW, same thing goes for Gage et al so don’t take it personally 🙂

          • You’re classic. “No other building like it in the world”.
            Maybe there was not any steel in B7?
            Still waiting for one example.
            One pillar – but it remains in symmetry during collapse.
            And every single person is different too. With our specific DNA.
            Cut off one finger and your body will instantaneously bleed? No.
            Wait for the next article.

  5. And Johnyboy – you should do better than cite this Vandoeuvre-les-Nancy in France building – that has been specially prepared by experts for collapse/demo. they probably have spent weeks weakening the building with all the demo gadgets, wire cutters and scoring gizmos. And they demo many reinforced concrete buildings….

    https://daliamaelachlan.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/1.png

    https://daliamaelachlan.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/untitled-stitched-01.jpg

    By the way – still waiting for a similar B7 example –

    and still waiting for an example where a collapse that has a massive sideways explosion of debri and steel.

    Oh and cite any example where people inside a collapsed building (like an earthquake) were pulverized into 1000’s of pieces.

    Running out of options boys

    • These poor fellows have probably never squashed a fed mosqito on an arm, nor seen a pressed flower in a bible. Yep that is the result of a ‘pancake’ collapse as with an earthquake without explosives scattering the building contents.
      D. Give them a miss, observable consequences and scientific analysis trumps idiotheories of the official BS line and attempts to cover for mass murderers.
      They have an agenda to protect mass murderers for reasons known to them.
      Leave them be to go and pretend otherwise.

      • Same way you have no problem callIng someone a mass murderer without any proof.

        Besides that you claim that 10’s of thousands of people are guilty of hiding the truth. Like all the People who worked on nist reports. Fbi agents who worked on penttbom investigation. Corroners who handled dna samples. But what the fuck do you care right? As long as you can spout your idiocy on a blog it’s all fine by you. And Dalia can Dell her shit to Kids.

        You two are the most hypocritical people i have ever met online.

        • Your hissy fit demonstrates that you are all hiss.
          Who have I called a mass murderer?
          Where the hiss do the tens of thousands come from?
          Time to go over to the hissing pit and hiss till you and your colleagues are all hissed out until the trials of all the hissing snakes.
          Then we cannot wait to hear the hissing pleas…… We were all hissed over by the giant hissing snake and we were so hissed we were frightened of the hissing snake’s fangs who hissed all over us, so we had to have a hissy fit.
          (:-(——- hissssss!
          Been fun: hsssssss.

          • Hmmm lets see. You are the idiot who believes in an inside job. You believe that nist did not investigate properly. You believe the FBI did not research properly. So in short you accuse them of helping to hide the truth, which is the killing of almost 3000 people. So yes, You are the idiot who accuses them of mass murder. Maybe not personnaly but accomplise to the crime.

            And what hissyfit are you talking about? You really think I give a shit what some lowlife idiot tells me? You are nothing more than pixels on my screen to me.

  6. Agree Ned… The blabbering must end.

    “Plaudite, amici, comedia finita est”
    ― Ludwig van Beethoven

    You have 3 more comments each. Make them worthy – then this show heads out of town.

  7. Heres a plan for you dalia. Make sure that well informed people like us can’t respond anymore, by closing the comments. That way you look really smart with your topics.

  8. From Ron brookman, Sr Structural Engineer, A$E 2010:

    “Introduction
    Many architects, engineers and others have
    never seen the rapid descent of the 47-story
    World Trade Center Building Seven (WTC
    7) into its footprint in less than seven
    seconds on the afternoon of September 11,

    Come on, less than 7 seconds?
    It took 3 times longer.

    In the late 2012 Ron confirmed my problems with the connections to the core and the core itself, but the nice Mr. Gage dous not feel the need to awaken your kids about that issue.

    So have fun with your ignorance.

      • What do you and me really know and understand about nuclear weapons, Star Trak weapons, or altered themite?
        Nothing dear.
        What I do understand is 40 years of engineering, so I stick to that, because to me that is the most plausible.

        • Great – you stick to your 40 years of engineering. The person who I will be interviewing has about the same. And you two probably concur that B7 is the only event ever for a skyscraper to just come down. If you start with multiple and constant commenting in one linerds to clog the already clogged thread – I will start multiple trashing.

        • First U say this:
          “El Kammo – you’ll have to wait a week or two. But I will be interviewing the expert that was part of the expert team that formed the theory your view is based on. I was most enlightened. So watch this space.

          And then U say this:
          “I will start multiple trashing.”

          Make up your mind

          I refer to Johnnyboy, who advised U to trash all negatives to make U look smarter.

  12. You know, since this is the worst blog that I’ve ever encountered (in the meaning that you’re obliged to read every single post over and over again to see what’s new), one should think that the readers of this website begin to understand what we’re telling them.

    And yet, it’s not the case…

    Shall we discuss about “cognitive dissonance” first or do you really want to talk about 9/11 ? I suggest that you do your homework first (another 10 years might be useful to you because you’re still stuck in the “Loose Change & Archtitects and Engineers Century”).

    Up until now, I haven’t seen any evidence coming from your side (nor from the side of A&E).

    Please explain this one simple thing to me (just one question… I know that you have more questions. than I have.. but that’s just because you haven’t really examined 9/11 in the way I did… So I guess I can’t blame you for that).

    Ok, here’s my question :

    Your friend Richard Gage claims on his website that he has “EXPLOSIVE EVIDENCE”.

    Right ? I guess so because you can’t miss that when you visit his website.

    EVIDENCE implies that you know ALL the facts and that you know who is responsible.

    Yet, A&E states in its FAQ that they don’t even know THAT.

    FAQ #1 (right from the A&E website)
    “Who demolished the Twin Towers and Building 7 and why?
    We do not know who the perpetrators of this crime are.”

    Isn’t that funny ?

    Don’t blame me, blame Richard Gage !

    • XingFu—this is not the A&E site. Don’t get confused. Maybe you should put your credentials on the table like those many many architects and engineers who spoke up in “experts speak out”.
      You are plainly creating disinfo – as you should be well aware that without the judicial powers to subpoena witnesses – how would one detail the factual evidence and whodunnit. And I believe that is what many of these organisations like ae911truth etc are asking – AN INVESTIGATION – As it is clear that something else brought the buildings down.
      If you think this is the worst blog – MOVE ALONG TO ANOTHER ONE.

      • There was an investigation by NIST and it’s subcontractors. So 1000’s of people worked on the reports. For some reason you don’t mind accusing all those people for aiding in one of the worst crimes ever. And don’t come with the same standard reply as most truthers do, telling debunkers that the higher ups in the investigation were the only ones that had knowledge of the inside job.

        And architects only design the buildings. It’s structural engineers who have to calculate if its possible to build.

        There are also tons of electrical and naval engineers listed at A&E. Maybe you could explain to me what there expertise has to do with high rise design and construction?

        And who do you want to do this new investigation?

        • Ned – yes they are at it again. STRANGE.

          Johnyboy What about an honest explanation about building 7. The models show truss at p79 breaks away…. then the building (in NISTS model) PROGRESSIVELY pulls other pillars away and down. But when you watch the video. Apart from a few windows cracking vertically – but the whole building from pillar 1 – 48 – 15 – 28 ALL COME DOWN AT EXACTLY THE SAME TIME. Symmetrically. If there was the slightest hiccup; a building twist; an odd collapse; a distorted collapse starting near p79; part of the building stood…. ANYTHING – ANYTHING RANDOM I would have never started this 9/11 journey.

          If someone had said – ‘you know the building was a CIA building so it had been pre-planted with explosives in case of war’ I would believe that first.

          It should be a simple engineering explanation. Maybe XingFu could help.

          • Do you know why column 79 could not handle the load anymore? Or did you read over that part in the report?

        • D,
          Why is it that any movement designed to properly investigate mass murders on 911 is foiled and treated with delight by many who should not care less about those who question the circumstances. Whose interests are they serving?
          Weird! And they spend such time and effort on ‘the worst blog’.
          Bloody weird.

          • Why is it that a bunch of conspiracy nuts are asking for an investigation, when there was already in investigation spanning many years by 1000’s of experts.

            Weird huh?

          • Johnny,
            Answer the question I put to D if you have one.
            In answer to yours: simple,we want more matters explained. About 3,000 people were murdered and many more are sick and dying due to the affects.
            Now that is not weird.

          • Because the FBI did an extensie research also, where half the FBI forse, so 1000’s of people worked on penttbom.

            But they must be in on the plot also….

          • Ned, Johnyboy refuses to answer why he is so adamantly against any little peek and questioning.
            But as the official theory unravels the panic to not have a proper transparent look-see intensifies.

            Why not answer these then Jonyboy:
            What did Larry Silverstein mean by “pull” ?
            Why did Bush and Rice both say “We could never image planes flying into buildings” when they were war gaming that very morning – practicing exactly that?

          • Larry was talking to the firedepartment. So ask them whet they mean with pull.

            There were no wargames going on which involved terrorists flying planes in a building.

          • D,
            Have been suspecting JB an El whoever for awhile.
            Clever Dick, the AE people have put them forward as straw men to make the anti-truthers look stupid.
            Whilst I appreciate that such modus is within the professor Cass Sunstein dictates to infiltrate 911 truthers with govwrwnt BS , I not approving of such manipulation.
            I sincerely trust that I am wrong, as I have spent days with Richard and would find it unbelievable that he would be part of sich a scheme.
            Then again, we have operations like; Gladio, Lavon. Tonkin, Nprthwoods proposed, the USS liberty as explained by Malcolm Fraser (ex PM)
            So who are these chaps making the official nutter conspiracy theory appear kosher?
            Well, congrats chaps, doin good!

          • Still no reply to my question to JB.
            JB what the F do you care if there is a proper investigation.
            You being paid for your banalities?

          • There was a proper investigation you tool. Just because you don’t like the out come doesnt mean it was proper.

            And I asked several times who do you want to do the investigation?

            And what do i care if you want a new investigation. I am sure you wont look into that investigation also, just as you spent zero time looking into the previous investigation.

          • Yep—you are seriously troubled by the fact that people are questioning.
            Let me direct you to one person that wants an investigation. His brother was killed in the north tower.
            And this is what he thought of the report.

          • JB,
            Do your own research into the exercise being done on 911, we are not your mum’s teat,
            As for who will do the proper investigation? Try the American people, if you have not noticed that it has been underway for some years and they are nearly there.
            Hope you are not standing in the way as the pitchforks approach. Best of luck, the aiders and abettors will be next Ito experience the thrusting,
            Sleep tight, good night.

          • Lol. The american people already did the research. You know. The FBI. Nist and his subcontractors. So you want them to redo the investigation. That makes sense.

          • Certainly makes sense. As was the Warren Commission report dispensed with when a Congress report determined that at least Oswald did not
            act alone, indeed from memory, they may have determined that he had nothing to do with the murder of Kennedy.
            Strange how what was once determined by people like the FBI is later found to be BS, as will the criminal investigation of 011 will be found as BS.
            Bit different now, the te scale is reduced and the aiders and abettors to the conspiracy coverup will still be around as the pitchforks approach.
            Like your work?

          • Lol Dalia claims there was a wargame with terrorists flying planes into buildings. So why not back-up that claim. I know She can’t but i want to see her squirm for a while.

          • Squirm? You JB have proved you almost know nothing by your ignorance of the war games planned that morning and before.
            You are probably ignorant of the drill matching the exact scenario of the London bombings. It was aired over the radio by Power who was running the drill.

            So off you go. And research. You have proved yourself ignorant and a patsy to the crimes. And Ned is right. History has exposed countless lies. And this is another.

            It is near midnight in Australia so I will be fast asleep while you investigate. And I know it was exposed on mainstream television on around 2003 when someone accidentally let it slip.

            As we see you are digging yourself into a deeper and deeper hole.

            And I wonder what you have to say about Matt Campbell whose brother was killed. I suppose you call him a nutter too?

            As I said MOVE ALONG

          • So. You can’t find the drill. Else you would have provided a link. And Power was indeed having a drill in an office for a few managers from a big company. But that was a paper drill.

          • D, the reference by JB to have you ‘squirm is something that stood out to me. It certainly indicates that
            You are dealing with a psycho’ or at least, an uncivilised ill bred person.
            Best to be rid of him/her. The signs are there, after over 40 years in my profession, their true nature is recognisable by the small signs.
            He/she is being tested to his/ her limit.

          • Lol. So you are a shrink in need of a shrink.

            The only psychos are you guys, accusing 1000’s of people complicit to murder and with holding evidence in a crime.

          • at least five if not six training exercises were in operation in the days before and also on 9/11. NORAD radar screens showed as many a dozen hijacked airliners at the same time. exercise drills forestalled and delayed. But do you honestly think that such damming evidence will be left in detail up on wiki…. By the way I’m not doing your research for you. Do it yourself

            And you never answered my Q about Matt Campbell who is seeking justice for his brother.

            Move along JB or give us a B7 example or answer Ned’s questions. But Ned is right…. JB you are programmed to waste time. End transmission.

          • ROFLCopter!

            There was no exercise going on that involved terrorist hijacking planes, and them ramming them into buildings.

            So I don’t have to look it up, because it never happened. Only in your mind did it happen.

          • The sad thing is, that you wont admit that there was no exercise going on, that involved terrorists taking over planes and using them as weapons. Instead you claim it is so hush hush, that it isnt mentioned anywhere. But for some reason, you seem to know all about it. Were you involved in this exercise?

          • Ow, and about Matt Campbell. I feel sorry for the guy. Specially since he was brainwashed by the morons from AE911. I am even disgussed by it tbh.

            ADDITION EDITED IN BY MODERATOR: AS THE COORDINATOR OF THIS SITE I AM BANNING ANY MORE COMMENTS FROM JOHNYBOY ON THIS THREAD. He has stepped over the line here. He knows nothing about Campbell and has mad an abusive and cruel assumption.

          • I am leaving this up then trashing it. Shame on you. He was not influenced by anyone but his own research and definitely not persuaded by ae. He did his own research. JB – you have become abusive – making assumptions about those people directly effected. Does it bother you that companies made a trillion dollars out of the war.

            JOHNYBOY – YOU HAVE STEPPED OVER THE LINE AND IM AM GOING TO TRASH YOU FROM THIS SITE. And I have seriously had enough of your twisted BS. You know nothing about Matt Campbell and have made completely false assumptions.
            GOOD BYE JB

          • @Dalia,

            Never, ever, ever try to make a point based upon victims.
            I never, ever, ever react on the crash of MH17.
            I am Dutch.
            You do not know how this affects me personally.
            Never, ever, ever, use the dead as an argument for your personal use, same goes for @Ned
            I know about your weird theories of MH17
            Understand that houses in the Neherlands or empty due to the lack of returning Dutch families, damned.
            Same goes for 911

          • Give me a break El Kammo. The west went to war and killed a million people based on the point of victims of 911. What a stupid stupid statement for you make.

            The entire inquiry into child abuse in Australia (for example) is based on the POINT OF VIEW OF THE VICTIM. So no media outlet should comment based on your premise? RIDICULOUS.

            And you want the people to just accept whatever is told to them. And continue with pedophilia? With regard to Australia – and to MH17 – let the investigation unfold before one accuses another President of Murder. No I don’t know how it effects you personally. But You have no idea how all this effects me personally and where I am coming from. Your statement is a complete nonsense. You can’t come back with the facts, so you come back as if I am attacking you personally – and Johnyboy starts attacking a victim family member.

            The entire media is based on information. It just happens that governments sometimes don’t like the truth, so media have to try find that and report that.

            As I said to you three before why don’t you MOVE ALONG

          • @Dalia,
            I think I have not expressed my statement well enough in my recent comment, sorry for that.
            May I explain further?
            First MH17, (knowing that this blog is not the proper place)
            The Dutch are the prime investigators, and therefore very carefully in announcing statements. The internet and newspapers cannot wait for the results and come up with various theories of their own.
            On this one I say just wait. (meaning sanctioning Russia as well)
            Then 911:
            Those who believe in controlled demolitions (Star Trek weapons, Nuclear weapons, classic explosives, thermite of any kind, missiles, no plaines etc.) should not say that they owe a new investigation to the dead, they owe it to themselves.
            They should base their request on anomalies of their own.
            Hope this explains my previous comment.

          • Dentists may be good, don’t know how many George Washington called upon or how many stormed the Bastille or how any stood at Thermopylae, but all hands may be useful when hanging criminals and their apologists, even bastard drilling dentists pestering their share broker whilst drilling away with inane comments and idling the nurse, bit like blog trolls I suspect.

          • Lol. So you really want a dentist to Carry out an investigation on how the buildings collapsed… Good luck with your car…

          • If we are “conspiracy nuts” – then you are the opposite – “NIST-theory believers”

            Amount of money allocated
            1986 Challenger disaster investigation: $75 million. Monica saga 40. NIST – what was it $16M ??? The commission 14?

            1000’s of experts?

            Remaining strictly within the confines of the officially prescribed theory, NIST crafts an explanation for the “initiation of the collapse of each Tower”. Oh Don’t forget to sing your anthem.

          • So we are both believers – therefore both nutters.
            1000’s of experts.
            What kind of experts. I know at least 500 of them are experts in BS
            The Murdoch press are experts at printing papers – but it has no relevance to the truth whatsoever.
            And that has been proven time and time again.

          • Learn to read. I never said i was a believer. I said i would rather be called a believer than a nut. Big difference.

            Yes 1000’s of experts working for nist and it’s subcontractors. So not the “experts” from A&E.

          • Read about the backfire effect.
            The more two people argue like this – the more they believe in their belief system.
            We are wasting each other’s time.

          • Awesome. I couldn’t find anything that explained why massive slabs were thrust laterally for hundreds of feet from both towers.
            If you remove all your bias and just look at the video and photos your are looking at something impossible.
            The same people might have produced the same result with a trillion hours. They had to prove the theory.

            I have only BECOME TO DISTRUST EVERYTHING official because ‘they’ have propagated so many lies in the past.
            And that is FACT

          • Yes the goverment has lied in the past. But this was done by 1000’s of researchers from nist and sub contractors. There were also 1000’s of fbi agents who worked on this case. But According to you they all keep the conspiracy quiet.

  14. Dalia,

    Are you still nagging about another example of the collapse of a building similar to WTC7.

    Could you give us at least the name of one or more buildings that would convince you if it were to collapse due to fire.

    It seems important to me that YOU make THAT call first. So please make my day and come up with a list of, let’s say, 10 or 20 skycrapers that are comparable to WTC 7 (in your opinion).

    Of course, this is not a guarantee that one of the buildings on your list could or will collapse due to fire but at least we’ll know on which buildings we should keep an eye on 🙂

    P.S. : you do know (I hope) that engineers try to prevent buildings from falling down due to fire (that’s why they use sprinklers, SFRM coating, etc.).

    P.P.S. : or you might consider to rebuild WTC 7 at your own expenses and put on a fire. You could save out on the sprinkler system because that wasn’t working on 9/11 🙂

  15. D,
    Further toy observation of JB and his reply re the dentist.
    His/her return comment demonstrates that he/she is no cognisant with the tenor of the communications and that is demonstrating a lack of social interaction. I commend no further interaction with that person.

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